There are a tons of events streaming, on TV, or on YouTube. Pros, College and HS.
Could someone (with the correct permission take all the similar races (100, LJ, 1500) and compile them into a long video? Give me all the M 1500's that week with a time stamp for each race and put them up on a site- I'd pay for that.
To echo some other folks on here, I will no longer be rooting for Mu. Shame, really - she grew up in Trenton, which is right around the corner from me, with an incredible personal story - first generation American from immigrant parents who escaped violence in their home country, and worked her butt off to become one of the best 800m runners in history. I know no one cares if some rando dude on the Internet is disillusioned with her, but I think a lot of people think similarly to me - it’s a slap in the face to the sport that she’s probably going to race 2x this year.
absolutely agree. it’s actually pathetic to follow her on SM these days. she gets a little fame (for being a great runner) and all of a sudden she thinks she is a model and need to do the red carpet constantly. let’s be honest here, had she not won an olympic gold she would not have gotten a single modeling job. get over yourself gf and remember what took you here, if you abandon that, you are just another wannabe in the long line of wannabes.
To echo some other folks on here, I will no longer be rooting for Mu. Shame, really - she grew up in Trenton, which is right around the corner from me, with an incredible personal story - first generation American from immigrant parents who escaped violence in their home country, and worked her butt off to become one of the best 800m runners in history. I know no one cares if some rando dude on the Internet is disillusioned with her, but I think a lot of people think similarly to me - it’s a slap in the face to the sport that she’s probably going to race 2x this year.
absolutely agree. it’s actually pathetic to follow her on SM these days. she gets a little fame (for being a great runner) and all of a sudden she thinks she is a model and need to do the red carpet constantly. let’s be honest here, had she not won an olympic gold she would not have gotten a single modeling job. get over yourself gf and remember what took you here, if you abandon that, you are just another wannabe in the long line of wannabes.
I think it is even more weird that Mu is not doing anything..not 400's where she can still easily compete with the best..obviously..or pushing her mileage a bit to see if she can run a 1500 competitively. I do not think they need to run that much really, as they are both the best in the world or were clearly. But competing a little? Come on now..this sport is based on competing, not just building up two meet resumes. There are other challenges out there..off distances etc. I think this is one area that turns folks off..matchups are out there..could be entertaining.
One word: ridiculous. The World Champs are in three months, it is time to start running some races now. Heck some Marathon runners race more times per year than Syd and Athing.
Yes, I hope that all top athletes make regular appearances in DL meets at least. That is why i am a big fan of Bol (female)
I agree, I root for Bol and Hodgkinson, Muir, etc. they actually run races...looking forward to the Diamond League Series
"To be frank, this is an embarrassing and selfish decision by Kersee, and it should piss off American track fans in my view".
WTF!
Yeah!, it's disappointing that two of the world's most talented runners will not be competing. We can all agree to that, but no one on this thread has a clue as to why Bob Kersee made this decision, and or Athing and Sydney. It could be many things, nonetheless, Bob Kersee is one of the most accomplished track coaches in the world and if he feels his athletes aren't ready to compete...they aren't ready to compete...PERIOD. To make the above statement is idiotic and lame. this is BIG TIME track and field, not some high school regional meet. Being fully prepared both mentally and physically is paramount to performing on the world stage this upcoming summer.
It's you that is selfish and you that should be embarrassed for making such an shallow minded comment.
This is where T&F differs from other BIG TIME sports. Events should be announced far in advance and athletes should be scheduled and expected to compete far in advance. The public should be aware, interest should be generated and the expectation is that the athlete will show up, barring a real injury or illness. If the latter occurs, it should be public knowledge, especially if tickets have already been sold so to speak. Steph Curry doesn’t skip games because he’s “not ready to compete!” If you are scheduled to compete, you compete and do your best. I don’t care if Syd is not ready to break the wr again, and I don’t care if she might lose an off race to Bol or whoever. I’m sure she’ll be totally ready in August, but that doesn’t mean she can’t compete now. What’s wrong with this expectation? This is what it should mean to be a pro.
I agree with most of this post, with exception of Steph Curry and many other big time elite athletes, who take pre-determined games off and or managed minutes (load management). Athletes want to compete and not just train, this is a fact. This is the beginning of a long summer, including a world championship and if you're nicked up and not fully healthy you don't just go out run and hope not to get hurt. That's just stupid.
That being said, I may need to back track a bit due to new information with regard to appearance fees/money that Bob Kersee is seeking which may be the reason for them not competing, if that's the case, I completely agree that this is a lame move by BK and only hurts the sport. People are paying to see great performances and great racing.
Bobby Kersee just gave a lengthy interview with the Orange Country Register and shared a ton of interesting details.
-Claims McLaughlin-Levrone irritated her hamstring and that's why she is out of the LA meet -Says Mu got COVID a week ago and it threw her off her game -SML will run flat 400 at USAs, Mu will run 1500
He also thinks Mu could double in the 800/1500 at the '24 Olympics:
"The 800/1500 or 400/800 has been done and I think Athing has that ability and I think if the schedule allows it, it would be nice to see for a woman to double the 8 and 15 at a very high level with the potential to gold medal in both."
Also says SML and Mu won't race each other in a 400.
"'No, no, no,' Kersee when asked about the potential 400 matchup. 'No. They train (together) enough. Racing them together is not needed. Particularly for me. … It would not make any sense for me to put them together.'"
