Just about what was expected from Wiley. Her 2:00.84 from last week was worth 1172 points and her 4:07.32 is worth 1169. I thought she might have a good shot at 3rd but MacKay had a really good run.
Real question whether she would run the 800 or 1500. She might be better relative to the best in the world in the 800, but the US team will be harder to make with Akins, Rogers, Mu etc.
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Just about what was expected from Wiley. Her 2:00.84 from last week was worth 1172 points and her 4:07.32 is worth 1169. I thought she might have a good shot at 3rd but MacKay had a really good run.
Real question whether she would run the 800 or 1500. She might be better relative to the best in the world in the 800, but the US team will be harder to make with Akins, Rogers, Mu etc.
The 1500 is just as stacked. ESP, Mackay, Norris, McGee, Johnson...
The 1500 is just as stacked. ESP, Mackay, Norris, McGee, Johnson...
I foresee Norris doing the 5000 instead of the 1500 and I think McGee is at the end of her time. It will take sub-4 to make the team this summer and she has never once done it. MacKay made a statement tonight.
Overall, Wiley is starting off far ahead of last winter. Her best two performances prior to June last year were only 1148 (2:02.33) and 1133 (4:32.15 mile). Finally hit 1180 at Music City on June 3.
So far this indoor season, her performances are 1172 (2:00.84) and 1169 (4:07.32)
Real question whether she would run the 800 or 1500. She might be better relative to the best in the world in the 800, but the US team will be harder to make with Akins, Rogers, Mu etc.
The 1500 is just as stacked. ESP, Mackay, Norris, McGee, Johnson...
You didn’t even include Hiltz who just ran a 2:34 1000 last weekend
I tend to agree with this. 1500m is more open. On the 800m team you are really competing for two spots because of Mu.
Mu could also potentially run the 1500, although I doubt she will in Paris even if she qualifies. But who knows.
For all the talk last year this about the 1500m, this is the Olympics so I truly doubt it. Maybe Mu will move up after this year?
1500m has Hiltz, Wiley, Mackay, McGee, ESP, Maclean, Johnson... Norris and Cranny will run the 5k. As someone else pointed out, McGee has never broken 4, Maclean and Johnson are questionable.
ESP might be making another step forward, she just dropped a 10s PR in the 3k. But no one in the field has broken 3:58 yet. So, more chances to make it.
1) 3:54.99 Shelby Houlihan - October 5, 2019 [BANNED] 2) 3:56.29 Shannon Rowbury - July 17, 2015 3) 3:57.12 Mary Slaney - July 26, 1983 4) 3:57.22 Jennifer Simpson - July 5, 2014 5) 3:57.40 Suzy Favor Hamilton - July 28, 2000 6) 3:58.03 Elle Purrier St. Pierre - June 21, 2021 7) 3:58.76 Heather MacLean - September 2, 2022 (US #13 in 2023) 8) 3:58.85 Sinclaire Johnson - May 28, 2022 (US #3 in 2023) 9) 3:58.88 Elise Cranny - July 21, 2023 (US #1 in 2023) 10) 3:59.17 Addison Wiley - September 8, 2023 (US #2 in 2023) 11) 3:59.38 Anna Willard - August 28, 2009 12) 3:59.59 Christin Wurth-Thomas - July 16, 2010 13) 3:59.61 Nikki Hiltz - July 21, 2023 (US #4 in 2023) 14) 3:59.72 Josette Andrews - July 18, 2021 (US #7 in 2023) 15) 3:59.98 Regina Jacobs - February 1, 2003 16) 3:59.99 Emily Mackay - July 17, 2023 (US #5 in 2023) 17) 4:00.02 Karissa Schweizer - July 21, 2020 (US #11 in 2023) 18) 4:00.06 Morgan Uceny - September 16, 2011 19) 4:00.18 Ruth Wysocki - June 24, 1984 20) 4:00.34 Cori McGee - May 28, 2022 (US #6 in 2023) 21) 4:00.73 Shannon Osika - May 9, 2021 22) 4:00.94 Brenda Martinez - July 19, 2013 23) 4:01.09 Helen Schlachtenhaufen - July 4, 2021 (US #8 in 2023) 24) 4:01.33 Kate Grace - September 12, 2021 25) 4:01.48 Gabe Grunewald - July 19, 2013 26) 4:01.66 Dani Jones - September 2, 2023 (US #9 in 2023)
Houlihan is obviously banned. Cranny, Andrews, and Schweizer will not do the 1500, opting for the 5000 or 10000. Kate Grace will be almost 36 years old and has just had a child. McGee will be 32 and still has not broken 4:00; I doubt she ever will at this point. Not sure what MacLean's status is; being a New Balance runner and having attended UMASS I thought for sure she would be doing the NBIGP. Mu will not do the 1500 at the Trials. Schlachtenhaufen and Osika haven't PRed in almost three years and haven't really challenged 4:00 yet.
