anyone want to stick their neck out with a prediction?
Will betting odds move to Harris or to Trump tomorrow at 4:00 PM EST compared to 4:00PM EST today?
Meaning, who does the debate help?
Current odds are
Trump: 50.5%
Harris 47.3%
I say odds go toward trump. People want his drama and entertainment skillz, not more Dem policy and good government. If he just doesn't poop on stage he'll be the 'winner.'
obvi I was very wrong. Trump let the world know he's a crazy uncle in the comments section.
Harris gained a lot in the betting odds after the debate and is now the slight favorite.
Harris: 51%
Trump: 47.7%
what times we live in.
The fact that your emotions and well being are directly tied to political polls is hysterical.
“It wasn’t a hidden strategy. They were literally telling people, "We’re going to get under Trump’s skin." The Trump strategy was also very public — they were going to make sure they didn’t let her get under his skin. Eleven minutes in, she mentions crowd size, and he responds with Viktor Orbán, they’re eating puppies and cats, Abdul, concepts of plans... It was like diarrhea of the mouth as soon as she said "crowd size." I can’t recall another time where someone telegraphed their plan, let their opponent know about it, the opponent prepared against it, and then, within a second of launching the plan, the opponent fell for it immediately.”
Her story is laughably absurd. You assume it's true because you hate Trump yet you have no f*ckng idea what she actually said!
You're entitled to your opinion.
But nine jurors, who know the evidence better than you or I do, found in favor of Carroll. They did not think he story was "laughably absurd".
Carroll's story was corroborated by the two women who she reported the assault to shortly after it happened. Two more women testified about also being sexually assaulted by Trump. All of this is in open court, under oath. Trump couldn't be bothered to even show up for the trial, much less take the stand and deny the "laughably absurd" story under oath.
Trump got caught in a lie about Carroll not being his type. And he got caught admitting to doing exactly what he was accused of doing.
The evidence was overwhelmingly in favor of Carroll. The verdict was not surprising, especially in a civil case with a lower burden of proof.
Nine leftists in NYC are not an impartial jury.
There was NO EVIDENCE. It was he said she said and she lies about being assaulted every other day.
“It wasn’t a hidden strategy. They were literally telling people, "We’re going to get under Trump’s skin." The Trump strategy was also very public — they were going to make sure they didn’t let her get under his skin. Eleven minutes in, she mentions crowd size, and he responds with Viktor Orbán, they’re eating puppies and cats, Abdul, concepts of plans... It was like diarrhea of the mouth as soon as she said "crowd size." I can’t recall another time where someone telegraphed their plan, let their opponent know about it, the opponent prepared against it, and then, within a second of launching the plan, the opponent fell for it immediately.”
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth" - Mike Tyson
There was NO EVIDENCE. It was he said she said and she lies about being assaulted every other day.
SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCUSATIONS Kristin Anderson – Early 1990s. Anderson says she was in a Manhattan bar with friends when the person next to her reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She says she turned and recognized the person as Donald Trump. E. Jean Carroll – late 1995 or early 1996. Carroll describes running into Trump in a department store, where she says he recognized her for her widely-read advice column. Carroll says they went into a dressing room after Trump asked for her advice on a present – lingerie – for another woman. Inside, she alleges that he shoved her against a wall, "forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I'm not certain — inside me." A senior White House official issued a statement to NY Magazine calling the accusation, "a completely false and unrealistic story." Rachel Crooks – 2005. A 22-year-old receptionist at the time, Crooks said Trump gave her an unwanted kiss on the mouth after meeting him in 2005. "Jane Doe" aka "Katie Johnson" – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, Dropped after death threats. Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by "Katie Johnson" in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein's New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — "Tiffany Doe" — said she recruited "Jane Doe" and others. Doe, using the name "Johnson," g Jessica Drake – 2006. While working as an adult film actress, Drake says Trump invited her to the room where he was staying in Lake Tahoe. In the room, she says he grabbed, hugged and kissed her and two other women who accompanied her without permission. Later, she alleges that Trump called her and pressed her to return to his room, offering $10,000 at one point. Drake says she declined. Jill Harth – 1992-1993. A Florida businesswoman who partnered with Trump and later dated him. Harth alleged that he groped her under the table at dinner with her boyfriend then repeatedly got her alone, and it would turn into a "wrestling match." She sued Trump for breach of contract, sexual harassment and at one point attempted rape. She settled and then in 1998 dated Trump. Cathy Heller – 1997. At a Mother's Day brunch for Mar-A-Lago club members' families in 1997, Heller alleges that when she was introduced to Trump, he grabbed her and tried to kiss her on the lips. Heller says she leaned back to avoid him and then he kissed her on the side of her mouth. Ninni Laaksonen – 2006. Former Miss Finland. Laaksonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sonomat that Trump "squeezed her butt" as she and other pageant contestants stood next to him for a publicity photo, ahead of an appearance on The Letterman Show. Jessica Leeds – Early 1980s. Leeds says she sat next to Trump in first class on an airplane and that he kissed her, groped her chest and reached up her skirt, leading her to move back to coach. "He was like an octopus," she told The New York Times. In a NY Post report published October 14, 2016, Mindy McGillivray – Jan. 24, 2003. Working as an assistant to photographers at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, McGillivray charges that Trump nudged or grabbed her from behind. Jennifer Murphy – 2004. A former Miss USA and "The Apprentice" contestant, Grazia says that Trump kissed her on the lips after walking her to the elevators following a meeting in New York, which he said was to discuss a possible job. Cassandra Searles – 2013. Miss Washington 2013, Searles wrote on Facebook, "He probably doesn't want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room." Natasha Stoynoff – December 2005. Stoynoff was a celebrity reporter covering Trump for People Magazine. She alleges that Trump assaulted her while she was at Mar-a-Lago interviewing him and Melania Trump for a story about their one-year anniversary. She alleges Trump took her to a private room, pushed her against the wall and aggressively kissed her. Stoynoff also says a staffer told her Trump was waiting for her the next day at a massage appointment. Temple Taggart McDowell – 1997. McDowell, who was Miss Utah USA 1997, charges that Trump suddenly kissed her without her consent on two separate occasions. Karena Virginia – 1998. Virginia says that while she was waiting for a ride following the U.S Open tennis tournament, Trump walked up to her, grabbed her arm and touched her breast. Summer Zervos – 2007. A former contestant on "The Apprentice," Zervos alleges that Trump told her he wanted to discuss a possible job, but alone in a Beverly Hills Hotel bungalow, grabbed her breasts, kissed her and tried to lead her into a bedroom.
But nine jurors, who know the evidence better than you or I do, found in favor of Carroll. They did not think he story was "laughably absurd".
Carroll's story was corroborated by the two women who she reported the assault to shortly after it happened. Two more women testified about also being sexually assaulted by Trump. All of this is in open court, under oath. Trump couldn't be bothered to even show up for the trial, much less take the stand and deny the "laughably absurd" story under oath.
Trump got caught in a lie about Carroll not being his type. And he got caught admitting to doing exactly what he was accused of doing.
The evidence was overwhelmingly in favor of Carroll. The verdict was not surprising, especially in a civil case with a lower burden of proof.
Nine leftists in NYC are not an impartial jury.
There was NO EVIDENCE. It was he said she said and she lies about being assaulted every other day.
You're not getting it, and I guess you never will.
It wasn't a he said/she said. It was a she said, and two witnesses corroborated what she said, and two more witnesses said he did the same thing to them, and he never showed up to say anything.
You're assuming the jury was not impartial because you don't like the result. I've got news for you, nobody who loses a jury trial thinks the jury was impartial. Criminal and civil defendants all think the system is rigged against them.
Yes. He has. He's been CONVICTED on 34 felony counts. We've been over this. You keep lying about it. He has not been SENTENCED for his crime. Conviction does not require sentencing.
You can NOT be convicted without the imposition of a sentence.
Are you Libs retarded? Read the law. Come on I can't hold your hand and wipe you butt too. Read the effing law.
I did read the law you f*cking dunce.
This is directly quoted from THE LAWS OF NEW YORK, the state where Donald J. Trump was convicted of 34 counts.
13. ``Conviction'' means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon, an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or more counts of such instrument.
14. ``Sentence'' means the imposition and entry of sentence upon a conviction.
15. "Judgment." A judgment is comprised of a conviction and the sentence imposed thereon and is completed by imposition and entry of the sentence.
