Not sure of the significance but at the Spider Open, for Virginia, Timm (a transfer from Princeton) and Bushee (a freshman) beat Atkinson and Workman who were 46 and 65 at Nationals last year. Appelton, David (another freshman) and Menninger did not run. Bushee was 9:30 for 3000 in hs and Timm was 4:36 miler at Princeton.
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Also of note Oregon does not list any of the transfers on their roster - no Frias, McDonnell or Barnett and also no Patterson?? Is this accurate as I expected at the least to see Patterson listed.
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Most are ineligible.
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woe man wrote:
Most are ineligible.
I get “most” but all?
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NAU had 7 women break 15 minutes on the 2.6 mile course at Buffalo Park (Flagstaff). (2 unattached). And Larkin & Reiss didn't even run. For context the George Kyte Class is often won in over 15 minutes (though the weather was nice a cool on Saturday at race time for the women). Stearns was the first collegian last year in 15:16, and a pro Chinese runner, Wuga HE (15:11 5k, 31:14 10k PRs) ran a 14:42. Yes, it's cross country, and times don't mean everything, but Long story short, the NAU women are REALLY good this year.
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Lumbersnacks wrote:
NAU had 7 women break 15 minutes on the 2.6 mile course at Buffalo Park (Flagstaff). (2 unattached). And Larkin & Reiss didn't even run. For context the George Kyte Class is often won in over 15 minutes (though the weather was nice a cool on Saturday at race time for the women). Stearns was the first collegian last year in 15:16, and a pro Chinese runner, Wuga HE (15:11 5k, 31:14 10k PRs) ran a 14:42. Yes, it's cross country, and times don't mean everything, but Long story short, the NAU women are REALLY good this year.
I think what is most impressive to me is the ability of the new comers to run so well at altitude so quickly. Buffalo Park is at 7,116 feet.
Larkin, Reiss, Kebbe, N Moore and Congdon didn't even run. Add them in as well and yes this team is going to be REALLY good!
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Lumbersnacks wrote:
NAU had 7 women break 15 minutes on the 2.6 mile course at Buffalo Park (Flagstaff). (2 unattached). And Larkin & Reiss didn't even run. For context the George Kyte Class is often won in over 15 minutes (though the weather was nice a cool on Saturday at race time for the women). Stearns was the first collegian last year in 15:16, and a pro Chinese runner, Wuga HE (15:11 5k, 31:14 10k PRs) ran a 14:42. Yes, it's cross country, and times don't mean everything, but Long story short, the NAU women are REALLY good this year.
the most impressive performance might be from true freshman Emma Stutzman in her first race at altitude running a 14:43. she pretty much stuck with Stearns and Smee the entire time - no small task.
she ran unattached, still a chance she redshirts, but with a time like that she's definitely on Smith's radar as the real deal.
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Is Cook redshirting or is her tfrrrs page not updated?
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She ran unattached in the time trial
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FL W working hills?
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O'Sullivan of WA still running - 8:44.72 for 3000 beating Vissa among others (2nd overall).
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rbtrackfan wrote:
Are they literally drunk? I used to have respect for this media outlet but seriously it’s gone after this ranking and this podcast. My 5th grade nephew could rank the teams better
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Please post your rankings rather than insulting some else's.
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woe man wrote:
Please post your rankings rather than insulting some else's.
This is a start for me: Note it looks like NC State and then 5 teams basically even.
1 - NC State – Tuohy, Chmiel, Tyynismaa in top 10, Bush ~20,
Hartman or Loveys ~60 for < 100 points
2a -Northern Arizona – Stearns 5-10, Larkin 15-20, Reiss and
Smee ~35, Grice ~60 for ~170 points
2b – Colorado – Hertenstein 5-10, Covert ~20, Baran ~25, Dishon
~40, Baloga~60 for ~170 points (no Cook or Starliper assumed)
2c – Florida – Valby top 5, Mazza-Downie 10-15, Asekol ~25,
Thorner~40, Donnelly or Wilson ~90 for ~170 points
5a – Stanford – Bunnage ~15, Riggs and Dudek ~30, Jenks ~40,
Kennedy ~70 for ~190 points (3 freshman tho)
5b- Oklahoma State – Roe and Jepkuir ~15, Hentemann ~35,
Born ~50, Galvydyte ~60 for ~190 points
Then the following – maybe I will add detail later
Notre Dame
Virginia
Arkansas
North Carolina
BYU
Alabama
Georgetown
Oregon
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rbtrackfan wrote:
This is a start for me: Note it looks like NC State and then 5 teams basically even.
1 - NC State – Tuohy, Chmiel, Tyynismaa in top 10, Bush ~20,
Hartman or Loveys ~60 for < 100 pointsI am thinking that the #5 slot could go to Hartman, Loveys, or Rauber depending on who has a good day in Charlottesville and being somewhere between 50-70 (say average 60 where you are at) for a total potentially in 100 point (or so) range.
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Isn't that about the same as Flotrack?
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woe man wrote:
Isn't that about the same as Flotrack?
I have Oregon much lower and Florida much higher.
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