Hall To Coach Self

JoeGarland wrote:

From Steve Magness:

http://blog.thestepsfoundation.org/

I will be using some different sources to shape my training. Over the past 14 years of running I have developed a keen body awareness, which I will use on a daily basis, as well as advice from various experts, and prayer to ultimately shape my training. I believe that operating in this manner will allow me to run with a new level of faith and excitement.

Bill Rodgers from MARATHONING

From: Marathoning by Bill Rodgers with Joe Concannon

Pg. 72-75

There are a lot of variables that enable you to excel, to win races and do well. I want to make one thing clear, I have my own feelings about technique and running form. I am not a physiologist. I am not a cardiologist. I am a runner. Yet I still feel my thoughts are just as valid as anybody’s in the biomechanics lab, or any cardiologist from a top hospital.

I know few coaches who have raced the marathon well and therefore have the experience to coach the event.

I am the one who’s out there and I’ve learned through doing.

Wow. That is what I call good trolling. 10/10

I agree. The details really added to the overall quality of the post. My bullshit detector didn't go on until the end though. Wow Brojos, outwitted again. Really, Hall Symbolizes all of us? Wow you guys are dumb.

10/10 for Jung

I love the "hut dwelling corn eating" part. I cannot believe they posted that on the front page. It was believable, if dramatic until that line. Racism is only funny when subtle I suppose.

10/10

This sounds like someone else we all know: Gabe Jennings. And that turned out real well didn't?

To each his own wrote:

Seems all opine on what he aight to do, but in the end he has the best scope of his running. T lover might be a great coach, but at the end of the day, our boy Hall is an artist, a poet and deems it neccessary to build his reality on his own observations and experiences. I don,t know what happened with those guys, but Hall is on track to establish a process that might be what he needs. Can never tell with these things, but lots of greats did it on their own.

Touche mr Jung Campbell. 10/10. Your post is what makes letsrun.com so great!

Jung Campbell wrote:

I have to admit, I was trolling. I never expected such a response. I am laughing right now. Come on, no one is that dramatic about pro running. HA Ha. This whole web site is just too easy to manipulate. Just use one or two rhetorical strategies and the whole site goes into an uproar. Ha, thank you letsrun for making my day.

I mean, come on, "internal ego" being "devestated". Ha ha.

I find it more troubling that an adult would spend the time crafting a post purely intended to "get a rise" out of anonymous posters on a running message board. Once you read Kohut maybe you'll understand.

Hall needs to stop making all these excuses. Thats all we have seen from this man.

I want to find my spirituality or the next level of my spirituality. I call bullshit on Ryan Hall. He needs to find his inner man. He has more talent than almost any one and refuses to use it to his best. Obviously this religious spiritual nonsense has not helped.

Asics should drop his sponsorship until he finds his fitness not his inner self or what ever he wants to do. He is an absolute waste. A pussy and a whiner. You dont see the africans out there doing all this crap. They go out to race and they race to win wether its a grueling pace or starts slows and moves up. They go to break records and win prize money. And obviously hall doesnt come from the background that they do so he may not need the monetary aspect. But these people come from a helluva rougher life than him. Maybe he should focus on winning and the prize money for once and make the american public proud and not continually embarrassed at the world long distance running stage.

Every statement you have made is historically incorrect. Please see above and do some research.

hallisthebestright wrote:

if jesus was even a real person, you still have to explain why the majority of jews living in and around jerusalem at the time were utterly unconvinced that he was the messiah they'd been faithfully awaiting for millennia. it was only until the myth made its way out to the gentiles (and away from most eye-witnesses) that jesus' cultists could find people gullible enough to believe it en masse

Some Messianic Jews believe and teach that this is just the latest in a thousands of years cycle of turning away/returning by the Jewish people. It is nothing new.

Who knows where it will all end?

Those eyewitnesses you mention are more commonly known as the writers of the Gospels, who were Jews as were the hundreds of disciiples who fanned out to preach across nations to Jews and Gentiles. Paul was a Jew who originally made his living oppressing and killing Christians. Whom do you think were in the multitudes who ate from the loaves and the fishes and listened to the Sermon on the Mount?

Read the Gospels, don't be frightened by this strange era of pop culture, then make up your own mind.

I was blown away by the structure of the writing, the first time I read the Old Testament which occurred far into adulthood.

I had been taught that Victor Hugo was most responsible for the modern structure of the narrative.

As I read the Gospels, I could not help thinking that the 100 greatest novelists of modern times would have had to have been transported back to the time of Christ in order for such a story to have been contrived. This was my first inkling of the veracity of the New Testament. I am still a work in progress which does not bother me because almost all Christian theologians still debate minute details of both the Old and New Testaments.

The concise description of the disciples' character traits rang so true. The letters of Paul to his flocks are full of human conflict and institutional politics. There is so much wisdom and folly.

You must remember that Jews and Muslims consider Christ a prophet or holy man which of course makes absolutely no sense since Christ often declared himself to be the Son of God. A mere prophet, a flesh and blood man who declared himself to be the Son of God would by definition be a nut case.

So, either he was what he described himself to be or other faiths are honoring a nut case as a great prophet.

It makes me very uncomfortable to engage in these types of discussions especially on a sporting message board but it has become so clear that so many young people have never looked into these matters for themselves, have never been taught about this history or philosophy in high school or college and worst of all, seem to have gotten their information from cable TV flame throwers, cheap soap salesmen like Bill Maher and John Stewart.

Funny is funny but snearing stand up comics shouldn't keep you from looking into these matters.

I'm not going to to even bother reading the rest of your diatribe because this statement is just wrong. Nearly every historian agrees that Christ never declared himself the son of God. He was a doomsday guy who preached many things that can and should be admired, but he did not preach that he was the son of God.

[quote]Rosa Parks here wrote:

You must remember that Jews and Muslims consider Christ a prophet or holy man which of course makes absolutely no sense since Christ often declared himself to be the Son of God. /quote]

There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time.

-Malcolm X

He preached that he WAS God.

***Ryan is far more talented that I***

He needs to call Alberto and Jerry at Nike. Forget the Asics contract and head to Portland.

the best of us except for when he loses to ritz or places 14th at the phili half losing to a number of other american runners. this kid has nothing on the otc runners.

Jung Campbell wrote:

The thing that is really sad about Ryan Hall is that he reminds us of our own failures. Ryan is the best we have and if he can't win a major race how will we? His failures hit a chord with our internal ego, and it is devestating.

So to you who wonder why we are obsessed with Ryan Hall, maybe you should wonder why you aren't. He symbolizes the best any of us can do at this point.

To me what's really sad about this is that it's a "failure" when he PRs and gets beat.

Why does it always seem like such a catastrophic, depressing failure to fans of (American) distance running when an American does well but, what do you know, some "corn eating teen from Iten" still beats him? Yep, turns out a whole race of human beings are really good at running. The Americans I'm a fan of are also really good, and are doing their best to be the best. That's awesome. That PURSUIT of getting better is what it's all about, and it's why I don't see Ryan Hall get all the resources this country has to offer and still get beat as a demoralizing failure. I sure as shit don't let it make me feel bad about myself as I runner.

To have one's goal be "to be the best" means the goal is largely outside of one's control. I'm rooting for an American to win the Olympic 5000m as much as the next guy, believe me. I love competition. I love American distance running. But what I love about the sport and about competitive running is all athletes trying to be the best they can be. To have success so exclusively on how someone ELSE does just doesn't make sense to me.

This is the credited response.