A real Wesley Keating situation here. Failing a test for epo is more akin to failing an IQ test. Unbelievable he got caught. Sadly there are a lot more kids doping in the ncaa than we’ll ever know. Past and present.
I think you are right. Martin Fagan for example.
I talked to a NCAA coach who told me one year he/she didn't run a runner at NCAAs as he/she thought the runner was on EPO.
Wow. His engine seemed pretty ridiculous at times with him being able to kick despite running races almost entirely in lane 2. Add this to Peter Maru’s reported suspension.
AND exhorting the crowd while in a dead sprint. Gimme a break.
Does anything think this will make programs think twice about recruiting athletes from countries with known doping issues?
Also it kind of negates all those people saying American 16-18 year olds just need to "get faster" to run at big programs like Florida, this is what they are competing against for spots on teams that are shrinking by the second.
That guy is a freshman right? I assume he drops out of college now - as there'd be a bad look for him to be on any type of scholarship. He ruined his life.
How did he ruin his life? What were his options in India before he doped?
Dude was on the cusp of making hundreds of thousands of dollars of year as an Indian mileing phenom (thanks to drugs if this suspension holds up).
Have you ever been to India? It is a very stratified society. The "haves", which this guy was becoming one of, have an opulent, cushy life. Everyone else, the "have nots", lives in an overcrowded hell hole. And that's not even counting the untouchables who live in cardboard box slums with raw sewage running through the gutters. If this bust/suspension holds up, he'll be back down into the ranks of the "have nots" which would have to be brutal after getting a glimpse of the good life as an international athletics star.
Significantly or insignificantly, consistent testing was done in the NCAA? We really have to wonder if we have a baseball type Balco situation on our hands.
A real Wesley Keating situation here. Failing a test for epo is more akin to failing an IQ test. Unbelievable he got caught. Sadly there are a lot more kids doping in the ncaa than we’ll ever know. Past and present.
I think you are right. Martin Fagan for example.
I talked to a NCAA coach who told me one year he/she didn't run a runner at NCAAs as he/she thought the runner was on EPO.
What would happen if a NCAA runner tested positive for EPO in an event like XC (not a relay)? Would the team be DQ'ed or would his individual result be DQ'ed and the 6th man of his team takes his place?
I’m not saying it’s a good system but fwiw there are random drug tests in the ncaa. They show up at your college, pick a few athletes, and you have to go take the pee test. One of my teammates was chosen last year.
Just making sure you have the facts right. It’s not that the don’t test… it’s that they don’t thoroughly test.
It would be interesting if usada did an out of the blue testing of all ncaa finalists at the meet itself. My guess is you MAYBE get a couple writers or throwers on T and that’s about it. I’m much more skeptical about distance runners in the ncaa doping. Khan was obvious. Anyone who thought otherwise had their eyes closed. I’m not sure I can think of anyone else who is obvious.
The random NCAA tests are designed to make sure star football players don't have amphetamines, cocaine, and old school anabolics dripping out of their eyeballs.
Like you say even the random tests aren't thorough. They won't catch synthetic Test, EPO, or anything an athlete with half a brain would use.
As far as distance runners go, they almost have to be on something. Goucher and Ritzenhein had more talent and HS credentials than any of the current college stars and they couldn't touch todays college performances on the track. The shoes help but they don't help that much.
I’m not saying it’s a good system but fwiw there are random drug tests in the ncaa. They show up at your college, pick a few athletes, and you have to go take the pee test. One of my teammates was chosen last year.
Just making sure you have the facts right. It’s not that the don’t test… it’s that they don’t thoroughly test.
It would be interesting if usada did an out of the blue testing of all ncaa finalists at the meet itself. My guess is you MAYBE get a couple writers or throwers on T and that’s about it. I’m much more skeptical about distance runners in the ncaa doping. Khan was obvious. Anyone who thought otherwise had their eyes closed. I’m not sure I can think of anyone else who is obvious.
You'd have to be a moron to fail an in competition test. Doesn't EPO only show for 2-3 days anyway if you're not taking 1990s Moroccan levels? Get off the juice before regionals, load up after (maintenance), and then don't take anything the week of. Deca can stay in your system for up to a year but not EPO...
And isn't the only people tested the ones running olympic. / world qualifying times?
I talked to a NCAA coach who told me one year he/she didn't run a runner at NCAAs as he/she thought the runner was on EPO.
What would happen if a NCAA runner tested positive for EPO in an event like XC (not a relay)? Would the team be DQ'ed or would his individual result be DQ'ed and the 6th man of his team takes his place?
After Semoy Hackett was banned in 2012 LSU had their national championship from that year vacated. I assume the same thing would happen in the event someone got banned during XC.
I mean he made it pretty obvious pointing to the crowd and hamming it up on the homestretch while world class college athletes were struggling and dying next to him. He would stick his chain in his mouth and rip past dudes like they were standing still-it was too good to be true but made for good theatre and clips to play back to him if he ever goes back to social media. Good riddance.
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That Florida distance coach is a menace. I guessed the only way to break through the collegiate scene is to encourage your athletes to do whatever it takes to win.
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