pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Deutsche Bank now giving financial info on Trump after being subpoenaed.
Trump is so stupid, I honestly believe he's not aware he was recruited years ago and has some plausible excuse due to his very bigly idiocy.
Record shattering stupidity and incompetence. He likes setting records, so there's TWO for him.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Deutsche Bank now giving financial info on Trump after being subpoenaed.
Trump said that was a red line. Oh No! What will Trump do?
He is so screwed.
Trump is done.
Today’s target is Deutsche Bank. Next week it’ll be every person who has ever stayed at a Trump Hotel. The week after that will be everyone who has ever watched an episode of the Apprentice. Finally, Mueller will be looking into a tape Trump returned to Blockbuster in 1992 without rewinding. This is all because Trump’s Russia collusion does not exist.
M.A.G.A!!!
You're underestimating Mueller and the extent of his investigation. It's YUGE. And you're incredibly naive if you think the Deutsche Bank subpoena is insignificant.
Mueller and Comey will go down as patriots. Historically they will be revered.
Country over party.
Rainmanator wrote:
It's amazing Trollminator that you are a follower who supported Obama and the Clintons, the Kings and Queen of corruption, but are too ignorant to do any unbiased research.
Keep your rose colored glasses on little fella, they suit your intellectual ability perfectly.
Clinton would have been a disaster but your rose colored glasses can't see the trees for the forrest.
Please, sit on the sidelines and be quiet, you have no way of understanding politics on your best day.
Yes, Trump is going to work out fine and you'll complain and get what, your Mom to come on her and agree with you?
"Trump is going to work out fine " --- mind elaborating - again for our entertainment?
Rainmanator wrote:
Did you like that trees for the forrest? It's confuse you and your hypocritical left friends. Keep trying and maybe you'll see Obama's failures and lies were worse than your rose colored glasses will let you see.
Again with the fixation on Obama...
Milka What? wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Unless there is irrefutable evidence to impeach him, you are right he will get away with anything. It goes back to the standard that was set for a President when he was elected. As long as he keeps doing the horrible job he was elected to do he'll be fine. Besides, we all know how these things go, there is always dirt on everyone so ultimately if there is something rotten enough to get him impeached there will be some clemency to keep the order - most likely in the form of him going quietly in exchange for others' heads.
Impeach him? You're a peabrain! He's not getting impeached, that's nonsense! Wait till the indictments come on your side. Did you notice something different about Hillary and Chelsea (look at their boots). Gosh you are one ignorant poster.
Did you see what Obama got away with. Why wasn't he impeached? Reverse Racism, keep the people calm.
Entertain us - on what grounds would Obama have been impeached? Cleanest President on paper, but sure go ahead and dispute that.
This isn't it wrote:
No, they gave Barrack Obama a free pass. He was a scum liar, but because he was black...free ride!
Ohhh of course, because he was black everyone just turned a blind eye to all his criminal activity. Are we also doing that to Trump because he's a minority (mentally disabled)?
The GOP tried for eight years to find a way to impeach Trump. Couldn't do it.
Also, Obama's "failures." Hmmm...I wonder if there was any blanket GOP opposition in Congress no matter what the initiative?
eric a blair wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
This is it
yeah - to have a black successful president and fat white disaster - that's got to hurt these guys
Hold on - you forgot the fact that Obama is a chess player and Trump can barely play marbles... the white guy with an extremely low IQ
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
L L wrote:
Key elements in play for impeachment:
Things Trump did as a candidate
Things Trump did during transition
Things Trump did as Presdient
During the election there certainly was interference with Russia in the from of fake news planted in social media.
A lot of it was anti-Hillary like the sex slave in basement of the DC pizza parlor.
There is a theory that Trump campaign officials were working with Russian officials to get any dirt, true or false, on Hillary that could be passed on to Americans through social media. The thought is that Trump either directed this or more likely was aware of it and approved it.
This would be conspiring with a foreign entity to influence an American election.
After the election and before inauguration, Michael Flynn spoke with a Russian official assuring that Trump would ease sanctions put on Russia by Obama after the election.
He has plead guilty to the FBI saying that he lied to them about these discussions and that he was directed to do this by a senior member of the Trump transition team.
If Trump directed this or approved of this it would be a violation of the Logan Act (one president at a time with authority to negotiate with foreign governments).
After inauguration, Trump appointed Flynn National Security Advisor after Obama warned Trump not to hire him because of his Russian ties.
Then Attorney General Sally Yates informed Trump of Flynn's transition discussions with Russia.
Flynn lied to Mike Pence, saying that he had no contact with Russians.
Now we know Flynn also lied to the FBI about this.
And we also know that Trump was aware that Flynn lied to the FBI about this.
Trump subsequently fired Yates and appointed Jeff Sessions who subsequently recused himself from any Russian investigations related to the campaign which he was a surrogate for Trump.
Trump asked FBI director James Comey to back off of the Flynn investigation.
Comey stayed true to his duties and then Trump fired Comey.
As President, Trump is exposed to obstruction of justice.
Trump can be impeached for three offenses:
Conspiracy with foreign entity during the campaign.
Violating the Logan Act during the transition
Obstruction of Justice as President.
The Republican controlled House of Representatives would have to initiate the proceedings.
Then a trial by the Senate would require 67 Senators to vote for conviction which would remove Trump as president and elevate Pence to President assuming Pence isn't tied with those accusations.
Otherwise it could fall to the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan or whoever the Dems assign of the trial goes into 2019 and the Democrats control the House at that point.
Paul Manafort's efforts during the campaign and subsequent indictment and whatever he says to make a deal could prove the conspiracy or "collusion" side.
But the acts to try and cover that up even if that is not proven could be enough for the other two charges to lead to impeachment.
