The only thing we know for certain is, if a Kenyan so much as flirts with any form of chemical assistance, they will be caught. Which is more than we can say for other countries who don't test their athletes as much.
… and of course this clown has to chime in with his usual disingenuous crap. A fat pasty dweeb who pretends to be Kenyan. Get him to a rubber room.
Jakob hasn't raced in London at his peak. I always go to this meet and it's just never super fast so this was a bit of a surprise. 3:28 is great on this track and that's Kerr's fastest time ever outside of a championships
Ummm no, fastest time but please look at context!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 relative unknown guys have ran 2 seconds faster than him this year 2025. Space-time moves through pretty quickly in the 1500m event, if you are not running 3:25 outright now you are considered outdated very quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Habz and Koech will very soon become outdated as either they don't find the strength to keep running 3:27s or another 2 guys will replace them next year. But as long as none of them runs 3:25 outright, the cycle repeats itself and they will soon become outdated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Expectations have changed a lot because Kerr is 28 and if he isn't running 3:25 this year then it gets more and more and more unlikely next year and year after you feelin me??????? Kerr has also recently ran a 3:44 mile in NYC which is considered difficult and it also being end of season where he floundered at Zurich before travelling to NYC, not optimal at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So we least expect a well prepared Kerr coming off what he claimed to be PB type workout (albeit I have informed everyone that it is SLOW AND LAZY AF COMPARED TO EL KINGDOM'S WORKOUTS!!!!) to be WINNING THE RACE AT LEAST IF NOT ALSO NOTCHING A 3:27 OR FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
over and over again, people overestimate how much a celebration slows a runner down. once the momentum in the legs is going, waving the arms or doing whatever with the celebrating isn't slowing you down much. no doubt it's less than half a second in today's case. maybe a tenth or two. he started celebrating around 10-12 meters before the line
for reference, that curved line around which he starts his celebration is 9 meters from the finish
I think most people are annoyed that he had the unmitigated temerity to celebrate before crossing the line against a world class field given there's a 99.97% chance he's hitting the juice harder than the late Rich Piana. Like, if you're going to cheat, at least have the gumption to act surprised or tired when winning a diamond league against the last two world champions.
Look sir, I'm the RF King on LRC, a physics space-time specialist, you can trust my curated opinions and their subjective biases alright!!!!!!!!! I'm telling you now that Koech is unconditionally clean, his performances are legitimate you feelin me?????????????
I understand the space-time of 1500m better than anyone else on earth and I'm not boasting, I employ a TOTAL view of the sport and its interaction with mind, body, spirit and environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Koech is only 18-19, very youthful and innocent, Kerr is 28, in the twilight zone of his career and he would be happy with a 3:29 in a non-championship race, he still has time to improve for Tokyo I wouldn't bet on him running another 3:27 after 2 rounds of heats and semi-finals because he is 28, not 25 or 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Decline is rapid at the top levels of sport due to unprecedented RF and chemical pollution in our environment which also pollutes our central nervous systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kerr failed to win the race which is an extremely important element of 1500m dominance. I rather Kerr won in 3:31 than lose in 3:29.
Koech though has a terrible run technique for the 1500m, I say it here first, HE WILL NOT LAST LONG, the sport is absolutely unforgiving to athletes with inefficient running technique. Of the East Africans, only Bernard Lagat (clean) and Noah Ngeny (clean) had the most efficient techniques ever and that's why both were legendary milers next to of course EL Kingdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Koech will not last long in this sport, I don't even think he gets the WR because he is too lanky and generates too much lateral motion but he gets away with it because he has the energy to compensate for it because he is young duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think most people are annoyed that he had the unmitigated temerity to celebrate before crossing the line against a world class field given there's a 99.97% chance he's hitting the juice harder than the late Rich Piana. Like, if you're going to cheat, at least have the gumption to act surprised or tired when winning a diamond league against the last two world champions.
Look sir, I'm the RF King on LRC, a physics space-time specialist, you can trust my curated opinions and their subjective biases alright!!!!!!!!!
