Absolute nonsense. The purpose of mileage isn't just aerobic. It is practising the skill of running. If the type of training you advocate is do superior, then why aren't the triathletes the best runners?
Again, 100% wrong. I'd love to learn the personal running background and experience (PRs, training volume, any coaching high level athletes, etc.), not to mention scientific training, that you naysayers have with regard to running and the physiology of aerobic activities. She is not running "world class times." She is running NCAA championship times. There are plenty of 'world class' triathletes who can and do run comparable 5k efforts based on 30 miles per week of running. But don't let facts get in the way of your arguments. Running a bunch of garbage miles does not reap the same benefit as high quality cross training. Fact.
Absolute nonsense. The purpose of mileage isn't just aerobic. It is practising the skill of running. If the type of training you advocate is do superior, then why aren't the triathletes the best runners?
Again, 100% wrong. I'd love to learn the personal running background and experience (PRs, training volume, any coaching high level athletes, etc.), not to mention scientific training, that you naysayers have with regard to running and the physiology of aerobic activities. She is not running "world class times." She is running NCAA championship times. There are plenty of 'world class' triathletes who can and do run comparable 5k efforts based on 30 miles per week of running. But don't let facts get in the way of your arguments. Running a bunch of garbage miles does not reap the same benefit as high quality cross training. Fact.
She is definitely running elite times for the US. All of the posters that believe (uncritically) that this is totally legit, are mentioning hobbyjogger PR's, random triathlon anecdotes, as justification. The mental gymnastics are very entertaining. If this worked, pro teams would do it. They don't.
She is definitely running elite times for the US. All of the posters that believe (uncritically) that this is totally legit, are mentioning hobbyjogger PR's, random triathlon anecdotes, as justification. The mental gymnastics are very entertaining. If this worked, pro teams would do it. They don't.
Cross training is something that has played a key part of Galen’s training for a long time, including work on the alter G treadmill and aqua jogging. He says it’s a recovery tool but also a way to incorporate extra aerobic fitness into the training regime without increasing the pounding on the body that running so many miles can inflict. Risk mitigation in order to minimise injury and maximise consistency over a long period of time is hugely important for long term gains. In Galen’s view it’s all building cardiovascular fitness and at a certain point your body can’t tell the difference.
She is definitely running elite times for the US. All of the posters that believe (uncritically) that this is totally legit, are mentioning hobbyjogger PR's, random triathlon anecdotes, as justification. The mental gymnastics are very entertaining. If this worked, pro teams would do it. They don't.
Cross training is something that has played a key part of Galen’s training for a long time, including work on the alter G treadmill and aqua jogging. He says it’s a recovery tool but also a way to incorporate extra aerobic fitness into the training regime without increasing the pounding on the body that running so many miles can inflict. Risk mitigation in order to minimise injury and maximise consistency over a long period of time is hugely important for long term gains. In Galen’s view it’s all building cardiovascular fitness and at a certain point your body can’t tell the difference.
She is definitely running elite times for the US. All of the posters that believe (uncritically) that this is totally legit, are mentioning hobbyjogger PR's, random triathlon anecdotes, as justification. The mental gymnastics are very entertaining. If this worked, pro teams would do it. They don't.
Cross training is something that has played a key part of Galen’s training for a long time, including work on the alter G treadmill and aqua jogging. He says it’s a recovery tool but also a way to incorporate extra aerobic fitness into the training regime without increasing the pounding on the body that running so many miles can inflict. Risk mitigation in order to minimise injury and maximise consistency over a long period of time is hugely important for long term gains. In Galen’s view it’s all building cardiovascular fitness and at a certain point your body can’t tell the difference.
Valby's core training is the 25 to 30 miles she runs every week but she does say that the Arc trainer workouts at high incline/high resistance makes running hills feel easy in comparison.
Your comment that the only other examples given were hobby joggers is BS. The freshman who finished 7th last year also has a similar routine as does the current top HS girl who set an age world record in the 2 mile last June.
30 miles of speed work with a ton of cross training. the arc trainer resistance helped her with the hills and power. look at her legs men. next step would be to do the arc trainer in an altitude tent? she'll get to stay in Florida with all the fresh OJ
I don't see the confusion you people have with her training. It makes total sense for her to achieve this fitness for a 6k race with just 3 running days and the rest cross training. She's only demanding about 20min of intense racing from her body. No doubt runners would struggle with anything over 10k, maybe 8k, with this type of training; the benefit of time on feet and getting the body used to pounding is the real benefit of higher mileage.
In fact, I think this is probably an ideal training philosophy for young runners (high school / early college)who don't have the discipline to take easy days easy or who are injury prone. Think of all the careers of college runners that could have been saved with less pounding on the body.
If it's just as effective as putting in more miles then why isn't it the norm for the best college athletes?
I don't see the confusion you people have with her training. It makes total sense for her to achieve this fitness for a 6k race with just 3 running days and the rest cross training. She's only demanding about 20min of intense racing from her body. No doubt runners would struggle with anything over 10k, maybe 8k, with this type of training; the benefit of time on feet and getting the body used to pounding is the real benefit of higher mileage.
In fact, I think this is probably an ideal training philosophy for young runners (high school / early college)who don't have the discipline to take easy days easy or who are injury prone. Think of all the careers of college runners that could have been saved with less pounding on the body.
If it's just as effective as putting in more miles then why isn't it the norm for the best college athletes?
How many times are you going to repeat the same question, when answers have already been given?
Absolute nonsense. The purpose of mileage isn't just aerobic. It is practising the skill of running. If the type of training you advocate is do superior, then why aren't the triathletes the best runners?
Again, 100% wrong. I'd love to learn the personal running background and experience (PRs, training volume, any coaching high level athletes, etc.), not to mention scientific training, that you naysayers have with regard to running and the physiology of aerobic activities. She is not running "world class times." She is running NCAA championship times. There are plenty of 'world class' triathletes who can and do run comparable 5k efforts based on 30 miles per week of running. But don't let facts get in the way of your arguments. Running a bunch of garbage miles does not reap the same benefit as high quality cross training. Fact.
To put it bluntly, she is killing the very best of her competitors, who are the top college athletes in the country, on far less running. Since when has a less than ideal training programme been a recipe for complete domination by any athlete?
Train the way that works for you, just do not get destroyed by coach who beliefs that his/her system is the only one and it does not matter what you are capable of....
No, they haven't. Her training isn't the norm for the best college athletes. Yet it is apparently more effective.
Answers have been given. You may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them any less valid.
They haven't addressed the specific point I have raised. They have simply said her training works for her - which is obvious.
But the question remains - because it has not been answered - if such training can be as effective as a higher mileage programme, or even better, why are not more top college runners using it and why is it not the norm at that level?
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