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Bet he never got laid or tasted the sweet sweet poontang, and opted for suicide by cop
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Never got laid wrote:
Bet he never got laid or tasted the sweet sweet poontang
So, he would fit right in on this site?
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The left has said Donald Trump must be stopped. They have tried to bankrupt him, impeach him, take him off the ballot in multiple states, throw him in jail in 4 BS trials, call him evil, constantly say he is a threat to democracy and Hitler, Biden recently said we need to put a bullseye on him know wonder this happened. Then the same left comes out after the attempted assassination and says we all need to dial down the rhetoric and there is no place for political violence. If they truly believed Trump was Hitler they should be supporting the shooter - the reason they are not supporting the shooter is they knew their Hitler comparison was absurd. Just another one of their many lies (Russia, Charlottesville, bloodbath, 51 intelligent agents, etc etc ) TRUMP 2024
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Crooks' dad was a Republican, had a profile at the Trump campaign as a strong supporter and had Trump signs in his yard. The dad was also a gun collector and would go to the range with Crooks to practice shooting. Crooks was reported to have strong conservative beliefs when he was in high school. But nothing indicated any recent political activities. He completed an associates at a community college and worked at a nursing home. The plot to assassinate Trump seemed to have unfolded in just the 48 hours before the shooting with Crooks buying a ladder and additional ammunition. He even told his work he would miss a day before the Trump rally.
Crooks was badly bullied in high school, had few friends and was into guns. He was even called "school shooter" in high school. If he had shot up his high school, he would fit the profile for a school shooter pretty closely.
Crooks left no manifesto. Did not try to live stream the shooting or even had any sort of social media presence. If there was a political reason for Crooks trying to shoot Trump, it looks like only he knew what that was.
What is interesting is that his dad called police the day of the shooting because Crooks was missing and took his dad's gun. You do not call the police on your son because he took one of your guns unless you think your son is going to hurt someone. That then raises the question of whether the assassination attempt was not political at all, but actually something personal. Did Crooks try to assassinate Trump because he was mad at his dad? Or was it a John Lennon deal where Crooks was a Trump fan but became disillusioned with something Trump did? Or was this just a school shooter who wanted to do something even bigger?
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Precious Roy wrote:
Crooks' dad was a Republican, had a profile at the Trump campaign as a strong supporter and had Trump signs in his yard. The dad was also a gun collector and would go to the range with Crooks to practice shooting. Crooks was reported to have strong conservative beliefs when he was in high school. But nothing indicated any recent political activities. He completed an associates at a community college and worked at a nursing home. The plot to assassinate Trump seemed to have unfolded in just the 48 hours before the shooting with Crooks buying a ladder and additional ammunition. He even told his work he would miss a day before the Trump rally.
Crooks was badly bullied in high school, had few friends and was into guns. He was even called "school shooter" in high school. If he had shot up his high school, he would fit the profile for a school shooter pretty closely.
Crooks left no manifesto. Did not try to live stream the shooting or even had any sort of social media presence. If there was a political reason for Crooks trying to shoot Trump, it looks like only he knew what that was.
What is interesting is that his dad called police the day of the shooting because Crooks was missing and took his dad's gun. You do not call the police on your son because he took one of your guns unless you think your son is going to hurt someone. That then raises the question of whether the assassination attempt was not political at all, but actually something personal. Did Crooks try to assassinate Trump because he was mad at his dad? Or was it a John Lennon deal where Crooks was a Trump fan but became disillusioned with something Trump did? Or was this just a school shooter who wanted to do something even bigger?
Wrong. See above.
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Its Monday wrote:
Tell me again how many platforms Trump has to speak on, and how many there are in total? Just to put it in perspective....Trump has about 2-5 vs 100+ for msm. Trump may make one off the wall comment, but that comment along with added accompanying histrionics is then amplified 100x.
Every X'eet and Truth Social post he makes gets its own headline. Seems to me like the "msm" is giving him a bigger platform than anyone.
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Crooks' Motive. wrote:
Newname wrote:
By the way, what rifle training did this kid have?
I have seen nothing on it
I'm curious about that, myself.
Does it really matter - in another thread multiple posters cited multiple sources that it would take '5 mins' to train for this particular shot.
