Is this kind of like a correct statement (natural immunity to COVID is effective) that is only correct in light of evidence *uncovered* in the future (by recalcitrant, hesitant, dogmatic scientists no less) is not truth?
1) "Effective" is not a binary measurement, that is, the better question is "how effective is 'natural immunity'" against a second infection.
2) Clearly one has no objective metric for how effective previous infection is against mitigating the effects of a second infection until such data has been collected and analyzed. It's a reasonable hypothesis, based on our collective understanding of viral infection, that acquired immunity is a thing, but in the case of a novel virus an effectiveness that is initially unquantifiable, and poorly bounded.
3) The effectiveness of the vaccines, given that they had gone through controlled trials at the time the EUA was issued, was reasonably well known and well bounded.
On this, recommending broad vaccination to include those with 'natural immunity' is not an unreasonable course of action.
In retrospect, we have evidence that vaccination even following acquiring 'natural immunity' that vaccination improves outcomes, and that immunity from both 'natural immunity' and vaccination wane with time and the emergence of new variants of the virus which lends support to the previous and current vaccine recommendations.
1060 days have passed since my brief illness after being infected with the Omicron variant of Covid-19.
Zero-dose unvaccinated me hasn't been sick in those 1060 days.
1) "Effective" is not a binary measurement, that is, the better question is "how effective is 'natural immunity'" against a second infection.
2) Clearly one has no objective metric for how effective previous infection is against mitigating the effects of a second infection until such data has been collected and analyzed. It's a reasonable hypothesis, based on our collective understanding of viral infection, that acquired immunity is a thing, but in the case of a novel virus an effectiveness that is initially unquantifiable, and poorly bounded.
3) The effectiveness of the vaccines, given that they had gone through controlled trials at the time the EUA was issued, was reasonably well known and well bounded.
On this, recommending broad vaccination to include those with 'natural immunity' is not an unreasonable course of action.
In retrospect, we have evidence that vaccination even following acquiring 'natural immunity' that vaccination improves outcomes, and that immunity from both 'natural immunity' and vaccination wane with time and the emergence of new variants of the virus which lends support to the previous and current vaccine recommendations.
1060 days have passed since my brief illness after being infected with the Omicron variant of Covid-19.
Zero-dose unvaccinated me hasn't been sick in those 1060 days.
Natural immunity is REAL immunity.
I got double vaxxed, COVID twice, and have been sick once a month for the past year and a half. Did I get scammed??
Is this kind of like a correct statement (natural immunity to COVID is effective) that is only correct in light of evidence *uncovered* in the future (by recalcitrant, hesitant, dogmatic scientists no less) is not truth?
1) "Effective" is not a binary measurement, that is, the better question is "how effective is 'natural immunity'" against a second infection.
2) Clearly one has no objective metric for how effective previous infection is against mitigating the effects of a second infection until such data has been collected and analyzed. It's a reasonable hypothesis, based on our collective understanding of viral infection, that acquired immunity is a thing, but in the case of a novel virus an effectiveness that is initially unquantifiable, and poorly bounded.
3) The effectiveness of the vaccines, given that they had gone through controlled trials at the time the EUA was issued, was reasonably well known and well bounded.
On this, recommending broad vaccination to include those with 'natural immunity' is not an unreasonable course of action.
In retrospect, we have evidence that vaccination even following acquiring 'natural immunity' that vaccination improves outcomes, and that immunity from both 'natural immunity' and vaccination wane with time and the emergence of new variants of the virus which lends support to the previous and current vaccine recommendations.
This is a clear and well thought response covering both the science and messaging used. The "hang Fauci" crowd stopped reading at the first sentence. The word "binary" triggers a rage response because they associate it with transgender issues and have no understanding of its actual meaning.
There are plenty of public health jobs available now, and they have dropped the requirement that applicants have 17 cr hrs of basic science!. Why? Because so many public health workers have walked off the job after having their lives threatened by all the yahoos who consider themselves experts. Dr. Fauci said everything that any other epidemiologist would say. All this chatter is just baloney.
False. He's only admitted he PURPOSELY misled the American public on many occasions.