What remains for contenders:
Purrier St. Pierre MacLean??? Johnson Wiley Hiltz Mackay
If Hiltz runs like she did in 2023, I think you have to consider her a near lock. Purrier was a big question mark coming back from giving birth but last night showed she is very fit and ready to make the team. We may have Johnson, Wiley, Mackay, and possibly MacLean fighting for the #3 spot.
The Trials schedule always follows the Olympic schedule and the 800 is first in Paris. Wiley may opt for the 800 and if she doesn't make it, run the 1500.
1) 3:54.99 Shelby Houlihan - October 5, 2019 [BANNED] 2) 3:56.29 Shannon Rowbury - July 17, 2015 3) 3:57.12 Mary Slaney - July 26, 1983 4) 3:57.22 Jennifer Simpson - July 5, 2014 5) 3:57.40 Suzy Favor Hamilton - July 28, 2000 6) 3:58.03 Elle Purrier St. Pierre - June 21, 2021 7) 3:58.76 Heather MacLean - September 2, 2022 (US #13 in 2023) 8) 3:58.85 Sinclaire Johnson - May 28, 2022 (US #3 in 2023) 9) 3:58.88 Elise Cranny - July 21, 2023 (US #1 in 2023) 10) 3:59.17 Addison Wiley - September 8, 2023 (US #2 in 2023) 11) 3:59.38 Anna Willard - August 28, 2009 12) 3:59.59 Christin Wurth-Thomas - July 16, 2010 13) 3:59.61 Nikki Hiltz - July 21, 2023 (US #4 in 2023) 14) 3:59.72 Josette Andrews - July 18, 2021 (US #7 in 2023) 15) 3:59.98 Regina Jacobs - February 1, 2003 16) 3:59.99 Emily Mackay - July 17, 2023 (US #5 in 2023) 17) 4:00.02 Karissa Schweizer - July 21, 2020 (US #11 in 2023) 18) 4:00.06 Morgan Uceny - September 16, 2011 19) 4:00.18 Ruth Wysocki - June 24, 1984 20) 4:00.34 Cori McGee - May 28, 2022 (US #6 in 2023) 21) 4:00.73 Shannon Osika - May 9, 2021 22) 4:00.94 Brenda Martinez - July 19, 2013 23) 4:01.09 Helen Schlachtenhaufen - July 4, 2021 (US #8 in 2023) 24) 4:01.33 Kate Grace - September 12, 2021 25) 4:01.48 Gabe Grunewald - July 19, 2013 26) 4:01.66 Dani Jones - September 2, 2023 (US #9 in 2023)
Houlihan is obviously banned. Cranny, Andrews, and Schweizer will not do the 1500, opting for the 5000 or 10000. Kate Grace will be almost 36 years old and has just had a child. McGee will be 32 and still has not broken 4:00; I doubt she ever will at this point. Not sure what MacLean's status is; being a New Balance runner and having attended UMASS I thought for sure she would be doing the NBIGP. Mu will not do the 1500 at the Trials. Schlachtenhaufen and Osika haven't PRed in almost three years and haven't really challenged 4:00 yet.
What remains for contenders:
Purrier St. Pierre MacLean??? Johnson Wiley Hiltz Mackay
If Hiltz runs like she did in 2023, I think you have to consider her a near lock. Purrier was a big question mark coming back from giving birth but last night showed she is very fit and ready to make the team. We may have Johnson, Wiley, Mackay, and possibly MacLean fighting for the #3 spot.
The Trials schedule always follows the Olympic schedule and the 800 is first in Paris. Wiley may opt for the 800 and if she doesn't make it, run the 1500.
Good analysis. Care to do one similar for the 800m?
