I’d have to agree, if it’s referring to abusing kids for his own ego and “goat” status.
The Herriman boys team won NXN before.
But the girls team has yet to make NXN. They just haven’t had the numbers to do it.
Herriman had barely any freshman girls on the team last fall. Now they have like 13 sophomore girls, so it’s the largest class on the girls team this year.
This year they have barely any 9th grade girls on the team. I think it’s because the Herriman campus doesn’t have any 9th graders. They are at the middle school.
Not someone who coaches at a large suburban public school or private school. The shear numbers, demographics, and ability to recruit make it too easy for a coach at these types of schools. But someone that produces consistently good XC teams at an under 1k rural or urban public school.
What about those that are successful only when they get two families?
Hard to believe people still spout this BS.
Standout Newbury Park High School Performances under Sean Brosnan (excluding Young and Sahlman siblings)
(2022 results include results officially coached by his wife where he wrote the workouts)
Girls 4xMile Relay - National Record Performance: 19:48.58 Athletes: Samantha McDonnell, Ailish Hawkins, Bella Chittenden, and Morgan Nygren Meet: New Balance Nationals Outdoor (June 18, 2022)
Daniel Appleford 3200m: 8:46.43 at the Arcadia Invitational (April 9, 2022) 5k Cross Country: 14:19.46 at the Garmin RunningLane Cross Country Championships (December 4, 2021)
Jace Aschbrenner 3200m: 8:44.93 at a Time Trial during Pandemic (May 23, 2020) 5k Cross Country: 14:26 at the Woodbridge Cross Country Classic (September 21, 2019)
Aaron Cantu 3200m: 8:57.62 at the APU Meet of Champions (March 19, 2022)
Dev Doshi 3200m: 9:02.13 at the CIF-SS Division 1 Finals (June 5, 2021) 5k Cross Country: 14:59.51 at the Garmin RunningLane Cross Country Championships (December 4, 2021)
Isabella Fauria 800m: 2:10.96 at the Dublin Distance Fiesta (March 16, 2019) 1600m: 4:55.77 at the Azusa Meet of Champions (March 23, 2019)
Nicholas Goldstein 3200m: 8:59.19 at the Marmonte League Finals (April 29, 2021) 5k Cross Country: 14:31.91 at the Garmin RunningLane Cross Country Championships (December 4, 2021)
Ailish Hawkins 3200m: 10:20.10 at the Arcadia Invitational (April 8, 2022)
Hector Martinez 5k Cross Country: 14:52.72 at the Garmin RunningLane Cross Country Championships (December 4, 2021)
Samantha McDonnell Mile: 4:38.93 at the Brooks PR Invitational (June 15, 2022) 800m: 2:08.06 at the Azusa Meet of Champions (March 26, 2022)
Brayden Seymour Mile: 4:06.66 at the Brooks PR Invitational (June 15, 2022)
Garmin RunningLane Cross Country Championships Top 7 boys under 15:00
There are other standout times, but these should cover most of the top performances.
NP set the girls 4xmile national record lmao wtf. Brosnan actually is goated.
It’s a private school. Doesn’t matter who small they are. They have no geographical restrictions and can hand pick kids.
Given the tuition is $37K, they aren’t handpicking runners. If parents do send their kids there, it’s unlikely their decision to do so, had anything to do with distance running.
If they are top recruited athletes they don't pay. That is worked into the tuition that the rest pay. That's not a secret and not only 'revenue' sports
Doug, if I'm not mistaken, started out coaching out in the desert (maybe Yucaipa, or Yucca Valley, it's been a long time and I don't remember). If I remember correctly, he had good but not national powerhouse teams out there.
IIRC, Doug started coaching at Desert Hot Springs high school in the California desert. I think was about 2000 enrollment, but incredibly poor and demographically challenged. An awful high school to work out, but he took a nothing team and turned them into league champions within a year. Didn’t stay very long because he recognized it would be a mostly fruitless endeavor and he could have a much greater impact at a high school with many more resources to build large scale success. Hats off to him for doing fantastic things in his coaching career. If he had stayed at his first high school coaching, we would never have heard of him and that would’ve been a great loss for the sport and the many kids who have altered the landscape because of him.
Given the tuition is $37K, they aren’t handpicking runners. If parents do send their kids there, it’s unlikely their decision to do so, had anything to do with distance running.
Had nothing to do with distance running? Hate to break it to you, but distance running is the new money sport. Families with means will absolutely send their kid to private school to run, especially if their public school team sucks. On top of it, if they're good age group kids, they may not be paying full tuition anyway.
On a smaller scale I used to see this same debate at the school where I taught. The teacher that was always recognized and awarded the Best Teacher Award and was looked upon highly by the administration was also the teacher that taught the advanced classes.
So yeah, give me 5 classes of kids that are all college bound, and I bet I could do some pretty dynamic things in the classroom. Would she be such a great teacher if she had to deal with the general student body? I had classes where 25 of the 30 kids didn't care, didn't want to be there, and would gladly just take the F and not mess with doing any work, or listening to anything I had to say. Would she be a "great teacher" if she dealt with that type of student?
I think it's hard to overlook Bill Reeves formerly out in southern California. At South Hills and Claremont, he took South Hills to CIF champions with both boys and girls individual titles in the same year and turned Claremont into a powerhouse with an undefeated league season, dual state titles in D2 plus an individual champion for the boys in 2016. Got the Claremont girls team to NXN and started one of the largest invitationals in SoCal (Cool Breeze).