There was NO EVIDENCE. It was he said she said and she lies about being assaulted every other day.
SEXUAL ASSAULT ACCUSATIONS Kristin Anderson – Early 1990s. Anderson says she was in a Manhattan bar with friends when the person next to her reached up her skirt and touched her vagina through her underwear. She says she turned and recognized the person as Donald Trump. E. Jean Carroll – late 1995 or early 1996. Carroll describes running into Trump in a department store, where she says he recognized her for her widely-read advice column. Carroll says they went into a dressing room after Trump asked for her advice on a present – lingerie – for another woman. Inside, she alleges that he shoved her against a wall, "forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I'm not certain — inside me." A senior White House official issued a statement to NY Magazine calling the accusation, "a completely false and unrealistic story." Rachel Crooks – 2005. A 22-year-old receptionist at the time, Crooks said Trump gave her an unwanted kiss on the mouth after meeting him in 2005. "Jane Doe" aka "Katie Johnson" – 1994. Lawsuit filed June 2016, Dropped after death threats. Jane Doe is an unnamed plaintiff, who has also gone by "Katie Johnson" in legal papers. She claims she was repeatedly raped by Trump and Jeffery Epstein at Epstein's New York City apartment in 1994, when she was 13 years old. A witness, also given a pseudonym — "Tiffany Doe" — said she recruited "Jane Doe" and others. Doe, using the name "Johnson," g Jessica Drake – 2006. While working as an adult film actress, Drake says Trump invited her to the room where he was staying in Lake Tahoe. In the room, she says he grabbed, hugged and kissed her and two other women who accompanied her without permission. Later, she alleges that Trump called her and pressed her to return to his room, offering $10,000 at one point. Drake says she declined. Jill Harth – 1992-1993. A Florida businesswoman who partnered with Trump and later dated him. Harth alleged that he groped her under the table at dinner with her boyfriend then repeatedly got her alone, and it would turn into a "wrestling match." She sued Trump for breach of contract, sexual harassment and at one point attempted rape. She settled and then in 1998 dated Trump. Cathy Heller – 1997. At a Mother's Day brunch for Mar-A-Lago club members' families in 1997, Heller alleges that when she was introduced to Trump, he grabbed her and tried to kiss her on the lips. Heller says she leaned back to avoid him and then he kissed her on the side of her mouth. Ninni Laaksonen – 2006. Former Miss Finland. Laaksonen told Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sonomat that Trump "squeezed her butt" as she and other pageant contestants stood next to him for a publicity photo, ahead of an appearance on The Letterman Show. Jessica Leeds – Early 1980s. Leeds says she sat next to Trump in first class on an airplane and that he kissed her, groped her chest and reached up her skirt, leading her to move back to coach. "He was like an octopus," she told The New York Times. In a NY Post report published October 14, 2016, Mindy McGillivray – Jan. 24, 2003. Working as an assistant to photographers at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, McGillivray charges that Trump nudged or grabbed her from behind. Jennifer Murphy – 2004. A former Miss USA and "The Apprentice" contestant, Grazia says that Trump kissed her on the lips after walking her to the elevators following a meeting in New York, which he said was to discuss a possible job. Cassandra Searles – 2013. Miss Washington 2013, Searles wrote on Facebook, "He probably doesn't want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room." Natasha Stoynoff – December 2005. Stoynoff was a celebrity reporter covering Trump for People Magazine. She alleges that Trump assaulted her while she was at Mar-a-Lago interviewing him and Melania Trump for a story about their one-year anniversary. She alleges Trump took her to a private room, pushed her against the wall and aggressively kissed her. Stoynoff also says a staffer told her Trump was waiting for her the next day at a massage appointment. Temple Taggart McDowell – 1997. McDowell, who was Miss Utah USA 1997, charges that Trump suddenly kissed her without her consent on two separate occasions. Karena Virginia – 1998. Virginia says that while she was waiting for a ride following the U.S Open tennis tournament, Trump walked up to her, grabbed her arm and touched her breast. Summer Zervos – 2007. A former contestant on "The Apprentice," Zervos alleges that Trump told her he wanted to discuss a possible job, but alone in a Beverly Hills Hotel bungalow, grabbed her breasts, kissed her and tried to lead her into a bedroom.
