The content lately in the CIM build is getting worse. Not eating enough and doing way too much quality and volume at the same time. Having the dad be the coach and running social media is a bad combo that doesn’t protect the kid from over training and race pressure
About 98 percent of the male population would never run a 4:31 mile no matter how or when they trained. I agree that preteen kids shouldn't be advertised as the next Jim Ryun just because they run a 5:20 milat age 9 but if the kid likes running, let him run.
Not really trying to derail this tread into one of those threads where we argue about what percent of the population can break x time for the mile (and all pat ourselves on the back for the 4:56 mile that somehow makes us special) but there's noway at least ten percent of the male population couldn't break 4:31.
He also ran 9:22 for 3200, which is stronger than 4:31 for 1600. Local kid to me. I wouldn't say he flamed out whatsoever, he just hit his ceiling talent-wise.
But, yeah, all the age-group WR stuff is silly, and those of us who know better roll our eyes when "future Olympian" is thrown around.
He may have been credited for those ag WRs, but there were multiple kids faster than him. In the early 80s, I ran the Azealea Trail 10k in Mobile, Alabama (a certified course). A 12 yo ran 36xx that day. Wesley Paul ran a faster half at that age during a marathon (Houston). Not knocking this young man, but but WRs are bogus.
The content lately in the CIM build is getting worse. Not eating enough and doing way too much quality and volume at the same time. Having the dad be the coach and running social media is a bad combo that doesn’t protect the kid from over training and race pressure
Psycho Dad and Floberg are online buddies. It is true that birds of a feather flock together.
It is super negligent that both of them refer to themselves as running coaches.
This is partially correct. I do want rage. Because the other part is false- ten year olds don’t just go run 7 days a week and then run marathons . This is HEAVILY dad involved. He is coaching her. Like he tells her how far to run and what to do. He is claiming discrimination because Boston won’t let her in. Like he is pushing her dude.
yes I want rage.
You make a false premise to induce rage. nice job.
How dare a father run with his daughter. And how dare he coach her too. This needs to stop immediately. It’s a travesty. Call DHS!
well, literally every sport needs a coach at that age. So being the coach doesn't make him bad. I think you coach them and see where their abilities and desires take them. Devils advocate: Marathon seems maybe OK as a one time thing if they are totally into it. Then maybe back to school team. Im Ok with a lot of things if the kid is directing it and loving it. Can we all agree then that (nearly) every single olympic figure skater and gymnast is "abused" if they choose to have a career then? Because if so talented, they are given the opportunity to train hard and be elite on the world stage by 13 or 14 in some cases? Again, I only mention this because we hold running to a totally different standard than every other sport. Kid runs 20mpw- child abuse. MS kid runs a race- child abuse. Kid runs a 10K. Everyone will burn out. Why is it anyone who competes before HS will "burn out"? But many of us have been running for 20-70 years? We are such hypocrites. Does everyone stop playing basketball, soccer, hockey because they started at 8 or 9 y/o? Nope. Only running do we say this,
I ran in a bunch of races with one or both of the Welsch sisters (Kaytlynn and Heater). Their dad had them running lots of endurance races when they were about 10-12 years old. They were very sweet girls and the local running community was very supportive of them with many runners recognizing them at races and cheering them on. They seemed to have fun out there and never seemed like they were the victims of a tiger dad. But neither of them was able to leverage that early experience in distance running into success in high school or college. And I have seen the same story play out many times over where a parent gets a 10-12 year old out running 1/2s or full marathons, but by HS the kid ends up as an average midpack runner in XC and track. In some cases, it may be burnout. But in most cases I think it is just a fact that early talent in distance running means very little. It is not a sport like golf or tennis where you have to fight your way up through junior tournaments to get a Div I spot. You just have to be able to run fast in HS. And having some experience in junior high is definitely a good idea. But being a top kid at the local half marathon means very little.
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