Someone can correct me if I’m wrong here but Remi is also the current vertical skimo world champ. I think his ability to climb is probably without par at the moment. He took this record out, did the manitou springs incline the other day, he’s got the record on that ridiculous climb up the Swiss hill in Fully (which Kilian has had a crack at). As you said, credit the man!
1. Kilian never did the Ascent race at Pikes so it's not really an equal comparison.
There is still a difference between going up in 2:09 as a split en route during the marathon (which Kilian did in 2019) vs blasting all-out up the climb only when you know you are finishing on the summit instead of way back down in Manitou.
2. Remi's best Pikes Peak Marathon time is 3:37...which he ran when he won in 2017. For comparison my best time is 3:39 and that was the same year (2019) Kilian won and ran a 3:27 (Remi was also in that race that year and finished way behind us in 4:05).
3. I can't recall a running race head to head where Remi beat Kilian?
I found it interesting that Remi credits "spending 20 days in an altitude tent" to give him an extra edge for his performance this year. It takes about 21 days + for new red blood cells to actually form from "high altitude training"
Sage, are you forgetting Carpenter didn't set the Ascent CR in the Ascent race, but in the Marathon? Your first point is irrelevant, so it is an equal comparison.
Seth is kind of a 1 trick pony. High altitude is only place he's done well. I mean even his best times at Rendezvous hill climb are 2-3mins (?) Slowe than Gray and a road runner focused guy. When he showed up to nationals for usa he was no where near the top guys and don't even mention the world Champs, seth was 4 mins back from top guys in a 15k. Sage has at least crushed other distances so I don't blame him for not crediting this guy who excels only at 1 event
You are right. Seth is a one trick pony and we love him for that. He is light and lives close to the mountains, so he can prepare well. Especially now since he is not doing his videos anymore.
I guess what I’m getting as not mentioning Seth - in the discussion of Pikes Peak -
we mention Matt Carpenter all the time , because his Pikes peak specific accomplishments are valid
as are Seth’s
beyond Pikes peak are different discussions
Sage has given Seth some credit in the past, but there is definitely bad blood flowing from Sage to Seth so that is why a good day for Seth was not mentioned by Sage.
I just put the live feed on for the Marathon because the leader should be at the top soon, but the feed is buffering and stuck at 1:55.
I guess what I’m getting as not mentioning Seth - in the discussion of Pikes Peak -
we mention Matt Carpenter all the time , because his Pikes peak specific accomplishments are valid
as are Seth’s
beyond Pikes peak are different discussions
Sage has given Seth some credit in the past, but there is definitely bad blood flowing from Sage to Seth so that is why a good day for Seth was not mentioned by Sage.
I just put the live feed on for the Marathon because the leader should be at the top soon, but the feed is buffering and stuck at 1:55.
Thanks for the link, bummer it's stuck right when the leaders are (likely) hitting the summit. Of all times to go down LOL 😬
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I guess what I’m getting as not mentioning Seth - in the discussion of Pikes Peak -
we mention Matt Carpenter all the time , because his Pikes peak specific accomplishments are valid
as are Seth’s
beyond Pikes peak are different discussions
Sage has given Seth some credit in the past, but there is definitely bad blood flowing from Sage to Seth so that is why a good day for Seth was not mentioned by Sage.
0/10 Trying to create crap out of nothing because someone talking about records didn't mention the 4th place finisher. Ackley, how come you didn't mention #12? Must be bad blood because he slept with your mom.
Sage has given Seth some credit in the past, but there is definitely bad blood flowing from Sage to Seth so that is why a good day for Seth was not mentioned by Sage.
0/10 Trying to create crap out of nothing because someone talking about records didn't mention the 4th place finisher. Ackley, how come you didn't mention #12? Must be bad blood because he slept with your mom.
Four points:
(1) I was replying to another post.
(2) In the old SJD thread, while giving Seth credit for being an elite high altitude uphill runner, Sage made some personal attacks against Seth. So, I didn't create anything.
(3) As I have said before on other threads, I have been a follower of Sage for years and wish he would take the high road.
I guess what I’m getting as not mentioning Seth - in the discussion of Pikes Peak -
we mention Matt Carpenter all the time , because his Pikes peak specific accomplishments are valid
as are Seth’s
beyond Pikes peak are different discussions
Sage has given Seth some credit in the past, but there is definitely bad blood flowing from Sage to Seth so that is why a good day for Seth was not mentioned by Sage.
I just put the live feed on for the Marathon because the leader should be at the top soon, but the feed is buffering and stuck at 1:55.
I'm going to assume SJD's training was stupid as usual, in which case this was actually a really good weekend for him. I still feel a little sad about how much wasted potential there is with him, but hey, maybe he can give it one more shot. From Twitter and other sources, the general vibe is that he is done with YouTube. Hoping he reboots and gives it one more shot, doing it right this time.
Sage has been nothing but a sore manchild with respect to SJD. Seth has literally never mentioned Sage in any of his vlogs. He has never written about Sage anywhere online. In fact, the only public interaction I remember is Seth leaving a polite comment of sympathy on one of Sage's videos (don't remember if it was the fire or health issue). Seth is a classy guy in that sense.
Whereas Sage has attacked Seth publicly, made a stupid video mocking him, constantly needs to emphasize they are "not in the same league" because Sage ran a 2:18 while Seth is only a 2:22 marathoner (on really stupid training and little rest, BTW). Any thread about SJD will have at least one interjection by Sage redirecting everyone's attention to his "accomplishments". Absolutely disgusting vile behavior.
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