1) He said not to buy masks (he said it was because he wanted to save the for healthcare workers - this was before they mandated we all wear them).
2) He openly lied about the % needed for herd immunity.
3) I think he went out of his way to cover up the where the virus came from and the gain of function funding/research.
I'm not sure if what he did was criminal but the idea that he was some super hero when scientific funding likely caused this disease is laughable to me.
I certainly want investigations of everything related to Peter Daszak.
Just a little reminder that Trump is vaccinated and keeps up his booster shots.
Trump was #1 in line for a Covid Vax. Putin got the Vax by special delivery from Trump. Putin was #2 or might have been #0 depending on the difference in time zones. American paid for this commie's vaccine.
Trump also got life-saving baby-cell treatment (experimental and not approved for human use) after one of his "healthy" worshippers gave him a really nasty version of Covid. Hospitalized and nearly RIP.
Nothing says "I never broke the last" like a blanket pardon.
That said, as I understand it, there's no more 5th amendment protection after receiving a pardon, so the house or senate can drag him into a hearing and demand he delineate every illegal thing he did. If he doesn't answer the subpoena, he can be jailed (like Bannon was).
There are plenty of public health jobs available now, and they have dropped the requirement that applicants have 17 cr hrs of basic science!. Why? Because so many public health workers have walked off the job after having their lives threatened by all the yahoos who consider themselves experts. Dr. Fauci said everything that any other epidemiologist would say. All this chatter is just baloney.
False. He's only admitted he PURPOSELY misled the American public on many occasions.
1) He said not to buy masks (he said it was because he wanted to save the for healthcare workers - this was before they mandated we all wear them).
2) He openly lied about the % needed for herd immunity.
3) I think he went out of his way to cover up the where the virus came from and the gain of function funding/research.
I'm not sure if what he did was criminal but the idea that he was some super hero when scientific funding likely caused this disease is laughable to me.
I certainly want investigations of everything related to Peter Daszak.
1. Your own statement shows he was not lying. He wanted healthcare workers to have them in the most toxic environment so they could help the maximum number of people and ther were not enough for everyone.
2. Any herd immunity numbers given were based on previous diseases. So this was not a lie, but may or may not have been found inaccurate later.
3. Did he or others destroy documents, bribe or threaten people for silence? That is a cover up.
It is clear why so many right wing conspiracies are amplified on this forum when the site owner is openly stating them.
Nothing says "I never broke the last" like a blanket pardon.
That said, as I understand it, there's no more 5th amendment protection after receiving a pardon, so the house or senate can drag him into a hearing and demand he delineate every illegal thing he did. If he doesn't answer the subpoena, he can be jailed (like Bannon was).
1060 days have passed since my brief illness after being infected with the Omicron variant of Covid-19.
Zero-dose unvaccinated me hasn't been sick in those 1060 days.
Natural immunity is REAL immunity.
A study of one has a value of zero. The NIH and CDC have hundreds of millions of data points showing vaccine effectiveness.
IN other words, ignore your own experience and believe the authorities.
The ones who told as take the jab abnd you won't get Covid and who lied about the origin of the disease, who made up the six foot social distancing, locked us down, mandated the jab.
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
The fact you whiney red-pilled dopes are crying foul over Biden doing this yet bend over gladly for Trump and look past every single moment he's bent the law, broken the law, or clearly doesn't even consider the law is wildly hilarious.
And spare me the "well show me the evidence line". Google is free and your cognitive dissonance about him being a "good God fearing Christian" won't spare you from reality.
The fact you whiney red-pilled dopes are crying foul over Biden doing this yet bend over gladly for Trump and look past every single moment he's bent the law, broken the law, or clearly doesn't even consider the law is wildly hilarious.
And spare me the "well show me the evidence line". Google is free and your cognitive dissonance about him being a "good God fearing Christian" won't spare you from reality.
Biden pardons Hunter after claiming he wouldn't and the dems pointing to that promise not to as proving they are the party of law.
The fact you whiney red-pilled dopes are crying foul over Biden doing this yet bend over gladly for Trump and look past every single moment he's bent the law, broken the law, or clearly doesn't even consider the law is wildly hilarious.