If Democrats win the House majority in next year's elections there will definitely be impeachment proceedings.
I don't know if the senate would convict but Republicans may want to impeach before Democrats get control so they could assign the Speaker as president if necessary.
You're all delusional. Nothing is going to happen, so get over it. HRC lost.
It may not have reached Trump yet, but it's already happening, crawl out from underneath your rock and look it up.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
This has nothing to do with HRC. Not sure which route it will take (resignation, impeachment, 25th Amendment), but Trump will not be president in 2020. As the investigation continues to unfold and more indictments are handed down, Republicans won't have a choice.
Using Dershowitz to make a point in support of Trump is hilarious. Google Trump, Epstein, Dershowitz, Clinton.
Country over party.
As far as I'm aware there are no indictments that suggest Russian collusion. Even Flynn didn't get hit for conspiracy. Wasn't 'Russian collusion" what everyone was counting on?? Also, I just provided the post, Dershowitz is the one that said what he said . And of course this about HRC, due to the fact that she lost, and dems can't get over it. That's the entire point of all of this.
Dershowitz was an accomplished lawyer and is now a tv personality. You relying on his statements on TV news as the supreme interpretation of constitutional law reveals how smart you are.
jamin wrote:
L L wrote:
Key elements in play for impeachment:
Things Trump did as a candidate
Things Trump did during transition
Things Trump did as Presdient
During the election there certainly was interference with Russia in the from of fake news planted in social media.
A lot of it was anti-Hillary like the sex slave in basement of the DC pizza parlor.
There is a theory that Trump campaign officials were working with Russian officials to get any dirt, true or false, on Hillary that could be passed on to Americans through social media. The thought is that Trump either directed this or more likely was aware of it and approved it.
This would be conspiring with a foreign entity to influence an American election.
Where is there a law that says anything about "influence"? What does that even mean?
The Russians sold the Hillary campaign the dossier on Trump. That's an undisputed fact. Isn't that fundamentally the same thing as what you're alleging about the Trump campaign?
By the way, why would the Trump campaign need the Russians to do their social media work for them? That part of the theory has never made any sense.
It's very telling that you can't make sense of why Trump would look to the Russians for help with his social media disinformation campaign. Let me help you out... Trump's team doing the dirty work would look very criminal compared to the Russians (seemingly independent) doing it. Still confused?
Trump_wins wrote:
nontrumper wrote:
Mueller is playing 3-D chess, Trump and company are playing checkers.
Country over party.
You are sadly mistaken
Trump is a Billionaire
Right now, he probably has the best 10 Harvard trained lawyers advising him on non-issues. That is because all the important stuff was taken care of this morning at 6:30 AM.
You don't know your man if you really believe that. It's a fact that he doesn't run even the most important decisions by anyone. It's a fact he needs visuals in flash presentations to retain any bit of new information. It's a fact he should be an expert twitter user by now but still can't perform simple functions and often uses incorrect grammar. You are hypnotized by his wealth, and for some reason refuse to believe he's a trust fund baby.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Deutsche Bank now giving financial info on Trump after being subpoenaed.
Trump is so stupid, I honestly believe he's not aware he was recruited years ago and has some plausible excuse due to his very bigly idiocy.
Yes - and that is why incompetence has already been brought up as a reason for impeachment.
Dershowitz is one of the most accomplished legal minds of all time and a Hillary donor, so he is credible. Drumpf is never gonna be impeached Flagbro.
Rigged for Trump wrote:
The GOP tried for eight years to find a way to impeach Trump. Couldn't do it.
Also, Obama's "failures." Hmmm...I wonder if there was any blanket GOP opposition in Congress no matter what the initiative?
Obama had everything thrown at him and nothing... he was an even better man that I thought for not spitting on their faces for it and not rubbing in his accomplishments enough.
Hardloper wrote:
Dershowitz is one of the most accomplished legal minds of all time and a Hillary donor, so he is credible. Drumpf is never gonna be impeached Flagbro.
He switched his network affiliation to FOX a long time ago, so no he isn't credible.
Trollminator wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Dershowitz is one of the most accomplished legal minds of all time and a Hillary donor, so he is credible. Drumpf is never gonna be impeached Flagbro.
He switched his network affiliation to FOX a long time ago, so no he isn't credible.
Btw - here's his own elaboration of what the right has been clinging to recently. I know you like to think in simple terms, but he spells it out pretty clearly here.
Alan Dershowitz: No no no no no. Of course the president can obstruct justice. Nixon obstructed justice. President Clinton was charged with obstructing justice. A president can’t obstruct justice by simply exercising his constitutional authority. That is: A president can’t obstruct justice by pardoning. A president can’t obstruct justice by firing somebody he’s authorized to fire. If a president bribes or takes a bribe, or if a president, as Nixon did, pays hush money, or tells his subordinates to lie to the FBI, or destroys evidence, of course he can be charged with obstruction of justice, but he can’t be charged with obstruction of justice simply by exercising his constitutional authority. That would be a clear violation of the separation of powers, to punish a president for exercising Article II authority.
Trollminator wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Dershowitz is one of the most accomplished legal minds of all time and a Hillary donor, so he is credible. Drumpf is never gonna be impeached Flagbro.
He switched his network affiliation to FOX a long time ago, so no he isn't credible.
Yep. Regular contributors on FOX News can not be trusted at all. FOX has a political agenda which is clear. Dershowitz has one issue that drives his thoughts, actions, and wishes. Really too bad.
Trump is done.
...and your point is?
And now watching Sarah Huckabee sell her soul as usual and scrambling to defend every Trump f-up. I really don't understand why she took this job, but she's not going to last given the impossible task.