Koech is only 18-19, very youthful and innocent, Kerr is 28, in the twilight zone of his career and he would be happy with a 3:29 in a non-championship race, he still has time to improve for Tokyo I wouldn't bet on him running another 3:27 after 2 rounds of heats and semi-finals because he is 28, not 25 or 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Decline is rapid at the top levels of sport due to unprecedented RF and chemical pollution in our environment which also pollutes our central nervous systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of the East Africans, only Bernard Lagat (clean) and Noah Ngeny (clean) had the most efficient techniques ever and that's why both were legendary milers next to of course EL Kingdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although relatively new to these boards, Khamis is already approaching GOAT-tier in the troll rankings. Honestly, super impressive
Ummm no, fastest time but please look at context!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 relative unknown guys have ran 2 seconds faster than him this year 2025. Space-time moves through pretty quickly in the 1500m event, if you are not running 3:25 outright now you are considered outdated very quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Habz and Koech will very soon become outdated as either they don't find the strength to keep running 3:27s or another 2 guys will replace them next year. But as long as none of them runs 3:25 outright, the cycle repeats itself and they will soon become outdated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Expectations have changed a lot because Kerr is 28 and if he isn't running 3:25 this year then it gets more and more and more unlikely next year and year after you feelin me??????? Kerr has also recently ran a 3:44 mile in NYC which is considered difficult and it also being end of season where he floundered at Zurich before travelling to NYC, not optimal at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So we least expect a well prepared Kerr coming off what he claimed to be PB type workout (albeit I have informed everyone that it is SLOW AND LAZY AF COMPARED TO EL KINGDOM'S WORKOUTS!!!!) to be WINNING THE RACE AT LEAST IF NOT ALSO NOTCHING A 3:27 OR FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Habz is a potential medalist this year.
Yes he is but the pitfall with Kerr is failure to win the race, not necessarily running a slow '3:29' time you feelin me???????????
Winning always trumps timing always remember that sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has nothing to do with peaking mind you as some deceptive schools of thought from the Hocker fan group like to have you believe. You don't need to time any peaks to still win any race comfortably because you can win any race comfortably off of being 1) TALENTED, and 2) well-conditioned in terms of general health, fitness, strength year-round specific to your sport. My boys Kenenisa Bekele and Haile Geb were always winning like clockwork no matter what, they did lose but RARELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And also if they did lose they lost to generational talents like themselves, example Geb lost to Daniel Komen in the 5000m race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The folks that tell you they are losing 8 straight 1500m/mile races this year because of peaking when they are supposed to be the Olympic champ are probably concealing drugs in my humble opinion alright!!!!!! Stay safe from these danger guys, protect yourselves from their offerings!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Look sir, I'm the RF King on LRC, a physics space-time specialist, you can trust my curated opinions and their subjective biases alright!!!!!!!!!
Koech is only 18-19, very youthful and innocent, Kerr is 28, in the twilight zone of his career and he would be happy with a 3:29 in a non-championship race, he still has time to improve for Tokyo I wouldn't bet on him running another 3:27 after 2 rounds of heats and semi-finals because he is 28, not 25 or 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Decline is rapid at the top levels of sport due to unprecedented RF and chemical pollution in our environment which also pollutes our central nervous systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of the East Africans, only Bernard Lagat (clean) and Noah Ngeny (clean) had the most efficient techniques ever and that's why both were legendary milers next to of course EL Kingdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although relatively new to these boards, Khamis is already approaching GOAT-tier in the troll rankings. Honestly, super impressive
Is it the part about Bernard Lagat and Noah Ngeny being clean sir???????
I swear both are clean as A VIRGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do read all the sh9t that you LRC fools claim about Lagat and Ngeny and I'm subjectively saying they are clean DESPITE all your claims and accusations alright!!!!!!!!!!!
Lagat is an angel just like El Kingdom, these 2 guys are the same genre!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lagat's longevity is down to pure talent and a lack of exposure to RF in his younger days leading to self-preservation and natural neurophysiological resilience in all his brain-blood leading to a long successful career in the middle distance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ngeny by all means is also the same and like Lagat and El Kingdom had beautiful running technique which makes sense in space-time!!!!!!!!! These 3 legends ran the 1500m off of extremely efficient interaction with the earth's gravito-magnetic field like water over rocks and not using more brute force(nuclear bomb explosion) like Kerr Josh, Jakob, Hocker, Nuguse, Kessler, Habz etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Other words, the former 3 are using the gravito-magnetic field to convert energy and momentum for them whereas the latter group are more frequently bulldozing their way through the mile using their energy against the earth's gravito-magnetic one. And that is why those 3 legends were regularly running just as fast or faster than the latter group despite no supershoes and supertracks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing we know for certain is, if a Kenyan so much as flirts with any form of chemical assistance, they will be caught. Which is more than we can say for other countries who don't test their athletes as much.
So go ahead and name some countries you think are doping as much as Kenya. I'll accept India as an example, many have been busted there.
Im taking systemic wide spread doping on a Kenyan scale.
Look sir, I'm the RF King on LRC, a physics space-time specialist, you can trust my curated opinions and their subjective biases alright!!!!!!!!!
