Hilarious video@womens pre-nats

The pre-nats is a "dry run" for meet management. It's an opportunity to make sure everything is organized and ready to go for the NCAA meet in five weeks. Most of the meet workers work in the same stations every year--they know exactly what they are to do, and how to handle most situations. Many of the chute workers are ISU throwers, and some are working the chute for the first time. If meet management determines that the workers were tossing the runners too far, I'm sure they will get it right for nationals.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, each race had ~40 teams. In a 2 1/2 minute span, you've got 150 runners coming through the chute in the White race. In my view, a backed up chute would be disastrous. Who cares how they keep it clear?

Four years of NCAA D1 running... competing in both Pre-NCAAs and the NCAA championships, pre-chip timing (when they still had to pull your tag)... and I never saw a problem. Finish shoots worked just great. Seems to me like shuttling 200+ runners through a wide-open finish should be seamless.The biggest problem in this race was the big guy in the black jacket who is jumping around like an Ape, looking for the next girl to throw against the fence.

(not so) smarty pants wrote:

The pre-nats is a "dry run" for meet management. It's an opportunity to make sure everything is organized and ready to go for the NCAA meet in five weeks. Most of the meet workers work in the same stations every year--they know exactly what they are to do, and how to handle most situations. Many of the chute workers are ISU throwers, and some are working the chute for the first time. If meet management determines that the workers were tossing the runners too far, I'm sure they will get it right for nationals.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, each race had ~40 teams. In a 2 1/2 minute span, you've got 150 runners coming through the chute in the White race. In my view, a backed up chute would be disastrous. Who cares how they keep it clear?

Still, dudes, that many slim coeds in one place in skimpy running togs..wow.

matt colbert wrote:

can black and brown and yellow people run in the women's white race?

Only if they show up in whiteface.

I would have never thought this thread would have gone on as long as it has. I'm excited to see the National's race both men and women. Hopefully everyone will put out such a strong effort again and make the race one of the fastest in history.

Yeah: hypochondria

Surprise! wrote:

So this disease causes one to start staggering around when the finish line is in sight? What kicks it off? I\'m skeptical, but certainly willing to be educated.

Did Julia Stamps have the same thing?

precisely wrote:

Definite drama queens.

Here's a thought, if a race at this point in the season caused you to finish with such poor form, you basically just blew your "load" for the remainder of the season. (You can race above your fitness level once in a while, but don't expect to feel sharp during a race for some time after going into the well like this. This is especially true given the way most collegians train.)

This would suggest a couple of things. Maybe the women are all aerobically undertrained and pushed the most out of their bodies they could given their current fitness. Or, none of the women's coaches know how to train their runners to peak, and we saw a lot of season PB's in that race.

The Japanese see stuff like this and laugh at how the US trashes its young runners with 2-3 racing seasons every year for 8 years and then the attrition rate after college means a weak domestic scene and international teams that are weaker than they need to be.

Notice all the temporary tats on faces, how many guys ever do that showy rah-rah cheerleader crap?

OK, I'll admit to not reading the entie thread, but I noticed a few things in the video.

1) No way the chute should be a fence and it should be that wide! People can't get out if they tried.

2) The chute workers are over zealous to say the least. They grabbed a few of the top women and the women had to brush them aside. As soon as one cries "help me"and their immediate response is witnessed, they all want a piece of that attention.

In summary, a combination of poor course/finish line set-up, over zealous officials, and some classic stereotypical responses by the women. In that order.

[/quote] The Japanese see stuff like this and laugh at how the US trashes its young runners with 2-3 racing seasons every year for 8 years and then the attrition rate after college means a weak domestic scene and international teams that are weaker than they need to be.[/quote]

Agree 100%. And back in the day we had a number of athletes who would run this collegiate crap for 3 seasons, then do open nationals and then a European circuit. Most of them died an early death. You want to see the ultimate in nonsense? Google Indoor Track (high school and collegiate)

Attention!

Major Disappointment here!

I am writing in response to the few young women who chimed in on this message board post to declare how proud they are of their effort on the 13th and their new 6km PR which they ran in Terre Haute.

Looking forward to the outdoor track season next Spring when you can continue on running fast times?

Be prepared to not live up to these new expectations you have put upon yourself.

Has your Coach ever discussed with you Jack Daniels Vo2Max charts? Are you familiar with equivalency charts? There are even internet based race pace calculators that will help you figure out or predict your times for other distances based on your current race times or fitness levels.

So, for all the women that believe they ran an honest 6km distance in sub 20:00 at ISU you can expect to run 16:26 for 5km and 34:31 for 10km on the track

Sub 20:30, 16:51 5km

Sub 21:00, 17:16 5km

Sub 21:30, 17:40 5km

Sub 22:00, 18:05 5km

Sub 22:30, 18:30 5km

Sub 23:00, 18:55 5km

When you do run the times above, let your letsrun.com fans know so we can celebrate along with you.

Dumb post!! What are your times? I swear there are so many women haters on this post. I pray none of you end up married because your women is in for a world of hurt.

Do you disagree with your coach or Dr. Daniels?

Does your boyfriend, fiancee not doubt your times?

Post a picture so we can see how chic you are.

This video is exactly why most men think that women's sports are a joke. If it weren't for the fact that women's sports have them compete in underwear and thongs, no men in the world would pay attention to them. Don't think I'm right? How many guys here would want a Women's Basketball game if all the women were in decent shape and were all wearing buns and half tops? Women's sports are boring and unwatchable if not for the fact that a few of them have great bodies and show it off. Even then, it's all for sex appeal and attention, and that's all that women want anyways right?

What a load of bull. I ran under 21:30 in the white race this year and have also run under 17 minutes on the track. My race at PreNats was one of my better races also. Your time equivalencies suck. My impression of the race is that it was extremely competitive and everyone pushed themselves very hard, as should be expected at such a big meet!

Also, the reason why the finish line looked so bad was definitely the chute workers. I ran through both mats and started walking at a decent pace and the workers still tried to carry me away.

Before you start criticizing women's running maybe you should post your times so we can criticize them because I'm sure they're BLAZING.

I must also clarify: the reason why your time equivalencies suck is because you assume that the track is just as fast as cross country. Running under 21:30 pretty much requires you to run 17:40 through 5k. Are you telling me that running 17:40 pace for 6k on grass and hills means that I can only run 17:40 on the track? How about a minute faster...idiot.

track chic wrote:

your women is in for a world of hurt.

"woman"

no, keep it as women, change the "is" to an "are"

this is exactly why people dont respect the WNBA