No, he didn't need to feel that. It is a fair assessment of the outcome. He had described it as his "best distance" and yet he was done after 10k, reduced to a walk and finished 39th.
Shoot for the moon and even if you miss you’ll land among the stars!!
You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
Jakob blew up in his HM debut but still managed to set the Norwegian 10K road record and set the Ingebrigtsen Family HM Record.
Yes, it's a limited example, since Cheptegei has only run three global 5k finals, where he's finished first, 8th and 9th. How do you propose that we should judge him over a distance he doesn't feel like competing in more than once every 4 or so years?
12:35 wr as against 12:48. Also happens to be the world's best 10k runner. I don't think I would write him off yet over the shorter distance in which he has the wr.
What does Cheptegeis WR and 10k performances have to do with the fact that he has literally only ran 3 global 5k finals in his entire career? You said we can't judge Cheptegei on a limited sample size when his entire 5k career is a limited sample size.
12:35 wr as against 12:48. Also happens to be the world's best 10k runner. I don't think I would write him off yet over the shorter distance in which he has the wr.
What does Cheptegeis WR and 10k performances have to do with the fact that he has literally only ran 3 global 5k finals in his entire career? You said we can't judge Cheptegei on a limited sample size when his entire 5k career is a limited sample size.
So is Ingebrigtsen's, by the same measure. In that case he looks unlikely to get any faster than 12:48 over the 5k. Cheptegei's record leaves him in the dust.
What does Cheptegeis WR and 10k performances have to do with the fact that he has literally only ran 3 global 5k finals in his entire career? You said we can't judge Cheptegei on a limited sample size when his entire 5k career is a limited sample size.
So is Ingebrigtsen's, by the same measure. In that case he looks unlikely to get any faster than 12:48 over the 5k. Cheptegei's record leaves him in the dust.
I'm not the one who argues that we can't judge them on a limited sample size, you are. Jakob has won the same amount of global 5k finals at age 24 that Cheptegei has competed in at age 28, so no, Jakob having accomplished more in a shorter amount of time does not mean that they're equivalent by the same measure.
So is Ingebrigtsen's, by the same measure. In that case he looks unlikely to get any faster than 12:48 over the 5k. Cheptegei's record leaves him in the dust.
I'm not the one who argues that we can't judge them on a limited sample size, you are. Jakob has won the same amount of global 5k finals at age 24 that Cheptegei has competed in at age 28, so no, Jakob having accomplished more in a shorter amount of time does not mean that they're equivalent by the same measure.
I didn't argue that about how they should be judged. I was responding to those who were.
Until Ingebrigtsen gets close to Cheptegei's wr he has a major gap in his 5k resume. Cheptegei, for his part, needs a global title over the distance. But he currently remains significantly faster than a runner who has only beaten 13 min once.
In that case he looks unlikely to get any faster than 12:48 over the 5k.
Only a complete fool would claim this. Well, it's you.
You quoted my comment out of context, which was to say forming conclusions on just one race - as has been done here about Cheptegei - can be misleading. You aren't smart enough to understand that.
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I'm not the one who argues that we can't judge them on a limited sample size, you are. Jakob has won the same amount of global 5k finals at age 24 that Cheptegei has competed in at age 28, so no, Jakob having accomplished more in a shorter amount of time does not mean that they're equivalent by the same measure.
I didn't argue that about how they should be judged. I was responding to those who were.
Until Ingebrigtsen gets close to Cheptegei's wr he has a major gap in his 5k resume. Cheptegei, for his part, needs a global title over the distance. But he currently remains significantly faster than a runner who has only beaten 13 min once.
No, it's not a major gap in his resume to be top 20 all time in the event. Not cracking the top 50, like Mo Farah, is a major gap. But somehow that doesn't apply to Farah, only to Jakob.
Only a complete fool would claim this. Well, it's you.
You quoted my comment out of context, which was to say forming conclusions on just one race - as has been done here about Cheptegei - can be misleading. You aren't smart enough to understand that.
Gaslighting like a true narcissist hahaha I am way smarter than you, boyo.
You quoted my comment out of context, which was to say forming conclusions on just one race - as has been done here about Cheptegei - can be misleading. You aren't smart enough to understand that.
Gaslighting like a true narcissist hahaha I am way smarter than you, boyo.
