Turning what age hits you the hardest?

You didnt like what I said, but you know it's true.

Name calling wont change biology.

Spoken like a true modern day woman. Lol. That's a big myth that's already been busted about what modern day women look for in a man. 😆

It's combined middle-aged, seniors & elderly that are chewing up the medical resources. According to this research, people 55 & over accounted for 55% of total health spending despite making up only 31% of the population. Really nothing new there as 50s seems to be when preventable health conditions really start soaring (e.g. heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc.).

healthsystemtracker.org

How do health expenditures vary across the population? - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker

Krutika Amin

In a given year, a small portion of the population is responsible for a very large percentage of total health spending. We tend to focus on averages when discussing health spending, but individuals’ health status – and thus t...

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You have no idea what you're talking about.The 50 yr old you described there isn't going to get the "30yo hottie" unless he also has the looks & height in addition to those other attributes (i.e. an older "Chad"). Why do think a lot of these older guys in great shape are also getting hair transplants, botox, skin treatments, etc? They're "looksmaxxing" to make them more attractive to the younger gals (no surprises there. Lol). "30yo hotties" are very picky & feel entitled to a "Chad" with the all the attention & validation they get on social media & dating apps these days. 😉

The exception, of course, would be wealth. The gold diggers & single moms love an older wealthy guy. regardless of what he looks like. They want to lock them down in marriage then later on divorce them. 😉

I implore you to check out the "Dating Delusions" channel, perhaps he can explain it to you better in some of his videos:

This is the stupidest thing I have ever read, but maybe I’ve just lost my mind.

57.

50 isn't too bad, but by 57 you're heading to 60 and that's a monster. Have to consciously keep moving and stop eating whenever you feel like it

M65 here. There is a reason the 50+ thread has been in existence for 13 years. And it even existed several years before it was saved from disappearing each week. The vast majority of runners turning 50 notice something huge happens to their body around this time.
Here are three things I’ve noticed happening as you near 50:

1) Your actual muscle fibers become weaker. Is it hormones, cellular metabolism? I’m actually not certain. I keep detailed records. I had certain workouts that were predictive of performance in races. First I noticed I COULD still hit the workout but it no longer predicted the race time. Before 50 I could always over-perform in races better than most workouts predicted. Soon though, I could neither hit the workout nor perform in races. This hit me at about 51.

2) It took longer to recover from workouts. I found myself repeating “If I could just freakin train I’d get faster”. But that never happened. I could no longer hit those hard workouts twice or even three times a week.

3) My injury rate skyrocketed around 49. I seemed to stay injured all the time. I had a devastating heel spur at age 53 that took over 2 years to heal. In truth, my racing body NEVER got over that.

Here is the most disturbing part of 50+ running. A very large number of people simply disappear from the running scene.

If you look at websites devoted to masters running you will see folks who are performing at very high levels. This is a huge statistical anomaly where only the extreme outliers are represented. For every 90+ age-graded masters you read about there are thousands and thousands who dropped out of running. So you only see the extreme end of the spectrum and it is grossly not representative of the reality of running after 50.

A caveat: you may see in some popular running magazines statistics showing more older folks running. The majority of these folks are not competing. They are participating. I mean, that’s actually great, BUT, it does not give us any data on actual athletic performance of older folks.

You are spot on. 50 is just very very different, your body changes, things you could do just 3-4 years ago suddenly become very difficult if not impossible.

And your point about people suddenly just dropping out, is so so so on point. You see guys killing it in their 40s, running great times, competing in Masters championships etc.. then in a few years, they aren't even training, maybe just jogging.

To say, "Age is just a number." to me is very foolish. I know what they are trying to say is that even though you are older you still need to remain active, engaged, etc.. but there's no need to overstate it to make a point. Age is VERY VERY real. Reality is undefeated. There are no 50 year old T&F Olympians and it's not because we all got bored with running fast and decided to do something else.

re; people dropping out of running as they age

I'd love to see some sort of detail on whether marathoning is to blame. And/or mid-distance training.

Seems to me that trying to run fast or doing a lot of hard miles can increase the risk of exiting the sport by injury. Maybe if we 50+ers trained for 5k-10k the filter would be less harsh.

Although I think a big piece of the filter is mental...people just lose interest when they start running so slowly. And of course if you try to run from HS to your 60s that's a lot of miles that catch up to you.

At 57 I'm a winner in the lottery so far...as people disappear, I'm suddenly winning races and have become a force in my area. Fun for me anyway.

I think it would have to be hormonal decline as the primary catalyst. Hormones start declining for most men starting around age 30 (Testosterone, Dehydroepiandrostone, IGF-1, etc).

The Villareal et al study back in 2006 looked at two groups of seniors (65-78 yrs old) that engaged in a structured strength training program for 10 months. Half the cohort received the hormone Dehydroepiandrostone (DHEA) with the other a placebo. At the end of the study, the DHEA group increased strength & lean muscle significantly more than the placebo group:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

DHEA enhances effects of weight training on muscle mass and strength in elderly women and men - PubMed

The plasma levels of dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) and its sulfated form (DHEAS) decline approximately 80% between the ages of 25 and 75 yr. Muscle mass and strength also decrease with aging. Published data on the effects of...

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Also, the iconic "I am longevity" guy uses DHEA & says it significantly improved his physique & performance. And this is a 60 yr old guy that runs, sprints, jumps, hops & maneuvers like a 20 yr old athlete. 😯

Hers what 65 is like. When I was 20 if I tweaked a back muscle I'd be ok in a couple of days. When I was 30 pain and discomfort would last a week.when 40 it would last 2 weeks. At 50 it would hurt for a few weeks and I'd go for Pt. I'm now 65 and tweaked my lower back last month. It still hurts, I can't sit on a soft coach and I'm taking ibuprofen.

About to turn very upper 50s.

Same weight as HS

Gym 3/week, light weights and maintenance

Cant run seriously due to chronic nagging injuries

Cholesterol 195 (ok proportions)

Most importantly, the Old Evenrude still cracks with no warmup

No major transition age, all decades have been as expected and good

I love how you think you can speak for women. You seem like a real winner.

LOL! Keep dreaming.

Just because you don't like reality doesn't mean he's a chauvinist.

You need to live in the world we live in not the one you want to live in.

Sorry, but those are facts. Woman are better looking at age 25 than 40.

So are men, but anyone who cares at the age of 40 is very superficial and living a very small life.

Are you dumb or just argumentative? Woman age harder than men. That's life.

Feel free to exit the thread and not read anymore if this bothers you.

No, they don’t. It depends on the individual person and genetics and lifestyle choices. With that being said, I wouldn’t care if a man thought I didn’t age well. Most women stop caring at a certain age, and it is liberating!