Yup, I'm down a rabbit hole. Google Translated from the Czech. Pronoun changes may be interpreted as ironic. TM: is the interviewer.
A friend has power and a huge family. "We already have fourteen other children from my nephews and nieces," says Jarmila Kratochvílová. In the age of covid, she wouldn't even be able to invite them all to celebrate her 70th birthday yesterday. "Hopefully we will do it in the spring, when everything will be different," he hopes.
But he can celebrate with movement. In the Čáslav park, where she ran from the age of 16. Or in Golčov Jeníkov, where he goes up the hill behind the house and goes into the fields or the forest. "When you want, you can run everywhere. And when it snows, I'll take out my cross-country skis."
TM: Do you feel: I am running, therefore I am?
I don't run that much anymore. There is always something to do in the countryside, I have enough exercise. But I go for a run myself, maybe twice a week, for a maximum of five kilometers.
TM: Even in minus ten?
I would hesitate a little. I'd probably rather go to the sauna. I have such a little one at home. I preferred to go to the bigger one in Čáslav, but now it's closed. I have a lot of friends there, we sit and talk, no one's phone rings and I always learn something.
TM: You spent 54 of your 70 years in athletics. Does it seem unreal to you?
I first came to the stadium in Čáslav in the spring of 1967. I never thought I would stay here for so long.
TM: You came from a non-sporting family.
Yes, but Jeníkov is a small town where we had nothing, just flying down the street or on a frozen pond in winter. The streets and nature were my great gymnasium.
TM: Who lured you into athletics from there?
Three people. The teacher at the elementary school told me: You are smart, so when you go to Čáslav to grammar school, you should join the athletics team. A classmate from high school then convinced me: Look, I've been doing athletics for four years and you'll outrun me in gym, so come to the section with me. After a year of persuasion, I listened to her. And I met coach Kváč at the stadium.
TM: His training was said to be extreme. For example, twenty three hundreds in a row.
He was a soldier coach, he managed everything in a military manner. As soon as I was delayed for five minutes, he immediately started talking. But we worked our way through the hard training sessions for a long time. Today, the younger ones would prefer to win right away. Anyway, Mr. Kváč knew how to coax me and gradually increased my doses.
TM: As a trainer, did you later transfer his methods to your students?
No. Even though I led excellent girls, Lída Formanová and Hanka Benešová, I didn't even take out my training diaries. Every organism is different, training cannot be copied. I took a slightly different method with the girls back then. And as for the current generation, it is completely different.
TM: Where? Doesn't he have enough willpower?
Children don't fly outside that much, they don't climb trees or over fences, and therefore they are not as well prepared for sports. In addition, I also perceive their eternal distraction so that they don't miss something on their mobile phone during training.
TM: How do you convince them?
I don't have much strength to tell them how I used to go jogging on the road at four in the morning. I don't know if they could even imagine it.
TM: How many wards do you have?
Just a small group. When they all get together, there are eight of them. And someone always leaves. They graduate, there are no other schools in Čáslav, so they head elsewhere.
TM: In the time of the coronavirus, you have to improvise a lot with them, right?
We still don't even know what races will actually take place. The gym is closed. But we can go to the stadium at any time and to the park too. He has to strengthen at home. We'll adapt.
TM: You also improvised many times when you stayed at home in the winter while others flew to warm camps in the Canaries.
Just. After all, you can train anywhere. Even on manure, as my coach said.
TM: In your case, especially on the Čáslav cinders, right?
Thanks God. Maybe that's why I stayed healthy for so long.
TM: Because of the cinder block?
Yeah. Although we were dirty from her and she bloated in the winter, she was not bad from a health point of view. Today's fast artificial surfaces cause big impacts to the muscles. But it's easier to shovel snow from them.
TM: Is it still true that you have no major health problems after your career?
It applies. The body holds. Although many who watched my hard workouts warned me that I would have health problems later because of them.
TM: You would also frighten today's nutritionists with your dietary preferences.
You know, steaks or sausages also worked for me in the preparation. I still like them, I don't care about today's food fashion. Let everyone find what makes them feel good.