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he also donated to act bIue wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
Crooks' dad was a Republican, had a profile at the Trump campaign as a strong supporter and had Trump signs in his yard. The dad was also a gun collector and would go to the range with Crooks to practice shooting. Crooks was reported to have strong conservative beliefs when he was in high school. But nothing indicated any recent political activities. He completed an associates at a community college and worked at a nursing home. The plot to assassinate Trump seemed to have unfolded in just the 48 hours before the shooting with Crooks buying a ladder and additional ammunition. He even told his work he would miss a day before the Trump rally.
Crooks was badly bullied in high school, had few friends and was into guns. He was even called "school shooter" in high school. If he had shot up his high school, he would fit the profile for a school shooter pretty closely.
Crooks left no manifesto. Did not try to live stream the shooting or even had any sort of social media presence. If there was a political reason for Crooks trying to shoot Trump, it looks like only he knew what that was.
What is interesting is that his dad called police the day of the shooting because Crooks was missing and took his dad's gun. You do not call the police on your son because he took one of your guns unless you think your son is going to hurt someone. That then raises the question of whether the assassination attempt was not political at all, but actually something personal. Did Crooks try to assassinate Trump because he was mad at his dad? Or was it a John Lennon deal where Crooks was a Trump fan but became disillusioned with something Trump did? Or was this just a school shooter who wanted to do something even bigger?
Wrong. See above.
The BBC is reporting that his dad was considered a "top 20" Trump supporter of over 1,900 families in their area (from the Trump campaign's data profile used for targeting voters and pushing voter turnout), largely based on the number and type of guns in the home and his status as a hunter. When you own about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle, and hunt, we should all recognize that you are not someone the Dems are encouraging to "get out and vote."
Whether he had signs or not (and I certainly don't know the truth there), he (the dad) was seen by the Trump campaign as "one of our guys."
But a parent's politics do not always extend to the son.
And, as I have written before, I think this mentally ill young man would might have taken a shot at Biden, had he been standing on that stage. I'd guess this was a proxy for a school shooting, with the goal being to "matter in this world" for once.
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RossiCheated wrote:
The BBC is reporting that his dad was considered a "top 20" Trump supporter of over 1,900 families in their area (from the Trump campaign's data profile used for targeting voters and pushing voter turnout), largely based on the number and type of guns in the home and his status as a hunter. When you own about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle, and hunt, we should all recognize that you are not someone the Dems are encouraging to "get out and vote."
Whether he had signs or not (and I certainly don't know the truth there), he (the dad) was seen by the Trump campaign as "one of our guys."
But a parent's politics do not always extend to the son.
And, as I have written before, I think this mentally ill young man would might have taken a shot at Biden, had he been standing on that stage. I'd guess this was a proxy for a school shooting, with the goal being to "matter in this world" for once.
Just yesterday you incorrectly claimed the $15 donation to Act Blue was from a different Thomas Crooks. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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"I walk by here all the time, other neighbors do," Amy added. "You will not find one neighbor that will confirm or ever say they saw those signs in the yard."
"I'm on a Republican committee here in Bethel Park," Holly said. "I'm a committee woman, and I door-knock everywhere: for [2022 U.S. Senate nominee Dr. Mehmet] Oz, for [2022 gubernatorial nominee State Sen. Doug] Mastriano, for Trump, for all of them," she said.Holly said she had never door-knocked at the Crooks' home; campaigns and activists often have access to voter rolls with likely voters of respective parties.
"I know who the Republicans are. I mean, he's not on the list," she said.
Crooks' mother, Mary, is registered as a Democrat, while his father is registered as a libertarian.32 -
he also donated to act bIue wrote:
RossiCheated wrote:
The BBC is reporting that his dad was considered a "top 20" Trump supporter of over 1,900 families in their area (from the Trump campaign's data profile used for targeting voters and pushing voter turnout), largely based on the number and type of guns in the home and his status as a hunter. When you own about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle, and hunt, we should all recognize that you are not someone the Dems are encouraging to "get out and vote."
Whether he had signs or not (and I certainly don't know the truth there), he (the dad) was seen by the Trump campaign as "one of our guys."
But a parent's politics do not always extend to the son.
And, as I have written before, I think this mentally ill young man would might have taken a shot at Biden, had he been standing on that stage. I'd guess this was a proxy for a school shooting, with the goal being to "matter in this world" for once.