And spare me the "well show me the evidence line". Google is free and your cognitive dissonance about him being a "good God fearing Christian" won't spare you from reality.
Biden pardons Hunter after claiming he wouldn't and the dems pointing to that promise not to as proving they are the party of law.
Your response?
But Trump
Hahahahahaha....seriously? That is your response? Biden broke his promise??? And Trump has never broken a promise ever?? Hahahahahha. You big baby. Enjoy the non-lubed pounding Trump is going to give you with every promise he breaks over the next 4 years. God you are so predictable.
The entire Covid fiasco was nothing more than a political stunt perpetuated by a bunch of loser democrats to gain power. no scientist has ever isolated any Covid. People may have gotten sick and died and blah blah blah, but it was not Covid. Possibly this man made disease attached to other illnesses, but Covid, in and of itself, has never been isolated or proven.
of course he will pardon Fauci, because it’s one crook pardoning another. thank God for MA6A! stop this nonsense
The primary reason so many people give Fauci the benefit of the doubt is because of the pro-Fauci media-blitz that the corporate media put on for him for years. Time magazine cover, interviews all the time, newspaper puff pieces, etc.
The pro-Fauci people don't even realize why they are supporting him - it's just been imprinted in their minds (just like BLM was, and Ukraine was, and Hamas was).
But every so often the veil is pierced:
1. The media saying Biden was "at the top of his game" and was sharper than anyone on his staff, etc. Ultimately that was a complete media lie that possibly cost Dems the presidency.
2. JD Vance is "weird". Then JD goes on a series of long-interview podcasts and comes off as the most normal, thoughtful, intelligent person ever.
3. Kalama was a 'joy' and the second coming of Obama. In reality: she didn't have a personality, couldn't think on her feet, and probably has/had a bit of a drinking problem.
How many times can the media fool you? Fauci is not a good guy. Dems...?
1) No. The media reported that people thought biden was too old and people didn't like him. Both were true.
2) Maybe he's not weird. And he is smart and thoughtful. But hes a duplicitous snake who sold his soul for a man he repeatedly and correctly identified as pure cancer.
3) Did you watch Kamala stand on her feet and eviscerate your god king?
the "left" isn't as stupid or monolithic as you think. And I don't think those on the right are wrong about everything. But you've eliminated all doubt as to your status as a fool.
There are plenty of public health jobs available now, and they have dropped the requirement that applicants have 17 cr hrs of basic science!. Why? Because so many public health workers have walked off the job after having their lives threatened by all the yahoos who consider themselves experts. Dr. Fauci said everything that any other epidemiologist would say. All this chatter is just baloney.
False. He's only admitted he PURPOSELY misled the American public on many occasions.
1) He said not to buy masks (he said it was because he wanted to save the for healthcare workers - this was before they mandated we all wear them).
2) He openly lied about the % needed for herd immunity.
3) I think he went out of his way to cover up the where the virus came from and the gain of function funding/research.
I'm not sure if what he did was criminal but the idea that he was some super hero when scientific funding likely caused this disease is laughable to me.
I certainly want investigations of everything related to Peter Daszak.
1) Was stupid posturing and a big mistake
2) Not a lie - no one knew the threshold for herd immunity. If you tell your runners to go out at 4:45 and they blow up do you say "well I lied to try and get you to PR"
3) There is no evidence the virus was a result of GoF research, it's possible it was a lab leak but thats far cry from it being a deliberately engineered virus.
The entire Covid fiasco was nothing more than a political stunt perpetuated by a bunch of loser democrats to gain power. no scientist has ever isolated any Covid. People may have gotten sick and died and blah blah blah, but it was not Covid. Possibly this man made disease attached to other illnesses, but Covid, in and of itself, has never been isolated or proven.
of course he will pardon Fauci, because it’s one crook pardoning another. thank God for MA6A! stop this nonsense
What do you mean its never been isolated? We have EM images? We have a genome? We have casual data showing how strains evolve and spread? Vaccination with specific components of the virus works...
Your crazy comes out sometimes... I'd do a better job hiding it.