Koech is only 18-19, very youthful and innocent, Kerr is 28, in the twilight zone of his career and he would be happy with a 3:29 in a non-championship race, he still has time to improve for Tokyo I wouldn't bet on him running another 3:27 after 2 rounds of heats and semi-finals because he is 28, not 25 or 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Decline is rapid at the top levels of sport due to unprecedented RF and chemical pollution in our environment which also pollutes our central nervous systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of the East Africans, only Bernard Lagat (clean) and Noah Ngeny (clean) had the most efficient techniques ever and that's why both were legendary milers next to of course EL Kingdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although relatively new to these boards, Khamis is already approaching GOAT-tier in the troll rankings. Honestly, super impressive
Mental illness is not impressive. It is fascinating to watch him deteriorate though.
Very sad to see that Koech is blamed for doping because of Chepngetich. Chepngetich literally took 1.5% off WR. In 1500m 1.5 % improvement would mean running 3:22.76.
Chill out: The guy is in 3:27 shape - that isn't otherworldly stuff where someone is clearly doping. Even Habz ran 3:27
Yes, he ran 3:27...but remember that Koech is 18 and Habz was 31 when he ran 3:27.
Running 3:27 at those ages is unheard of. Not even Jakob ran 3:27 at 18 years old.
They have super shoes and bicarb now it’s different. Jakob isn’t East African so he doesn’t have the runway potential as Koech. You need to give East African the edge supremo in terms of their epigenetic excellence
Os it possible Chepngetich and Ingebrigtsen have the same enhancements?
In your dreams…..
chep was on EPO and Jakob has always been clean else why did he always get injured in the Achilles. He could have rubbed T gel on it and experience full power but didn’t ?
his injury woes are all due to the mRNA jab he was forced to take to compete at meets and travel around the world. Naomi wolf the mRNA expert says it takes 3 years to maim a healthy human being and experience all the effects and make him a skeleton of his former self. The nanotechnology carbon tubes from c60 form miniature integrated circuits that can conduct electrical current under hostile conditions. This can accumulate in certain parts of body like Achilles and induce inflammation by activating mast cells which produces histamine overdrive and finally tenderness pain and breakage like tears.
Jakob is no more. Prepare to welcome Laros instead who is unvaccinated because Netherlands did not authorise the jabs for 13-21 year olds in 2022. Same for myers and Australia. I think koech wouofnt have got the jab too. Norway was stupid enough to insist Jakob get the jab as he was 20-21at that time
George Mills has to be one of the most retarded professional runners on the scene. How tf do you fall 3 separate times over the last year…
He has a somewhat somewhat shorter stride and a somewhat somewhat higher cadence than most runners - not unique, but those guys/gals are more likely to be involved in group falls when a shuffling phase begins.
Very sad to see that Koech is blamed for doping because of Chepngetich. Chepngetich literally took 1.5% off WR. In 1500m 1.5 % improvement would mean running 3:22.76.
Chill out: The guy is in 3:27 shape - that isn't otherworldly stuff where someone is clearly doping. Even Habz ran 3:27
Yes, he ran 3:27...but remember that Koech is 18 and Habz was 31 when he ran 3:27.
Running 3:27 at those ages is unheard of. Not even Jakob ran 3:27 at 18 years old.
Look sir, I'm the RF King on LRC, a physics space-time specialist, you can trust my curated opinions and their subjective biases alright!!!!!!!!!
Koech is only 18-19, very youthful and innocent, Kerr is 28, in the twilight zone of his career and he would be happy with a 3:29 in a non-championship race, he still has time to improve for Tokyo I wouldn't bet on him running another 3:27 after 2 rounds of heats and semi-finals because he is 28, not 25 or 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Decline is rapid at the top levels of sport due to unprecedented RF and chemical pollution in our environment which also pollutes our central nervous systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of the East Africans, only Bernard Lagat (clean) and Noah Ngeny (clean) had the most efficient techniques ever and that's why both were legendary milers next to of course EL Kingdom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although relatively new to these boards, Khamis is already approaching GOAT-tier in the troll rankings. Honestly, super impressive
The chap has lots of good potential, he could be the first guy ever to get us travelling interstellar at the speed of what light? how old is he may I ask? Over 2000 technically complex posts on Lrc is very impressive stat....he doesn't compete with nobody here he is without peer just like el g himself. Ethereal how that record lasted for so long and not one man has come within .73 in the past 10 years.
Os it possible Chepngetich and Ingebrigtsen have the same enhancements?