1) 3:54.99 Shelby Houlihan - October 5, 2019 [BANNED] 2) 3:56.29 Shannon Rowbury - July 17, 2015 3) 3:57.12 Mary Slaney - July 26, 1983 4) 3:57.22 Jennifer Simpson - July 5, 2014 5) 3:57.40 Suzy Favor Hamilton - July 28, 2000 6) 3:58.03 Elle Purrier St. Pierre - June 21, 2021 7) 3:58.76 Heather MacLean - September 2, 2022 (US #13 in 2023) 8) 3:58.85 Sinclaire Johnson - May 28, 2022 (US #3 in 2023) 9) 3:58.88 Elise Cranny - July 21, 2023 (US #1 in 2023) 10) 3:59.17 Addison Wiley - September 8, 2023 (US #2 in 2023) 11) 3:59.38 Anna Willard - August 28, 2009 12) 3:59.59 Christin Wurth-Thomas - July 16, 2010 13) 3:59.61 Nikki Hiltz - July 21, 2023 (US #4 in 2023) 14) 3:59.72 Josette Andrews - July 18, 2021 (US #7 in 2023) 15) 3:59.98 Regina Jacobs - February 1, 2003 16) 3:59.99 Emily Mackay - July 17, 2023 (US #5 in 2023) 17) 4:00.02 Karissa Schweizer - July 21, 2020 (US #11 in 2023) 18) 4:00.06 Morgan Uceny - September 16, 2011 19) 4:00.18 Ruth Wysocki - June 24, 1984 20) 4:00.34 Cori McGee - May 28, 2022 (US #6 in 2023) 21) 4:00.73 Shannon Osika - May 9, 2021 22) 4:00.94 Brenda Martinez - July 19, 2013 23) 4:01.09 Helen Schlachtenhaufen - July 4, 2021 (US #8 in 2023) 24) 4:01.33 Kate Grace - September 12, 2021 25) 4:01.48 Gabe Grunewald - July 19, 2013 26) 4:01.66 Dani Jones - September 2, 2023 (US #9 in 2023)
Houlihan is obviously banned. Cranny, Andrews, and Schweizer will not do the 1500, opting for the 5000 or 10000. Kate Grace will be almost 36 years old and has just had a child. McGee will be 32 and still has not broken 4:00; I doubt she ever will at this point. Not sure what MacLean's status is; being a New Balance runner and having attended UMASS I thought for sure she would be doing the NBIGP. Mu will not do the 1500 at the Trials. Schlachtenhaufen and Osika haven't PRed in almost three years and haven't really challenged 4:00 yet.
What remains for contenders:
Purrier St. Pierre MacLean??? Johnson Wiley Hiltz Mackay
If Hiltz runs like she did in 2023, I think you have to consider her a near lock. Purrier was a big question mark coming back from giving birth but last night showed she is very fit and ready to make the team. We may have Johnson, Wiley, Mackay, and possibly MacLean fighting for the #3 spot.
The Trials schedule always follows the Olympic schedule and the 800 is first in Paris. Wiley may opt for the 800 and if she doesn't make it, run the 1500.
Wouldn't be so certain that Cranny is not doing the 1500. If she doubles, the tea leaves point to her doubling in the 15 and not the 10. MacLean certainly has to be presumed to be somewhat banged up to not compete in this meet. McGee is New Balance too, but deliberately skipping indoors to stay fresh for outdoors. I think Hiltz has a nice finish and had a great year, but I wouldn't call Nikki a lock because Elle Purrier St. Pierre has the bigger engine, and Sinclaire Johnson has flashed a pretty huge finish too (she was going on 2 months training last trials). It's really wide open, and the group you have looks good but I'd just add in Cranny.
The Trials schedule always follows the Olympic schedule and the 800 is first in Paris. Wiley may opt for the 800 and if she doesn't make it, run the 1500.
That makes sense. It was the route for Brenda Martinez in 2016.
Yesterday I thought Wiley would try to race closer to the front at the outset. But she obviously sensed the pace was beyond her current capability. I knew she would finish strongly instead of fading. But right now her kick is superior at 800 than 1500.
Birke Haylom was the star. In fact, I thought she was the most impressive runner of the day. Last year Haylom ran some great times but she never could manage to stick with the ultra elite. Yesterday she emphatically and effortlessly latched onto Tsegay and never let go.
She was never going to kick past Tsegay.
Haylom took a leap forward in Eugene last year when she helped pace Tsegay to the world record at 5000. She looked stronger there than ever before and it carried over to Boston. Now she might already be a medal contender behind Kipyegon and Welteji, depending on what Hassan decides to do.
That makes sense. It was the route for Brenda Martinez in 2016.
Yesterday I thought Wiley would try to race closer to the front at the outset. But she obviously sensed the pace was beyond her current capability. I knew she would finish strongly instead of fading. But right now her kick is superior at 800 than 1500.
Birke Haylom was the star. In fact, I thought she was the most impressive runner of the day. Last year Haylom ran some great times but she never could manage to stick with the ultra elite. Yesterday she emphatically and effortlessly latched onto Tsegay and never let go.
She was never going to kick past Tsegay.
Haylom took a leap forward in Eugene last year when she helped pace Tsegay to the world record at 5000. She looked stronger there than ever before and it carried over to Boston. Now she might already be a medal contender behind Kipyegon and Welteji, depending on what Hassan decides to do.
Ethiopia selection should be interesting. It looks pretty clear now they screwed up by snubbing Frewenyi Hailu for the 1500 and putting her in the 5000. She's now under management with Welteji (left Tsegay group) and opener her season really impressively with a 4:17.36 mile. I'd put her a notch above Haylom for the time being, but both of them are definitive medal threats. I don't see Ethiopia screwing up again by inserting Meshesha, Embaye or someone else to get clever and put Haylom/Freweyni in the 5000.