With all the talk of replacing Biden now at the convention, can that even be done given that the convention is later than what some states require to get onto their ballots? There were issues just getting Joe on some state ballots because of the convention date.
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long runner wrote:
With all the talk of replacing Biden now at the convention, can that even be done given that the convention is later than what some states require to get onto their ballots? There were issues just getting Joe on some state ballots because of the convention date.
of course it can be done, what do you think would happen if he died?
i don't mean for that to sound snarky
the issue here is that in a democracy we are supposed to at least appear to be choosing our candidates and it doesn't look like the democrat's voters are going to be choosing the candidate that will be representing their party.
no matter if you're repub, dem, independent, etc. this should be a serious concern
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Great example why we need term limits! No one should be in politics that long. He had me when he created 15,000 jobs in his first turn at the mic. We need more quality people in more than two parties. They are out there.
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krispy kremlin._._._._._ wrote:
As a lifelong democrat, I only have one question after tonight's debate:
Who's been running this country for the last three years?
People so incompetent that they still have student loans that need forgiving.
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Theobvyusanswer wrote:
krispy kremlin._._._._._ wrote:
As a lifelong democrat, I only have one question after tonight's debate:
Who's been running this country for the last three years?
People so incompetent that they still have student loans that need forgiving.
Are all red state farmers incompetent?
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Red State Rob wrote:
I can't believe the Trump campaign fell for this trap. It was clear the plan was to replace Biden. This performance was totally predictable. The only reason to have a debate this early was so they would have time to replace him before the convention.
Democrats remember that the media and your party gaslit you for the past 4 years that this was actually a functioning human and its completely obvious he has not been in charge of his own administration. Now after they plan to swap him out with the party bosses preferred candidate rather than having given you a chance to vote in the party primaries. We haven't even talked about how the DNC colluded to take out Bernie the last two election cycles. Your party does not believe in democracy or representing the people. Say what you want about the Republicans but at least a populous candidate who represents the people in the party can actually win take down the establishment of the party.
Crazy conspiracy theory. Do you think they intentionally infected President Biden with a cold too?
Sorry you bought the lies of the MSM bro. But this performance was right in line with how Biden has looked the past few years. Nothing we saw here was the least bit surprising. The presidential debates have been much later in recent history. Why else do you think the Democrats proposed a debate this early. Everyone high up in the DNC knew Biden is falling apart and this would happen.
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Good morning members of the LRC community,
One question: who is running your country right now?
As a previous poster mentioned, even if you are happy with how this administration is running the country (inflation, immigration, etc), we elect specific people into office - and after last night's performance, it's clear Biden isn't in control.
As a lifelong democrat, I'm not concerned about Joe in office for the next 4 years, I'm concerned about him in office for the next 6 months.
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krispy kremlin._._._._._ wrote:
Good morning members of the LRC community,
One question: who is running your country right now?
As a previous poster mentioned, even if you are happy with how this administration is running the country (inflation, immigration, etc), we elect specific people into office - and after last night's performance, it's clear Biden isn't in control.
As a lifelong democrat, I'm not concerned about Joe in office for the next 4 years, I'm concerned about him in office for the next 6 months.
Under this logic we haven't had someone running the country since 2016. Trump was not exactly a policy wonk...
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Trump now leading in New Jersey.
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runasfastasucanforaslongasucan wrote:
Great example why we need term limits! No one should be in politics that long. He had me when he created 15,000 jobs in his first turn at the mic. We need more quality people in more than two parties. They are out there.
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hunter wheres the blow wrote:
Mocazilla wrote:
Any trillionaires in America
A thousand apparently
When you takeaway the word fumbling and look at the bigger issue he is putting forth here is he had full control of government his first two years in office (executive, house and senate). He and the Dems could have easily enacted such a tax structure and did not. Which begs the question: Why not? Is this something that they would really like to implement, or are they simply trying to cater to the whims of their base with no intention of implementing such a policy?
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still bothered wrote:
snowflakes wrote:
Trump is not even answering the questions lol
It even doesn't matter what Trump says. The takeaway from this debate is that Biden is literally on death's door; drooling, confused, mouth agape, totally incoherent.
I don't even know who or what I'd be voting for with Biden. He's clearly not in any position to be in charge of anything, let alone the most powerful country in the world.
As an independent, this destroys any thought of decency I had about the democrat party. There has been evidence that JB has been this way for a while. Rather than come clean and allow this obviously sick man to step down and die in peace, they have paraded his around Weekend at Bernie's style and assured us that he is alert and fit as ever. The democrats has pulled this charade for most of his term Some will say they lied for the greater good - which leads me to wonder what else they lie about when they are convinced they are right.
Don't get me wrong, I hate both of these candidates pretty equally. I don't trust either party, and have policies of both that I absolutely abhor. But for those on the left saying anything is better than Trump - I think lying to the American people to keep someone who is nearly dead in the position of president so that some unknown committee or entity can have the power to make those decisions is an enormous betrayal. Who has been issuing all of the executive orders? Who insists that the border stay wide open? If not Joe Biden, who? What I learned from this debate is that some coward is running our country and committing elder abuse in the process. I do not find the slightest bit of comfort in that. What they have been telling us is not happening is exactly what has been happening.
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Darn republican's who run this site, I tried to get them to post when Jakob's baby girl was delivered a few days ago but they wouldn't post that, but they post this hoping to get a lot of Biden bashing. LMAO!
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Trump and Biden are both bought and paid for by Pfizer. Vote RFK Jr. for real change
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Interesting the American public sees an old man’s mental and physical health failing and unfit for office. But his doctor, staff and political party says his fit. The lack of trust and confidence is on display and being witnessed by the public.
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Slo-Jo wrote:
still bothered wrote:
It even doesn't matter what Trump says. The takeaway from this debate is that Biden is literally on death's door; drooling, confused, mouth agape, totally incoherent.
I don't even know who or what I'd be voting for with Biden. He's clearly not in any position to be in charge of anything, let alone the most powerful country in the world.
As an independent, this destroys any thought of decency I had about the democrat party. There has been evidence that JB has been this way for a while. Rather than come clean and allow this obviously sick man to step down and die in peace, they have paraded his around Weekend at Bernie's style and assured us that he is alert and fit as ever. The democrats has pulled this charade for most of his term Some will say they lied for the greater good - which leads me to wonder what else they lie about when they are convinced they are right.
Don't get me wrong, I hate both of these candidates pretty equally. I don't trust either party, and have policies of both that I absolutely abhor. But for those on the left saying anything is better than Trump - I think lying to the American people to keep someone who is nearly dead in the position of president so that some unknown committee or entity can have the power to make those decisions is an enormous betrayal. Who has been issuing all of the executive orders? Who insists that the border stay wide open? If not Joe Biden, who? What I learned from this debate is that some coward is running our country and committing elder abuse in the process. I do not find the slightest bit of comfort in that. What they have been telling us is not happening is exactly what has been happening.
This.
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The debate was shocking in that whatever cocktail of drugs they've been giving Biden are no longer working. We've seen his mental decline for at least a couple of years, but they've been able to medicate him enough to get him through important speaking events.
That's no longer working.
Look at his March 7 State of the Union speech. Biden spoke (read from the teleprompter) for 65 minutes. Yes, he was just reading, but he didn't mumble and he was able to do it for over an hour. Heck, it's hard for many 80-year-olds to just stand up for 65 minutes without sitting.
The State of the Union was an amazing performance considering his known mental decline. It's been less than four months, but his decline since March has been shocking. Whatever drugs they are using are no longer working.
If he was this bad with a week to prepare, can you imagine what he's like when he's not in public and drugged up?
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