Just yesterday you incorrectly claimed the $15 donation to Act Blue was from a different Thomas Crooks. You have no idea what you're talking about.
You are correct that as the reporting changed, I did not keep up. The $15 donation that was in question was almost certainly made by him and I admit that.
Feel free to move on to refuting anything that the BBC is reporting, if you can.
Do you think that a home with a father who hunts, who owns about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle is going to be encouraged to vote by the GOP or the Dems?
(And again, the son does not have to share the politics of the father).
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he also donated to act bIue wrote:
RossiCheated wrote:
The BBC is reporting that his dad was considered a "top 20" Trump supporter of over 1,900 families in their area (from the Trump campaign's data profile used for targeting voters and pushing voter turnout), largely based on the number and type of guns in the home and his status as a hunter. When you own about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle, and hunt, we should all recognize that you are not someone the Dems are encouraging to "get out and vote."
Whether he had signs or not (and I certainly don't know the truth there), he (the dad) was seen by the Trump campaign as "one of our guys."
But a parent's politics do not always extend to the son.
And, as I have written before, I think this mentally ill young man would might have taken a shot at Biden, had he been standing on that stage. I'd guess this was a proxy for a school shooting, with the goal being to "matter in this world" for once.
Just yesterday you incorrectly claimed the $15 donation to Act Blue was from a different Thomas Crooks. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The thing about the Trump campaign targeting (no pun intended) a database of gun owning hunters to get out the message to join the cause sounds legit.
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RossiCheated wrote:
he also donated to act bIue wrote:
Just yesterday you incorrectly claimed the $15 donation to Act Blue was from a different Thomas Crooks. You have no idea what you're talking about.
You are correct that as the reporting changed, I did not keep up. The $15 donation that was in question was almost certainly made by him and I admit that.
Feel free to move on to refuting anything that the BBC is reporting, if you can.
Do you think that a home with a father who hunts, who owns about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle is going to be encouraged to vote by the GOP or the Dems?
(And again, the son does not have to share the politics of the father).
Link to BBC claims?
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he also donated to act bIue wrote:
RossiCheated wrote:
You are correct that as the reporting changed, I did not keep up. The $15 donation that was in question was almost certainly made by him and I admit that.
Feel free to move on to refuting anything that the BBC is reporting, if you can.
Do you think that a home with a father who hunts, who owns about 20 guns, including an AR-15-style rifle is going to be encouraged to vote by the GOP or the Dems?
(And again, the son does not have to share the politics of the father).
Link to BBC claims?
I'll give you the whole thing and spare you and everyone else a click:
15 Jul 2024
REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman’s family
Siobhan Kennedy Washington CorrespondentThe family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks was among millions of voters profiled by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign
The owner of the rifle used to shoot at Donald Trump had been identified by the former president’s campaign as a strong republican, likely gun owner and “hunter”, as revealed today by Channel 4 News.In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.
It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.This database was first obtained and revealed by Channel 4 News in 2020.
The programme can now reveal the information was compiled as part of a secretive project aiming to identify millions of gun owners in America who could be targeted with pro-gun rights messages in the lead-up to the 2016 election campaign.On Saturday Thomas Crooks, 20, attempted to murder former president Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
It has emerged that the AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle he used was legally purchased months earlier by his father Matthew, 53. The family is cooperating with the investigating authorities.
The FBI said it had also recovered explosive devices in the car used by Thomas Crooks which was parked near the scene and a second “suspicious device” in the family home.
There is no suggestion that any member of the Crooks family had knowledge of the assassination attempt by recent high school graduate Thomas Crooks or that they permitted the illegal use of weapons by him.
Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign database, obtained by Channel 4 News in 2020, lists the assailant’s parents Matthew, and his wife Mary, 53, as living at a residence in the borough of Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh.They were among 6.7 million people in the swing state of Pennsylvania profiled for their likely ownership of firearms. Both scored highly, with Crook’s father Matthew given particularly high scores.
Data scientists can analyse relatively small original datasets to determine the characteristics that would make someone likely, for example, to be a gun owner. Using machine learning they can generate models that match those characteristics across the population, assigning individuals a likelihood score.
The gun-related profiles which appear in the 2016 Trump campaign database range between 0 – meaning no likelihood – and 1 – a certainty.
