How Long till Kipyegon gets popped?

Awsi Dooger wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

*Correction: the world champs where she got annihilated by Hassan was in 2019. She ran 3.54x, some full five seconds slower than what she has just achieved four years later. Wonders never cease. At that rate, in another four years she will likely run 3:44. Nothing to see here.

You can't actually be that stupid, to be completely oblivious of situational influence. Kipyegon was coming off maternity leave in 2019. She didn't race for nearly 22 months, from early September 2017 to late June 2019. Then she had a setback after her return race in Eugene, which kept her out for more than 2 months.

When those Doha world championships arrived, Kipyegon's lack of ideal conditioning was a big topic around here. Many of us proposed that Hassan should totally abandon her typical style to take advantage of Kipyegon's vulnerability. Why get into a cat and mouse race with a superior closer, when you can simply take it out and run a time that Kipyegon is not currently capable of?

I insisted Hassan should use that approach. Many others agreed. But Hassan had never demonstrated any inclination to use that style , including in the heats. However, once the race began that's exactly what Hassan did. Quickly to the front. Wire to wire. She was jubilant at the outcome. Kipyegon fought valiantly for silver. She was very satisfied with her effort but not the result.

Hassan's new level of 2019 is what put Kipyegon on notice that she had to improve dramatically to repeat as gold medalist. She's mentioned many times how dedicated she became. The pandemic worked in her favor, enabling 2 years instead of 1 before Tokyo.

I don't know why I bother responding to a simpleton. None of the above matters when it's a flyover. Doping cynicism requires zero talent or insight. That's why the most limited types swarm the topic.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Fapstronglivs wrote:

In the last 6 hours I have done lots of useful things, like training, cooking, and taking care of my children.

Looks like you feel like posting a lot. You are obviously lonely.

Why do you say posting takes longer than a few minutes for me? Hahaha poor thing.

I care about the sport. I coach, I run, I write about it on a popular platform (other than LRC).

You just care about accusing fast athletes of doping. I understand, it gives you a sense of mission, gives a purpose to your empty life.

Take care 😘

My 6 hours have involved doing things that I find interesting that aren't the same as yours - but that might surprise one with such a limited and self-absorbed perspective as you have.

You say you care about the sport but you remain oblivious to what it has become, like an adherent devoted to a cult that cannot be seen to be flawed.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Fapstronglivs wrote:

In the last 6 hours I have done lots of useful things, like training, cooking, and taking care of my children.

Looks like you feel like posting a lot. You are obviously lonely.

Why do you say posting takes longer than a few minutes for me? Hahaha poor thing.

I care about the sport. I coach, I run, I write about it on a popular platform (other than LRC).

You just care about accusing fast athletes of doping. I understand, it gives you a sense of mission, gives a purpose to your empty life.

Take care 😘

My 6 hours have involved doing things that I find interesting that aren't the same as yours - but that might surprise one with such a limited and self-absorbed perspective as you have.

You say you care about the sport but you remain oblivious to what it has become, like an adherent devoted to a cult that cannot be seen to be flawed.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Awsi Dooger wrote:

You can't actually be that stupid, to be completely oblivious of situational influence. Kipyegon was coming off maternity leave in 2019. She didn't race for nearly 22 months, from early September 2017 to late June 2019. Then she had a setback after her return race in Eugene, which kept her out for more than 2 months.

When those Doha world championships arrived, Kipyegon's lack of ideal conditioning was a big topic around here. Many of us proposed that Hassan should totally abandon her typical style to take advantage of Kipyegon's vulnerability. Why get into a cat and mouse race with a superior closer, when you can simply take it out and run a time that Kipyegon is not currently capable of?

I insisted Hassan should use that approach. Many others agreed. But Hassan had never demonstrated any inclination to use that style , including in the heats. However, once the race began that's exactly what Hassan did. Quickly to the front. Wire to wire. She was jubilant at the outcome. Kipyegon fought valiantly for silver. She was very satisfied with her effort but not the result.

Hassan's new level of 2019 is what put Kipyegon on notice that she had to improve dramatically to repeat as gold medalist. She's mentioned many times how dedicated she became. The pandemic worked in her favor, enabling 2 years instead of 1 before Tokyo.

I don't know why I bother responding to a simpleton. None of the above matters when it's a flyover. Doping cynicism requires zero talent or insight. That's why the most limited types swarm the topic.

What a load of ignorant tosh. At Doha, Kipyegon improved on her previous best by over 2 seconds - before she had had a baby. So after childbirth she was way faster than before. That's how "vulnerable" she was.

The "notice" that Hassan put Kipyegon on was that she had to dope even more if she wished to win. She has obviously done that. She has improved from 3:56 to 3:49. That's doping. You haven't a clue.