In your dreams…..
chep was on EPO and Jakob has always been clean else why did he always get injured in the Achilles. He could have rubbed T gel on it and experience full power but didn’t ?
his injury woes are all due to the mRNA jab he was forced to take to compete at meets and travel around the world. Naomi wolf the mRNA expert says it takes 3 years to maim a healthy human being and experience all the effects and make him a skeleton of his former self. The nanotechnology carbon tubes from c60 form miniature integrated circuits that can conduct electrical current under hostile conditions. This can accumulate in certain parts of body like Achilles and induce inflammation by activating mast cells which produces histamine overdrive and finally tenderness pain and breakage like tears.
Jakob is no more. Prepare to welcome Laros instead who is unvaccinated because Netherlands did not authorise the jabs for 13-21 year olds in 2022. Same for myers and Australia. I think koech wouofnt have got the jab too. Norway was stupid enough to insist Jakob get the jab as he was 20-21at that time
To add:
Vaccine shedding means that even those athletes who didn't take the jab still has the spike protein and graphene oxide in their blood stream. It's everywhere now, in water, food, air, it's non-contact wireless transmission smaller than aerosols due to nano-size atoms. They accumulate at warp speed in your body and if you don't know which antimicrobial herbs to take and how to protect your liver and heart these nanotechnology jab will keep accumulating indefinitely and cause subterranean problems. it won't stay dormant. these are little antennas that zap the hell out of the body and for Jakob it has zapped him twice in the worst spot ever. This video explains it all, the Jakob in 2021 Tokyo before jab would be the ghost of himself in 2022 and onwards. Dr Bhakdi his name
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these (mRNA) vaccines are going to change mankind. They are changing you – your psyche, your brain. Don't do it. You are losing your individuality and personality. You will cease to be a human being.
Dr. Peter Breggin, MD, recently interviewed Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi of D4CE on the New World Order and the danger of mRNA ???vaccines???. https://doctors4covidethics.org/dr-peter-breggins-recent-interview-wit
I don't think Keoch will even make the final in Tokyo.
it's like saying Laros won't make the final in Tokyo, that's just exaggeration. being suspected of drugs is different from not making the final in Tokyo and they are not linked. Koech runs in a rocky style a very unsteady gait that could be subject to the elements around. that stride of his looks way too mousey and seems like understriding a lot. maybe he is just tired at the end and breaking down in form but recall morceli and el g look way better.
Although relatively new to these boards, Khamis is already approaching GOAT-tier in the troll rankings. Honestly, super impressive
Is it the part about Bernard Lagat and Noah Ngeny being clean sir???????
I swear both are clean as A VIRGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do read all the sh9t that you LRC fools claim about Lagat and Ngeny and I'm subjectively saying they are clean DESPITE all your claims and accusations alright!!!!!!!!!!!
Lagat is an angel just like El Kingdom, these 2 guys are the same genre!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lagat's longevity is down to pure talent and a lack of exposure to RF in his younger days leading to self-preservation and natural neurophysiological resilience in all his brain-blood leading to a long successful career in the middle distance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ngeny by all means is also the same and like Lagat and El Kingdom had beautiful running technique which makes sense in space-time!!!!!!!!! These 3 legends ran the 1500m off of extremely efficient interaction with the earth's gravito-magnetic field like water over rocks and not using more brute force(nuclear bomb explosion) like Kerr Josh, Jakob, Hocker, Nuguse, Kessler, Habz etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Other words, the former 3 are using the gravito-magnetic field to convert energy and momentum for them whereas the latter group are more frequently bulldozing their way through the mile using their energy against the earth's gravito-magnetic one. And that is why those 3 legends were regularly running just as fast or faster than the latter group despite no supershoes and supertracks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
don't know why anybody would think Noah Ngeny is doping? the best time to dope for him was after that car accident where he still managed to run 3:30 actually, clean apparently. now imagine had he doped he would still be running back to 3:27s and 3:28s and don't we be seeing that from him? yet we didn't and besides he actually just quit. if he had the benefit of EPO or whatever do you think he wouldn't want to test waters and see far he can go in the sport? does he not want to know if he could be a 'comeback king'?
as for Lagat it's just plain stupid people just go about on his false positive A test and slander him. James Li his coach at Arizona University has never been indicted with anything related to drugs or dope athletes. Lagat was his only star student and he never coached another Lagat type athlete to the same level and I would argue that we would need to see evidence of James having a stable of stellar athletes like Federico Rosa has to say that he most likely did things dirty. Lagat's qualities were mental strength and fearless-ness, if I'm not wrong he was kalenjin and that means boys age 12 need to skin their penises and go on a hunting trip with the elders to kill a male lion. even el g didn't have such upbringing so Lagat would be the furthest away from doing anything dishonorable to the sport, his wife Gladys and children.
Lying about your age only makes sense if you can't win senior competitions and (ab)use the system to win competitions meant for younger people. Once you are winning senior competitions, you're better off making way more money competing with the seniors ...
