why does David Roche keep banging on about being in sub-4 at altitude shape?

DylanG wrote:

Csfgh wrote:

I remember a few years back when Walmsley was getting crushed on this board. Now he’s an ultra legend. Having a big circle jerk hate fest about you on this board is like a right of passage for people who actually do something interesting or noteworthy.

For context: many, myself included, interpreted Jim’s confidence as arrogance. Like who is this new kid who is calling his shot and dominating the race scene? But then we watched as Jim backed up all of the talk. And as we learned more about him we came to know him as this incredibly talented, socially awkward and somewhat shy individual who isn’t incredibly comfortable in front of the camera.

I mean look at any film or short featuring Jim. These aren’t pieces he’s putting out himself. As far as I know the guy even gave control of his social media accounts to a third party because he’s just not into or great at that kind of stuff.

Contrast that with David who can’t be on camera enough or can’t appear on enough podcasts promoting himself. Everything about David screams “look at me!”

DylanG wrote:

Csfgh wrote:

I remember a few years back when Walmsley was getting crushed on this board. Now he’s an ultra legend. Having a big circle jerk hate fest about you on this board is like a right of passage for people who actually do something interesting or noteworthy.

For context: many, myself included, interpreted Jim’s confidence as arrogance. Like who is this new kid who is calling his shot and dominating the race scene? But then we watched as Jim backed up all of the talk. And as we learned more about him we came to know him as this incredibly talented, socially awkward and somewhat shy individual who isn’t incredibly comfortable in front of the camera.

I mean look at any film or short featuring Jim. These aren’t pieces he’s putting out himself. As far as I know the guy even gave control of his social media accounts to a third party because he’s just not into or great at that kind of stuff.

Contrast that with David who can’t be on camera enough or can’t appear on enough podcasts promoting himself. Everything about David screams “look at me!”

Huzzeugh wrote:

Has anyone listening to their podcast noticed how they keep defending doping offenders when the news come out? I mean.. who am I to say that some of the excuses used are valid or not (they talked about triathlete Imogen Symmonds who was tested and they found traces of an illegal substance that apparently her partner used and her argument was they had sex and that's how traces got into her body etc episode 249 around 1:20 mark.. previously they also defended trail runner Stian Angermund whose story is a wild one I will say..and Shelby Houlihan ).

Last time they were like we should give everyone who tested positive the benefit of the doubt and there's probably less doping going on than we think (which made my eyes roll) and this time David mentioned being paranoid cos their son uses a steroid cream and won't touch it and google everything Megan uses. Oh well. As if trail runners even get tested out of competition (sometimes not even after a competition). I would not be surprised if David tried out some 'substances' himself out of competition and by giving grace to every doping offender it feels like he's downplaying the issue. Just some thoughts as I woke up from my nap (yeah I nap to SWAP podcast do with that info what you will baha you're welcome for my clicks, David).

Runforthehillz wrote:

impossible wrote:

There's really not much in-competition testing in the ultra world. Please correct me and the thread here if I'm wrong, but I don't think WS tests anymore (used to test top 10 or 20, still claims to reserve the right to test, but do they?). Not sure of any other US competitive race that tests. I believe UTMB still tests top 20 men and women, and did pop an amateur a few years back. Would also be interesting if David was tested at WS and Meghan handled the sample as the "medical" director or whatever her title is.

The doping thing is interesting. Not because I think he can’t perform at the level he is (elite) but because of the extent that he will do absolutely anything and everything to gain an advantage. He is basically trying to biohack running, and why wouldn’t he go all the way if he had a minimal chance of being caught?