TM: Lada Vondrová, a talent with an admirable range from one hundred to eight, sometimes comes to Čáslav to train. Does it remind you of your old frenetic racing combos?
Probably yes. Lada is a hardworking girl. And very young. It took many years for me to make three starts in one afternoon like her. However, her coach knows her and believes that she is already capable of this.
TM: It probably also brings back memories of your legendary 400m and 800m gold medal at the World Championships in Helsinki in 1983, doesn't it?
Of course, I remember this often. I was originally supposed to run there only Thursday, until my world record for 800 meters from Munich 1983 just before the championship changed everything. And I managed it. You know, I trained really hard back then. I wanted so badly to beat Marita Kochová so that I wouldn't always be listening to the GDR anthem on the podium.
TM: You said goodbye to your career in 1987 by sending out telegrams announcing the end of your racing activities. The evening after, you were said to be all white.
Yeah, I was sick. You can't prepare for such a moment, even though I originally wanted to finish at the Olympics in Los Angeles in 1984. But when they didn't let us go there, I extended my career for another three years. Which I definitely did not regret.
TM: You have held the world record for 800 meters for 37 years. What is it to you?
If I lost him, I would probably regret it for a while. But I understand that for others, on the contrary, it is a great motivation to overcome him. Although who knows, athletes today have quite different motivations.
TM: What kind?
They can earn a bundle of money in so many rallies. That's why maybe the world record doesn't bother them too much.
TM: Take a guess. How long could he stay with you?
I don't know. If Caster Semenya could keep running, she would have one by now. I watched her every race, how she wasn't even very tired after the finish, and I thought: It won't be a problem for her. I don't know what will happen to her now.
TM: Should she continue to race among women?
That has to be solved by other people. She is not responsible for her problem (according to the new rules, Semenya should take medication to reduce her excessively high testosterone level), she was already born that way. But on the other hand, I also understand the other girls that they didn't want to run with her.
TM: How have you heard the suggestions that records from the 1980s, including yours, be annulled?
Every time I read about it, I thought: What kind of nonsense is this, after all, it's not possible for them to say smidgen from today, we're canceling them. Even then, I would still feel in my soul and heart that I have the world record.
TM: That time is criticized because of the doping practices of that time revealed not only in athletics. You have stated many times that you have never doped in your life. Are you bothered by the endless hints?
I learned to live with them a long time ago. Let everyone say what they want. Only me and the coach know the path we took and the training that led me to my results. Whoever writes about doping has never seen my training sessions. I have a clear conscience. Unfortunately, this is such a characteristic of ours, not only in sports, that when someone is good at something, they are immediately suspect.
TM: There was also speculation about Usain Bolt, whether he was helping himself with prohibited means.
And he was exceptional. From time to time such a person is born who is capable of performing amazing feats. However, you also need a lot of other things for them, not just talent. Also health, love of sport, background, incredible diligence and humility. Mainly the humility, I emphasize that.
TM: Would you say that athletics has become your lifelong love?
Probably yes. I'm glad that I experienced all this, although sometimes I cried and didn't even want to come to training the next day. It belongs to it.
TM: The pain.
And a long road to success. I remember this fondly. With it, you will experience everything, including a lot of problems. How you deal with them is up to you.
TM: What else do you do these days when you're not doing athletics?
In the summer I am in the garden, growing flowers and vegetables. And above all, we like to be together with our family when there are so many of us. I'm definitely not lying on the couch. Besides athletics, I really like watching biathlon. I also went to Nové Mesto to cheer several times and I had a lot of fun. I enjoy every transmission. I go to them like I go to the theater.
TM: Say, do you feel 70 years old?
Seventy is just a number after all. Nothing changes with her in my life. I don't really care about her either.
TM: What are you dreaming about now?
That I will be at training again in the afternoon. That I can handle everything around my birthday, because just during our conversation, maybe a hundred people have called me now. And then I dream that there really will be an Olympics in Tokyo this summer.
TM: And you will get up in the middle of the night to broadcast?
Certainly. I stood up for them at every Olympics, I won't break that.
You need more than just talent to perform amazingly. Also health, love of sport, background, incredible diligence and humility - I emphasize here.