Maybe I'm being cynical or maybe the incessant coffee club Yared propaganda has burned me out but I don't really see Yared in the same league as Jakob and I'll have to see it to believe it. I view Yared the same way I view Katir or Hoare, incredible athletes but don't ever think "oh man he can take down Jakob in a DL 1500m." Jakob hasn't lost a DL 1500m since 2021 when he was 3rd at Monaco (after being sick in the run up) then lost the DL final to prime Cheruiyot post Olympic win.
None of the current crop of 1500 runners have beaten Jakob in a DL apart from Katir (in Monaco) & Cheruiyot (who I think is at the tail end of his prime).
Maybe I'm being cynical or maybe the incessant coffee club Yared propaganda has burned me out but I don't really see Yared in the same league as Jakob and I'll have to see it to believe it. I view Yared the same way I view Katir or Hoare, incredible athletes but don't ever think "oh man he can take down Jakob in a DL 1500m." Jakob hasn't lost a DL 1500m since 2021 when he was 3rd at Monaco (after being sick in the run up) then lost the DL final to prime Cheruiyot post Olympic win.
None of the current crop of 1500 runners have beaten Jakob in a DL apart from Katir (in Monaco) & Cheruiyot (who I think is at the tail end of his prime).
Bringing his DL 1500 win streak to: 2.
I also don't love the Katir/Hoare comp for Yared. Katir is not a pure 1500 guy, Hoare is a late-bloomer and grinder relative to Yared. Not saying Yared will ever reach Jakob's level but were Hoare to do it, it'd have to a Wightman type arc (incrementally get closer over the years) with a huge race to upstage him. I don't think Hoare thinks he will get to a point of routinely beating Jakob. Katir would more have to flash speed we haven't seen. For now, he beat Jakob in Monaco when Jakob had some illnesses and has looked pretty outmatched mano a mano (though collected some hardware). Yared is more of a meteoric rise, and that's why everyone's fascinated by him. He didn't take a few pro season to hit 3:47 for mile, 7:28 for 3K or drop a sub-26 last 200 in a fast race. That was all very quickly. So there's the tantalizing possibility he has a really high ceiling.
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Please. The American hope i.e. the desperate hope for a great 15oo-runner. This is not about the kick as such. Nuguse will have no kick left if he follows Jakob the first 13oo. This year Jakob is going to run fast. Nuguse will not be able to beat Jakob nor Kipsang or Hoare or Garcia in Rabat. This is just a hype.
Please. The American hope i.e. the desperate hope for a great 15oo-runner. This is not about the kick as such. Nuguse will have no kick left if he follows Jakob the first 13oo. This year Jakob is going to run fast. Nuguse will not be able to beat Jakob nor Kipsang or Hoare or Garcia in Rabat. This is just a hype.
Desperate? If you lose Jakob your country has no one else!
Please. The American hope i.e. the desperate hope for a great 15oo-runner. This is not about the kick as such. Nuguse will have no kick left if he follows Jakob the first 13oo. This year Jakob is going to run fast. Nuguse will not be able to beat Jakob nor Kipsang or Hoare or Garcia in Rabat. This is just a hype.
Desperate? If you lose Jakob your country has no one else!
Spoken like someone who have no idea about track and field.
Please. The American hope i.e. the desperate hope for a great 15oo-runner. This is not about the kick as such. Nuguse will have no kick left if he follows Jakob the first 13oo. This year Jakob is going to run fast. Nuguse will not be able to beat Jakob nor Kipsang or Hoare or Garcia in Rabat. This is just a hype.
*Desperate hope* - the reality = medals for USA at 1500 in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2016 (gold). Sure a minor drought now, but to not think Nuguse’s last 9 months or so has been impressive is the desperate move.
Please. The American hope i.e. the desperate hope for a great 15oo-runner. This is not about the kick as such. Nuguse will have no kick left if he follows Jakob the first 13oo. This year Jakob is going to run fast. Nuguse will not be able to beat Jakob nor Kipsang or Hoare or Garcia in Rabat. This is just a hype.
Desperate? If you lose Jakob your country has no one else!
A small country you know. Well at least we have Karsten Warholm. And in Track and Field a few more. Not at least in Pole Vault and Hammer Throw and Decathlon. And then some pretty good triathlets. And we hope desperately for Filip Ingebrigtsen and Gjerts pupil Narve Gilje Nordås. And some female runners like Bjerkeli Grøvdal. That's pretty much it.
Long long time ago. Nuguse has not been impressive outdoors. But indoors sure. May be I am wrong. Would really love to see him doing well.
He’s raced once outdoors and won an 800 in 1:46.30 going away. A solid time for a strength-based 1500 guy even-splitting/sandbagging an 800. Easily beat Mario Romo who is more of a balanced 1500 runner.
I understand Scandinavians can be blunt and literal. Jakob has been more unimpressive outdoors as he literally hasn’t raced. Nuguse was certainly more impressive than him indoors. While Jakob is the favorite, your dismissiveness of Nuguse is bizarre.
Long long time ago. Nuguse has not been impressive outdoors. But indoors sure. May be I am wrong. Would really love to see him doing well.
He’s raced once outdoors and won an 800 in 1:46.30 going away. A solid time for a strength-based 1500 guy even-splitting/sandbagging an 800. Easily beat Mario Romo who is more of a balanced 1500 runner.
I understand Scandinavians can be blunt and literal. Jakob has been more unimpressive outdoors as he literally hasn’t raced. Nuguse was certainly more impressive than him indoors. While Jakob is the favorite, your dismissiveness of Nuguse is bizarre.
May be so. You think it is bizarre. So far this guy ran this 1.46.3o and that's it. I have not seen he qualities yet on a 4oo meter track. We will see on sunday. My guess is fifth place,
Jakob is well aware of the times Nuguse has posted indoors. I don't think Jakob will be waiting for the final 200 in this race. I imagine Jakob is asking for fast pacer, and taking over the lead with no less than 500m to go. Jakob will want to have a comfortable lead going into the final 200. Of course, Nuguse could surprise and be right there, but it's still early in the season, and Jakob has done the training he's wanted: altitude strength in USA, hills, and of course his high threshold pacing.
I give Jakob 90% chance to win, Nuguse 10%.
He hasn’t been in USA for altitude- Sierra Nevada (2000m) in Spain.
He was in Flagstaff in the late fall, so perhaps that's what the poster referred to.
Spoken like someone who have no idea about track and field.
I thought you could infer that I meant in middle/long distance running.
I know track and field, and Norway, very well, tusen takk.
Certainly not. You obviously haven't watched Diamond League the last years. The persons you are calling "noone" shows that you have no idea. Makes sense when you value imaginary "what if" accomplishments that you so easily dismiss real accomplishments. Ignorance.
