Jakob either had a bad day or even on 10k he would struggle to be world class

LOL!!!!!! Jakob has a habit of playing down WRs before WRs lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't believe you actually don't see the undertones in Jakob's interview statements!!!!!!

When a guy says 'I'm just going in for fun and test my fitness' the actual hidden meaning is 'I'm going to smash that WR'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You feeling me right sir????

Jakob also said the same for Silesia 3k WR. He said he was just going to 'test his fitness' or whatever 'do his best and see how it goes etc'!!!!!!

Thank you. We are a force to be reckoned with though not strictly a 'couple' lol!!!!!!!

nobody can know what would happen with ideal training, but my feeling is that specific training is the icing that gives you a perfect time. but not having it shouldn't turn a world record potential runner into a very mediocre one. Maybe Jakob could have run sub 61 on the day with better pacing. I don't believe sub 60 was in the cards. Maybe perfect training and pacing gets him under 59.

but I just can't see WR territory.

that said, it was one race. it could have been just a really awful day for him. Data obviously isn't close to 100% reliable when you are dealing with a sample size of 1. Maybe Jakob could still be HIM at the hm distance. but the odds are lower today than they were before last Sunday.

The specifics don't really matter sir!!!! Jakob is knows he is supposed to be ready at any moment's call-up to run a great 10k or HM with whatever training he already been doing!!!!! His training is already highly aerobic and for over 10 years.

You mean to say a guy that can run 10k XC over mud, snow, grass can't even run a decent HM on 1st attempt with some limiting conditions??????

Seriously sir?????? Wake the heck up man!!!!!!! I have seen greater physiological debt than 36 hours and over longer distances!!!!!!!!!!

Example: Kenenisa Bekele THE REAL AEROBIC GOAT ACCORDING TO RENATO CANOVA in 2001-2006 4km short course XC and 12km long course XC totaling 16km of running, on bad shoes, the worst muddy courses you ever seen, biggest hills and obstacle courses you ever imagined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On less than 24 hours of rest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Explain yourself sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jakob ran on far easier track surface and flat road course in Copenhagen!!!!!!!! No hills, no mud, supershoes, it was luxurious standards by comparison!!!!!!!!!!!!! Total distance 22.6km but with longer rest of 36 hours !!!!!!!!!!!!

And he was 'asthmatic' by the 6km??????????? Bended over, exhausted, resting, walking, jogging and more resting????? Did Bekele ever get exhausted after his all out sprint in the short-course world xc races before the long course the next day??????? Did we see him yielding like a baby tiger cub in the long race due to exhaustion from the previous day's short race??????

Thank you darling, I would like to appoint you as my newest darling as well on top of Armstrong and Coevett as your comments make the most sense to me out of all the rest of the LRC folks!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with you that not having specific training shouldn't then turn Jakob into a shockingly mediocre and shameful athlete in the HM!!!!!!!! The aerobic capacity should already be in him with whatever aerobic training already done over the past 10 years. In fact, he needs to have that aerobic capacity just to run 3:26:73 for the 1500m and his 3000m WR, that's the same aerobic capacity that SHOULD HAVE brought him to at least a win over Sawe and Kiplimo!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I said that right, at least a 58.xx!!!!!!!! Yes and on the first time of asking and yes on a luxurious 36 hours rest compared to Bekele from 2001-2006 at world XC double in less than 24 hours and higher adrenalin and pressure to perform!!!!!!

Yes he might have an awful day I agree but it doesn't really look like so because firstly he will be the first person to announce to the media "I AM SICK" or 'I AM TIRED" or "I AM DISTRACTED WITH MY BABY AT HOME" etc, you feeling me sir??????

Jakob never has an awful day without him TELLING US he has one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So no I don't buy the theory that Jakob suddenly is having an off day by his own standards however I will add one caveat which follows my anthropogenic RF standards!!!!!!

Running out in the open air along the public roads of a modern city like Copenhagen exposes you to MORE ANTHROPOGENIC RF antennas as compared to running in circles in 1 location!!!!!!! Your body is CUT and ASSAULTED by more biologically debilitating RF in road races than in track races, so that would explain Jakob's off day by my standards. Jakob's high performance physiology and central nervous system was suppressed ever so slightly by RF and hence his shocking 'asthma attack'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jakob wouldn't know this because he doesn't consult my expertise but I will know this for him!!!!

