Would Boise Senior ID be considered an inner city team?
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I go to Madison west we're pretty good but there aren't ceilings here and all of our bathrooms are closed for vandalism
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Yeah Madison West is definitely in the hood. And by the hood I mean surrounded by graybeard UW professors.
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Madison west teachers be casting curses upon thy land in the name of greyskull
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I googled Baltimore city high schools on athletic.net since almost all of Baltimore looks like a slum. Looking at the records, apparently there's one with 15 sub 2:00 guys, a few sub 4:20 (including the full mile) 1600 guys, a few sub 9:40 guys and more sub 10:00 guys, and a couple of sub 16 and a lot of sub 17 guys. These aren't nationally elite times or records but they're good, especially for an urban school.
Has anybody raced against Gilman in Baltimore?
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It’s in a nice and very safe part of Baltimore (yes, I know that sounds impossible but that actually exists), you idiot. It’s a college prep school with a tuition of $35,000 per year, not a public school in the inner city
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Madison West I doubt the first to post was serious but decidedly not inner-city. The closest you could get in Madison would be La Follette but every school in Madison culls from such a large area that you get a mix. Hence, even if La Follette is the “poorest” of the 4 Madison high schools, there are still plenty of students doing well.
Chicago gets complicated by two factors that I would think are the same in NYC. There are a handful of selective enrollment schools (Whitney and Jones since they were named, among them). At these schools a number of students might be from lesser economic means because you are admitted by test scores and grades. That said, when you’re more financially well-off, it can be easier to achieve these grades and test scores since other life stresses can be less. Also, most (please note I said most. Also, if a school is near a park you can’t assume that is helpful as not all parks are safe, nor are all paths to the park at the times when it gets dark early in the fall) of the selective enrollment schools themselves are in nicer areas of the city (though might still then lack access to “good” places to run).
Still, glad this came up, as it is a culture and class thing. Since the interpretation of many posters for inner city has been tough/rough and/or poor, not to mention focusing on fewer races, it should be no surprise that the culture of distance running as a sport is missing from those communities and thus also the high schools in those areas.
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ILXCTF wrote:
Jones College Prep is better as a whole.
Chicago Latin as well. Spivey is in and out here.
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Great Showing by Minneapolis Southwest and Minneapolis Washburn at the Minneapolis City Conference Championships!
Washburn boys team beat Southwest by 1 point. Southwest put 5 under 17:08. Washburn put 5 under 17:05.
Sam Scott from Southwest - 15:08.
Washburn had 2 guys go 15:50.
Southwest girls team went 1-6.
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UChicago is always good at the D3 level.
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1994 McAteer High School in San Francisco Section with Bolota Asmerom, Yonathan Asmerom, Jerome Morton going 1,2,3 in Golden Gate Park.
Bolota eventually ran for Cal & the Olympics for Eritrea in the 5000.
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So Minneapolis Southwest / Washburn boys and girls teams didn’t make state, but ….
3 Minneapolis Washburn boys, 2 Minneapolis Southwest boys, and 1 Minneapolis Southwest girl are going to the MN state meet individually00 -
Madtown and Chitown wrote:
Madison West I doubt the first to post was serious but decidedly not inner-city. The closest you could get in Madison would be La Follette but every school in Madison culls from such a large area that you get a mix. Hence, even if La Follette is the “poorest” of the 4 Madison high schools, there are still plenty of students doing well.
Chicago gets complicated by two factors that I would think are the same in NYC. There are a handful of selective enrollment schools (Whitney and Jones since they were named, among them). At these schools a number of students might be from lesser economic means because you are admitted by test scores and grades. That said, when you’re more financially well-off, it can be easier to achieve these grades and test scores since other life stresses can be less. Also, most (please note I said most. Also, if a school is near a park you can’t assume that is helpful as not all parks are safe, nor are all paths to the park at the times when it gets dark early in the fall) of the selective enrollment schools themselves are in nicer areas of the city (though might still then lack access to “good” places to run).
Still, glad this came up, as it is a culture and class thing. Since the interpretation of many posters for inner city has been tough/rough and/or poor, not to mention focusing on fewer races, it should be no surprise that the culture of distance running as a sport is missing from those communities and thus also the high schools in those areas.
In NYC, the best public XC programs are the specialized and/or selective schools. They're all close to hilly parks.
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Minneapolis South boys team qualified for the state meet for the first time in forever. They took second at today’s section meet
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UChicago does very well admittedly just at the D3 level.
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Minneapolis Southwest girls team qualifies for state for the first time since 2003. They had a 1-7 sweep at conference earlier this month too
https://results.wayzatatiming.com/meets/41198/events/xc/1515736
https://results.wayzatatiming.com/meets/40949/events/xc/1510375
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The best inner city team in MN this year is the Highland Park girls team. Definitely has a good shot to make NXN this year
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St Paul Central girls team gets second via a tiebreaker and qualifies for the state meet
https://results.wayzatatiming.com/meets/41197/events/xc/1514854
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I'm going to bring up a school that may not have ever had the best "team" results but that has had some of the best individuals for a downtown "inner city" school I can think of (that isn't private and has kids bus in to the rough parts of town). San Diego High School. It's basically in the heart of downtown SD, backing onto to Balboa Park, and this area is ROUGH the last few times I've been there. I'm not sure if it was as bad in the 80s and 90s when future Olympians Marc Davis and Meb were running there but it didn't stop them from being Footlocker champs and state champs respectively. Outside of those two, I didn't see any other notable performers in my quick search but still saw some solid times for milers/2 milers for a downtown high school. Also, Athletic.net listed that Ed Ramos, who coached Marc and Meb, is still the coach!?! I'm not sure if the page hasn't been updated or if he's really been at SDHS for 40 years! If so, very cool to keep the program going and have two Olympians to show for it!
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