Matthew Crooks scored highly across a range of gun-related models including: 0.99 for the likelihood of returning a warranty card for a firearms purchase; 0.95 for the likelihood of pursuing hunting sports; and 0.94 for the likelihood of shopping at the hunting retailer
Overall, averaged across all three of these measures, out of more than 19,000 people in Bethel Park, Matthew Crooks was among the top 20 highest scoring individuals.In total, the data technique was deployed in ten swing states – scoring a total of around 50 million individuals – to find voters who could be susceptible to political messages about gun-rights, a bedrock issue in all of Donald Trump’s presidential campaigns.
While the Crooks family were assigned scores derived from models, such models are not necessarily accurate and may not reflect the Crooks family’s actual views or gun ownership at that time.
Channel 4 News has approached the Trump campaign for comment.
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RossiCheated wrote:
I'll give you the whole thing and spare you and everyone else a click:
15 Jul 2024
REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman’s family
Siobhan Kennedy Washington CorrespondentThe family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks was among millions of voters profiled by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign
The owner of the rifle used to shoot at Donald Trump had been identified by the former president’s campaign as a strong republican, likely gun owner and “hunter”, as revealed today by Channel 4 News.
In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.
It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.This database was first obtained and revealed by Channel 4 News in 2020.
The programme can now reveal the information was compiled as part of a secretive project aiming to identify millions of gun owners in America who could be targeted with pro-gun rights messages in the lead-up to the 2016 election campaign.On Saturday Thomas Crooks, 20, attempted to murder former president Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
It has emerged that the AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle he used was legally purchased months earlier by his father Matthew, 53. The family is cooperating with the investigating authorities.
The FBI said it had also recovered explosive devices in the car used by Thomas Crooks which was parked near the scene and a second “suspicious device” in the family home.
There is no suggestion that any member of the Crooks family had knowledge of the assassination attempt by recent high school graduate Thomas Crooks or that they permitted the illegal use of weapons by him.
Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign database, obtained by Channel 4 News in 2020, lists the assailant’s parents Matthew, and his wife Mary, 53, as living at a residence in the borough of Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh.They were among 6.7 million people in the swing state of Pennsylvania profiled for their likely ownership of firearms. Both scored highly, with Crook’s father Matthew given particularly high scores.
Data scientists can analyse relatively small original datasets to determine the characteristics that would make someone likely, for example, to be a gun owner. Using machine learning they can generate models that match those characteristics across the population, assigning individuals a likelihood score.
The gun-related profiles which appear in the 2016 Trump campaign database range between 0 – meaning no likelihood – and 1 – a certainty.
Matthew Crooks scored highly across a range of gun-related models including: 0.99 for the likelihood of returning a warranty card for a firearms purchase; 0.95 for the likelihood of pursuing hunting sports; and 0.94 for the likelihood of shopping at the hunting retailer
Overall, averaged across all three of these measures, out of more than 19,000 people in Bethel Park, Matthew Crooks was among the top 20 highest scoring individuals.In total, the data technique was deployed in ten swing states – scoring a total of around 50 million individuals – to find voters who could be susceptible to political messages about gun-rights, a bedrock issue in all of Donald Trump’s presidential campaigns.
Channel 4 News has approached the Trump campaign for comment.
Interesting article, but it isn't a BBC article like you claimed. The article I provided a link to above shows that Mr. Crooks is a registered libertarian, but kudos to the Trump campaign seeking his vote back in 2016.
You also failed to bold this important part of the article:
While the Crooks family were assigned scores derived from models, such models are not necessarily accurate and may not reflect the Crooks family’s actual views or gun ownership at that time.
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he also donated to act bIue wrote:
"I walk by here all the time, other neighbors do," Amy added. "You will not find one neighbor that will confirm or ever say they saw those signs in the yard."
"I'm on a Republican committee here in Bethel Park," Holly said. "I'm a committee woman, and I door-knock everywhere: for [2022 U.S. Senate nominee Dr. Mehmet] Oz, for [2022 gubernatorial nominee State Sen. Doug] Mastriano, for Trump, for all of them," she said.Holly said she had never door-knocked at the Crooks' home; campaigns and activists often have access to voter rolls with likely voters of respective parties.
"I know who the Republicans are. I mean, he's not on the list," she said.