You just showed you aren't. A bit embarrassing for you.
I didn't argue that about how they should be judged. I was responding to those who were.
Until Ingebrigtsen gets close to Cheptegei's wr he has a major gap in his 5k resume. Cheptegei, for his part, needs a global title over the distance. But he currently remains significantly faster than a runner who has only beaten 13 min once.
No, it's not a major gap in his resume to be top 20 all time in the event. Not cracking the top 50, like Mo Farah, is a major gap. But somehow that doesn't apply to Farah, only to Jakob.
Top 20 when he is running in the era of supershoes and wavelight doesn't count for much if the argument is that he is one of the all-time greats over the distance. He has beaten 13 mins only once. Moorcroft ran 13 minutes nearly 40 years ago. If Ingebrigtsen hadn't run faster than 3:31 over the 1500 would he be one of the greats at that distance?
No, it's not a major gap in his resume to be top 20 all time in the event. Not cracking the top 50, like Mo Farah, is a major gap. But somehow that doesn't apply to Farah, only to Jakob.
Top 20 when he is running in the era of supershoes and wavelight doesn't count for much if the argument is that he is one of the all-time greats over the distance. He has beaten 13 mins only once. Moorcroft ran 13 minutes nearly 40 years ago. If Ingebrigtsen hadn't run faster than 3:31 over the 1500 would he be one of the greats at that distance?
Running in the era of supershoes and wavelights means it's easier for more people to run fast times, yet only 19 people are ahead of him. When Farah set his PB back in 2011, he had 24 people ahead of him in the all time rankings. Your claim makes the opposite argument of what you think it does.
And yes, Jakob would be one of the greats in the 1500 if he had 3 global golds and 3 European champs golds in the event, even if he had only run 3:31, because championships are more important than fast times.
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What do you think is next for Chep? Does he look at this result and question his decision to leave the track? Or does he dig in and keep hammering out marathons until he gets it right? I selfishly hope he returns to the track and attempts to defend all his world titles.
Top 20 when he is running in the era of supershoes and wavelight doesn't count for much if the argument is that he is one of the all-time greats over the distance. He has beaten 13 mins only once. Moorcroft ran 13 minutes nearly 40 years ago. If Ingebrigtsen hadn't run faster than 3:31 over the 1500 would he be one of the greats at that distance?
Running in the era of supershoes and wavelights means it's easier for more people to run fast times, yet only 19 people are ahead of him. When Farah set his PB back in 2011, he had 24 people ahead of him in the all time rankings. Your claim makes the opposite argument of what you think it does.
And yes, Jakob would be one of the greats in the 1500 if he had 3 global golds and 3 European champs golds in the event, even if he had only run 3:31, because championships are more important than fast times.
You've just said it is easier for Ingebrigtsen than Farah to run fast times because Ingebrigtsen is running in the era of supershoes and wavelight. Bringing Farah into the discussion about time is hardly relevant today in any case, when he ran without supershoes or wavelight and when his championship accomplishments over 5k still far exceed the Norwegian's. But by the measure of time in the event Ingebrigtsen has a long way to go to become one of the greats at this distance. If he doesn't beat 12:35 - forget it.
3:31 today definitely wouldn't put him amongst the great 1500 runners, even with the medals he has. He merely becomes a slightly better Centro.
No, it's not a major gap in his resume to be top 20 all time in the event. Not cracking the top 50, like Mo Farah, is a major gap. But somehow that doesn't apply to Farah, only to Jakob.
Top 20 when he is running in the era of supershoes and wavelight doesn't count for much if the argument is that he is one of the all-time greats over the distance. He has beaten 13 mins only once. Moorcroft ran 13 minutes nearly 40 years ago. If Ingebrigtsen hadn't run faster than 3:31 over the 1500 would he be one of the greats at that distance?
Have you noticed the thread subject? Not everything has to be about Jakob, darling.
Top 20 when he is running in the era of supershoes and wavelight doesn't count for much if the argument is that he is one of the all-time greats over the distance. He has beaten 13 mins only once. Moorcroft ran 13 minutes nearly 40 years ago. If Ingebrigtsen hadn't run faster than 3:31 over the 1500 would he be one of the greats at that distance?
Have you noticed the thread subject? Not everything has to be about Jakob, darling.
Say that to those who can't help themselves responding to my posts. Like you.