EXACTLY MAN DARLING!!!! Ridiculous the folks on LRC are!!!!!!! Even more ridiculous Jakob's shocking capitulation on the streets of Copenhagen that was filled with gargantuan amount of anthropogenic RF!!!!! Well I meant to say it's not that shocking actually, his body was cut deeply by the numerous RF antennas around the city. That is the only reason that suitably explains his 'asthma attack' from 6km onwards when I saw him breathing like crazy!!!!!!! And his face was looking down at the ground every 1min as if trying to scoop more oxygen into his mouth and nostrils!!!!!!

RF has the power to induce oxygen debt by messing up the tiny microscopic electrical currents in cell mitochondria that transports and carries oxygen molecules and food to the muscles and brain!!!!! Same mechanism that causes CANCER!!!!

Hurray I found the answer folks!!!!!!! Hear hear hear......😋😋😋😋

Of course they weren’t. And it’s not their task to be impressed by Jakob -they should as always concentrate on them selves , and they clearly did. -Sawe got an impressive win and a pb. That was the impressing thing in this race.

But saying all this above: Racing is sometimes about taking a chance -one doesn’t always know how things will turn out. For instance compare this HM to Jakob’s 3000m -he took a chance also in the latter. It was 30 degrees Celsius, wind gusts, he had a thin base training, and he knew he would have to lead when the pacers had finished. -So should he given up and let all come up to a sprint finish..? And the same with the HM -he was clearly insecure, but made a try…

He didn’t take a chance in the 3000m and there was about a zero percent chance he wasn’t going to break 7:20. 7:17 is a phenomenal time and could remain as the WR record for decades to come. Everything was perfect for that race and it wasn't windy. You make it sound like he could have run sub-7:15.

He ran 3:27.73 and won the Olympic 5000m so 3000m is a very good distance for him. The HM is not.

Well it clearly wasn’t in Copenhagen. So can HM nevertheless be his best event? Yes, of course -we don’t know for sure before he priorities it in a year with full base training and maybe some long runs, and rest in the days before the race… Do you really think this was his best effort ever..?

Jakob takes chances also in the shorter distances. -He did so in the OG 1500m (by front running, and doing it too fast), and in WC 5000m in Doha he started his kick to early. And yes, he could have eased and gone only for the victory in the 3000m when he saw the temperature and heard about the wind gusts… It’s easy for you to claim that the WR was doomed when you know how it turned out, but I and not only I thought his chances were spoiled. And for the record: Yes I think he can run significantly faster than 7.17 given his last lap and the weather conditions.

You don’t know if HM is a good event for Jakob or not. Neither do I. You haven’t analysed the context, and are therefore totally swallowed by the moment (one single HM race)…

If I could get Armstronglivs in a room, they’d need DNA to find out who it was when I was through with him.

100% for breaking 7:20?

But 7:17 is phenomenal?

Ne never has run 3:27.73.

For sure 7:17.55 is not his maximum. It was his only real attempt while rested for a super fast time in his career.

You seem to be the only one talking this race seriously. He ran this as an after thought, obviously.

The guys been focusing on other things, if you haven’t noticed.

Probably hasnt done his normal base training in weeks at this point.

Could it be his ‘best event’? Possibly. Is it his best event now after cranking his anaerobic capacity to the max after peaking for a major championship? Of course not.

Listen to the interview on the stream just before the race. This was a throw away done with the race for fun to gin up excitement for the race, as is done in every sport.

Stop being selectively serious

The metabolic profile to run your fastest 3k vs your fastest HM ate not the same

That much should be obvious at this point

He wasn't racing Norwegians. He got roundly beaten by the Africans in the HM. He greatly over-estimated his own abilities - yet again (Paris) - by going out at wr pace and was reduced to a walk just to finish. That isn't "taking a chance" but a big ego who hugely overestimated his abilities. A hobby-jogger could have shown better judgement.

No - he didn't run this race as an "after-thought, obviously". He talked about entering the race some weeks ago, speculated about how he might go and then went with the preplanned wr pace. He clearly thought he could go with the best in the world over this distance. He can't. He was considerably slower than Kerr's effort in the HM - and he is a 1500 specialist. Ingebrigtsen isn't anywhere near as talented as either he or his fans think he is. He is a big-head who embarrassed himself.

how many users are named khamis?

No, Noway rules chess too so he won't be happier watching that.

You confuse "humbled" with "embarrassed".