There was NO EVIDENCE. It was he said she said and she lies about being assaulted every other day.
You're not getting it, and I guess you never will.
It wasn't a he said/she said. It was a she said, and two witnesses corroborated what she said, and two more witnesses said he did the same thing to them, and he never showed up to say anything.
You're assuming the jury was not impartial because you don't like the result. I've got news for you, nobody who loses a jury trial thinks the jury was impartial. Criminal and civil defendants all think the system is rigged against them.
If you tell a lie to your friends and they tell someone you told them that lie that says nothing about the truth or untruth of the claim.
She forgot what YEAR it happened in. She lied and was very specific about her outfit because it was such a traumatic event. When it was pointed out that her outfit didn't exist when she says it happened she had to change her story.
Actual victims don't have this problem.
Biden's rape victim tells the same story she's told since the 90s.
Clinton's rape victim has been telling the same story for 40 years.
She's a liar just like Blasey-Ford and every other leftist woman who lies for politics and attention.
You can NOT be convicted without the imposition of a sentence.
Are you Libs retarded? Read the law. Come on I can't hold your hand and wipe you butt too. Read the effing law.
I did read the law you f*cking dunce.
This is directly quoted from THE LAWS OF NEW YORK, the state where Donald J. Trump was convicted of 34 counts.
13. ``Conviction'' means the entry of a plea of guilty to, or a verdict of guilty upon, an accusatory instrument other than a felony complaint, or to one or more counts of such instrument.
14. ``Sentence'' means the imposition and entry of sentence upon a conviction.
15. "Judgment." A judgment is comprised of a conviction and the sentence imposed thereon and is completed by imposition and entry of the sentence.
You're not getting it, and I guess you never will.
It wasn't a he said/she said. It was a she said, and two witnesses corroborated what she said, and two more witnesses said he did the same thing to them, and he never showed up to say anything.
You're assuming the jury was not impartial because you don't like the result. I've got news for you, nobody who loses a jury trial thinks the jury was impartial. Criminal and civil defendants all think the system is rigged against them.
If you tell a lie to your friends and they tell someone you told them that lie that says nothing about the truth or untruth of the claim.
She forgot what YEAR it happened in. She lied and was very specific about her outfit because it was such a traumatic event. When it was pointed out that her outfit didn't exist when she says it happened she had to change her story.
Actual victims don't have this problem.
Biden's rape victim tells the same story she's told since the 90s.
Clinton's rape victim has been telling the same story for 40 years.
She's a liar just like Blasey-Ford and every other leftist woman who lies for politics and attention.
If you tell a lie to your friends and they tell someone you told them that lie that says nothing about the truth or untruth of the claim.
She forgot what YEAR it happened in. She lied and was very specific about her outfit because it was such a traumatic event. When it was pointed out that her outfit didn't exist when she says it happened she had to change her story.
Actual victims don't have this problem.
Biden's rape victim tells the same story she's told since the 90s.
Clinton's rape victim has been telling the same story for 40 years.
She's a liar just like Blasey-Ford and every other leftist woman who lies for politics and attention.
You're not getting it, and I guess you never will.
It wasn't a he said/she said. It was a she said, and two witnesses corroborated what she said, and two more witnesses said he did the same thing to them, and he never showed up to say anything.
You're assuming the jury was not impartial because you don't like the result. I've got news for you, nobody who loses a jury trial thinks the jury was impartial. Criminal and civil defendants all think the system is rigged against them.
If you tell a lie to your friends and they tell someone you told them that lie that says nothing about the truth or untruth of the claim.
She forgot what YEAR it happened in. She lied and was very specific about her outfit because it was such a traumatic event. When it was pointed out that her outfit didn't exist when she says it happened she had to change her story.
Actual victims don't have this problem.
Biden's rape victim tells the same story she's told since the 90s.
Clinton's rape victim has been telling the same story for 40 years.
She's a liar just like Blasey-Ford and every other leftist woman who lies for politics and attention.
She told two of her friends about it right after it happened. Why would she do that if it was lie? If this was lie that she concocted to make money, why didn't she write a book, or sue Trump, back in the 1990s?
We're going in circles here. If you want to live in a Trump-loving fantasy world, go right ahead.