Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I don't recall any of this following the election of Obama, by the conservatives in this country.

Then you weren't paying attention.

And for the record, how many arrests, nationwide, during the protests by millions, the day after the election? If you think those anarchists were Bernie or Hillary, or even loyal democrats, then you are certainly not very well informed.

ray wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I don't recall any of this following the election of Obama, by the conservatives in this country.

Then you weren't paying attention.

And for the record, how many arrests, nationwide, during the protests by millions, the day after the election? If you think those anarchists were Bernie or Hillary, or even loyal democrats, then you are certainly not very well informed.

.....says the guy that's 100% informed from mainstream left-wing "news" outlets.

Classic.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

1. Look up the word exponential. You don't mean exponential.

2. The size of the federal workforce fell over Obama's admin.

But I'll agree we need less federal government and less regulation.

I know what it means. And whether it fell or not, that's not the point. Its bloated, welfare programs are out of control and it needs pared down considerably.

it's always "welfare" that you right wingers cite. And never subsidies to farms, never waste at the pentagon, never tax breaks for rich people, never corporate tax loopholes.

it's interesting what is important to you - keeping poor people from getting free stuff. Just saying. It's a weird and unchristian point of view.

eric a blair wrote:

it's always "welfare" that you right wingers cite. And never subsidies to farms, never waste at the pentagon, never tax breaks for rich people, never corporate tax loopholes.

it's interesting what is important to you - keeping poor people from getting free stuff. Just saying. It's a weird and unchristian point of view.

What they consider "welfare" is also a moving target.

Millions of Trump voters are against welfare but themselves live off of Social Security disability....apparently they see no issue with this.

Overlay a map of SSDI recipients with Trump voters and you find a remarkable overlap -- red state voters, particularly in middle America, are also heavily reliant on SSDI. Blue states? Not as much.

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Trumpettes are NOT Americans.

meatloafer wrote:

ray wrote:

Then you weren't paying attention.

And for the record, how many arrests, nationwide, during the protests by millions, the day after the election? If you think those anarchists were Bernie or Hillary, or even loyal democrats, then you are certainly not very well informed.

.....says the guy that's 100% informed from mainstream left-wing "news" outlets.

Classic.

Good job! Don't cite facts or make arguments. That's too much work. Instead, just make claims about how another poster gets his/her information. Oh wait, it gets better. Don't even bother with whether or not your irrelevant claim is true. Just make it up. That's how things are done nowadays.

Classic.

Noted recently on an outside billboard at a bar.

"Hey John Hinkley I heard Trump is banging Jodie Foster"

Oh please.. wrote:

eric a blair wrote:

it's always "welfare" that you right wingers cite. And never subsidies to farms, never waste at the pentagon, never tax breaks for rich people, never corporate tax loopholes.

it's interesting what is important to you - keeping poor people from getting free stuff. Just saying. It's a weird and unchristian point of view.

What they consider "welfare" is also a moving target.

Millions of Trump voters are against welfare but themselves live off of Social Security disability....apparently they see no issue with this.

Overlay a map of SSDI recipients with Trump voters and you find a remarkable overlap -- red state voters, particularly in middle America, are also heavily reliant on SSDI. Blue states? Not as much.

http://www.dailyyonder.com/files/images/DisabilityMap.jpg

Pssst- psssst- You see all those green suburban areas across the country? Yeah, the largest percentage of voters? (Suburbs represent 50%, urban areas represent 34%, and rural areas represent just 16% of voters.) Yeah?.....

Trump won those areas 50-45%.

Say it with me, "Donald J Trump won the suburban areas of the US 50-45% in the 2016 presidential election."

You just keep ragging on those 16% of voters though- it really matters!

Pleasing dude wrote:

Pssst- psssst- You see all those green suburban areas across the country? Yeah, the largest percentage of voters? (Suburbs represent 50%, urban areas represent 34%, and rural areas represent just 16% of voters.) Yeah?.....

Trump won those areas 50-45%.

Say it with me, "Donald J Trump won the suburban areas of the US 50-45% in the 2016 presidential election."

You just keep ragging on those 16% of voters though- it really matters!

Who cares? We're talking about the low-income SSDI/welfare voters who voted for an anti-welfare guy and who will scream and howl if they lose their benefits, even though they want everyone else to lose theirs...

You seem to be talking about something else.

oh hey look, the trumps are getting a $400 million bribe from the chinese.

ho hum

nothing to see, move on.

oh wait, you're telling me that emoluments are forbidden by the constitution, really? But trump campaigned AGAINST the constitution, so it's fine. He's in charge now. So it's fine.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-13/kushners-set-to-get-400-million-from-chinese-on-marquee-tower

This is hilarious. Everyone says the same thing, but while the US population has risen over the last several presidential terms, the size of the Gov has actually shrunken. It's a big complex nation, you need Gov and regs. The Gov't is not truly stifling growth, many regs promote business. For example, Regs on pollution have spurred green energy growth, advances in auto emissions etc.

The Gov't being too large and over reaching is a phony construct in 99% of cases. The Fed Gov could be more efficient, but that's not necessarily achieved by reducing size.

while it is a well kept secret that the number of gummint employees has indeed fallen under obama...it's wrong to say that the reach of the gummint has fallen.

regulations have piled up in nonsensical ways, the tax code is absurdly complicated and unfair, and new constructs like the TSA now exist.

seriously. Even dems in congress understand that federal regulations have gone way too far and that the tax code needs an overhaul.

you can be anti-trump and still agree with the above.

Federal regulations have gone "way too far"? Which ones are you referring to?

The tax code may be too complex but not overreaching. The current tax code was a bipartisan creation.

The TSA exists. So what, the TSA needs to exits for a purpose, what are you saying? Maybe we should try having no AP security? Maybe privatize it? It

the point about the TSA is that it is a major example of the new larger reach of the federal government

here's a nice piece from the always fair Economist on the problems of american over-regulation. Seriously - don't feel like you are a trumper if you think regulations have been too heavy.

sorry - that was the wrong link. This one is much better and more recent. it's a serious problem.

eric a blair wrote:

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21717838-republicans-and-democrats-have-been-equally-culpable-adding-rulebook-too-much

sorry - that was the wrong link. This one is much better and more recent. it's a serious problem.

I agree with you that the feds have put in place way too much regulation in some areas.

In my own business (I run a small software company) I have been greatly hampered by:

1) Inability to hire qualified employees because the government makes it too hard to bring in qualified applicants from overseas. And overseas is where all the top talent in my high tech area are. This type of immigration restriction is just crazy. Let them in!!! It's a win-win many times over. They get to work and live where they want, an American business gets to grow, and America adds highly talented, highly educated, big-time winners from overseas.

2) Inability to manage cash in a way that makes the most sense for my business. Obscure tax rule (that I just found out about the hard way), the feds think that any company retaining earnings over $250,000 (peanuts) is likely a tax avoidance ploy. Burden is on the company to prove that they really need that much "excessive" cash for future business needs. Otherwise the feds throw an additional 20% tax on top of regular tax on earnings. This is beyond crazy - get the hell out of trying to tell me how to manage my company cash flow.

- End of rant

it's a state regulation so a bit different, but in NY every newly formed LLC has to publish in two newspapers the birth of the LLC. Can't be online. Cost me over $1000. Pure sop to the newspaper biz.