Crooks' mother, Mary, is registered as a Democrat, while his father is registered as a libertarian.21 -
he also donated to act bIue wrote:
RossiCheated wrote:
I'll give you the whole thing and spare you and everyone else a click:
15 Jul 2024
REVEALED: Trump campaign secret data on gunman’s family
Siobhan Kennedy Washington CorrespondentThe family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks was among millions of voters profiled by Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign
The owner of the rifle used to shoot at Donald Trump had been identified by the former president’s campaign as a strong republican, likely gun owner and “hunter”, as revealed today by Channel 4 News.
In 2016 the Trump campaign built a database profiling millions of voters in key battleground states – including the family of Trump’s would-be assassin Thomas Crooks.
It found that both the parents of Thomas Crooks were very likely to be gun owners and shared other gun-related lifestyle indicators.This database was first obtained and revealed by Channel 4 News in 2020.
The programme can now reveal the information was compiled as part of a secretive project aiming to identify millions of gun owners in America who could be targeted with pro-gun rights messages in the lead-up to the 2016 election campaign.On Saturday Thomas Crooks, 20, attempted to murder former president Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
It has emerged that the AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle he used was legally purchased months earlier by his father Matthew, 53. The family is cooperating with the investigating authorities.
The FBI said it had also recovered explosive devices in the car used by Thomas Crooks which was parked near the scene and a second “suspicious device” in the family home.
There is no suggestion that any member of the Crooks family had knowledge of the assassination attempt by recent high school graduate Thomas Crooks or that they permitted the illegal use of weapons by him.
Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign database, obtained by Channel 4 News in 2020, lists the assailant’s parents Matthew, and his wife Mary, 53, as living at a residence in the borough of Bethel Park, south of Pittsburgh.They were among 6.7 million people in the swing state of Pennsylvania profiled for their likely ownership of firearms. Both scored highly, with Crook’s father Matthew given particularly high scores.
Data scientists can analyse relatively small original datasets to determine the characteristics that would make someone likely, for example, to be a gun owner. Using machine learning they can generate models that match those characteristics across the population, assigning individuals a likelihood score.
The gun-related profiles which appear in the 2016 Trump campaign database range between 0 – meaning no likelihood – and 1 – a certainty.
Matthew Crooks scored highly across a range of gun-related models including: 0.99 for the likelihood of returning a warranty card for a firearms purchase; 0.95 for the likelihood of pursuing hunting sports; and 0.94 for the likelihood of shopping at the hunting retailer
Overall, averaged across all three of these measures, out of more than 19,000 people in Bethel Park, Matthew Crooks was among the top 20 highest scoring individuals.In total, the data technique was deployed in ten swing states – scoring a total of around 50 million individuals – to find voters who could be susceptible to political messages about gun-rights, a bedrock issue in all of Donald Trump’s presidential campaigns.
Channel 4 News has approached the Trump campaign for comment.
Interesting article, but it isn't a BBC article like you claimed. The article I provided a link to above shows that Mr. Crooks is a registered libertarian, but kudos to the Trump campaign seeking his vote back in 2016.
You also failed to bold this important part of the article:
While the Crooks family were assigned scores derived from models, such models are not necessarily accurate and may not reflect the Crooks family’s actual views or gun ownership at that time.
I didn't "fail" to do anything, I highlighted what I felt addressed what I had already written.
We know from other reporting that they owned a slew of guns, including an AR-15-style rifle. But it certainly could be true, although less likely, that someone with such a wealth of guns could vote blue.
And again, importantly, the politics of parents (or the likely politics) do not always extend to their child.
Our best evidence in that regard is that he was a registered Republican that his classmates said would argue conservative positions.
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RossiCheated wrote:
I didn't "fail" to do anything, I highlighted what I felt addressed what I had already written.
We know from other reporting that they owned a slew of guns, including an AR-15-style rifle. But it certainly could be true, although less likely, that someone with such a wealth of guns could vote blue.
And again, importantly, the politics of parents (or the likely politics) do not always extend to their child.
Our best evidence in that regard is that he was a registered Republican that his classmates said would argue conservative positions.
You failed to link the BBC article you mentioned to begin with.
Considering your "best evidence" is that he was a registered Republican and argued conservative positions, I'd have to say that donating actual money to a Democrat cause and trying to put a bullet in Trump's head outweighs your best evidence. You're welcome to your opinion though.
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