What do you guys think? I wonder how much of having Mu do the 800/1500 is making sure she doesn't race Sydney in the 400. Mu was more of a 400/800 runner in college (she set the NCAA 400 record!) and her 1500 pb is only 4:16. Plus Kersee has no history coaching the 1500. Doesn't make any sense to me to put Mu in the 1500. Heck, I'm not even sure she'll make the US final in that event.
Their coach Bob Kersee said setbacks that will keep them out of next week’s Los Angeles Grand Prix will not prevent them from challenging two of track’s oldest world records.
Bobby Kersee just gave a lengthy interview with the Orange Country Register and shared a ton of interesting details.
-Claims McLaughlin-Levrone irritated her hamstring and that's why she is out of the LA meet -Says Mu got COVID a week ago and it threw her off her game -SML will run flat 400 at USAs, Mu will run 1500
He also thinks Mu could double in the 800/1500 at the '24 Olympics:
"The 800/1500 or 400/800 has been done and I think Athing has that ability and I think if the schedule allows it, it would be nice to see for a woman to double the 8 and 15 at a very high level with the potential to gold medal in both."
Also says SML and Mu won't race each other in a 400.
"'No, no, no,' Kersee when asked about the potential 400 matchup. 'No. They train (together) enough. Racing them together is not needed. Particularly for me. … It would not make any sense for me to put them together.'"
What do you guys think? I wonder how much of having Mu do the 800/1500 is making sure she doesn't race Sydney in the 400. Mu was more of a 400/800 runner in college (she set the NCAA 400 record!) and her 1500 pb is only 4:16. Plus Kersee has no history coaching the 1500. Doesn't make any sense to me to put Mu in the 1500. Heck, I'm not even sure she'll make the US final in that event.
I agree with you, protecting a rep by no head to head matchups, is unnecessary, they are both have secured their spot in their event hierarchy to venture out and take a shot elsewhere. I also agree that so far..so far MU is a lot more dangerous for thw world scene at 400 than 15, I would have hoped she had moved up effectively by now, but who even knows , she races so little. I do not now how you test unless you race it. You can do indicator workouts all day long, when the gun goes off, it is just different.
Bobby Kersee just gave a lengthy interview with the Orange Country Register and shared a ton of interesting details.
-Claims McLaughlin-Levrone irritated her hamstring and that's why she is out of the LA meet -Says Mu got COVID a week ago and it threw her off her game -SML will run flat 400 at USAs, Mu will run 1500
He also thinks Mu could double in the 800/1500 at the '24 Olympics:
"The 800/1500 or 400/800 has been done and I think Athing has that ability and I think if the schedule allows it, it would be nice to see for a woman to double the 8 and 15 at a very high level with the potential to gold medal in both."
Also says SML and Mu won't race each other in a 400.
"'No, no, no,' Kersee when asked about the potential 400 matchup. 'No. They train (together) enough. Racing them together is not needed. Particularly for me. … It would not make any sense for me to put them together.'"
What do you guys think? I wonder how much of having Mu do the 800/1500 is making sure she doesn't race Sydney in the 400. Mu was more of a 400/800 runner in college (she set the NCAA 400 record!) and her 1500 pb is only 4:16. Plus Kersee has no history coaching the 1500. Doesn't make any sense to me to put Mu in the 1500. Heck, I'm not even sure she'll make the US final in that event.
Wow, a lot of interesting news, and in fact the news about Mu is sort of shocking. BK, a famous sprint coach has a woman who is surely a 48-49 sec 400 meter runner, and a runner to boot who’s shown little to nothing at 1500, and a runner that seems borderline interested in the sport (ie not too interested in putting in the miles to train for the 1500) YET he’s suggesting he’s going to coach her up to contend for the 1500 Olympic gold? Mu is WAY more likely to win gold in the 400 than beat Kipyegon in the 1500. That’s NEVER going to happen unless Kipyegon is out. The whole thing sounds absurd. I hope the sole motivation for this idea is NOT just keeping Syd and Mu from stepping on each other’s toes. Why can’t they race at the 400? Aren’t Fisher and Teare going to race at 5000? Aren’t Hoare and Yared going to race a 1500??
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Thanks for the update Jonathan. I'd still love to see Sydney and Athing and Paulino and Britton Wilson have at it over 400. That would be fun and fast! Here is a brief bit I was going to post before reading Jonathan's update bit there.
Safan Hassan vs. Faith Kipyegon; Steve Ovett vs. Sebastian Coe; Allyson Felix vs. Victoria Campbell, Justin Gatlin vs. Usain Bolt, Jeremy Wariner vs. Lashawn Merritt; Daniel Komen and Haile Gebrselassie and Kenenise Bikele . . . one against the other against the records. The runner vs. the record vs. the stop watch. Our sport is all about the matchups. I could not wait to watch Sydney face off against some of the best 400 meter runners in LA this weekend. Especially World / Olympic silver medalist Marileidy Paulino. And . . . also hyped to watch Athing Mu stretch it out again in the 800. If the athletes (and their coaches) aren't interested in putting on a show for the fans, why should we care? To say anything more here, I'd just be repeating what others have already said. How disappointing.
"Bobby Kersee just gave a lengthy interview with the Orange Country Register and shared a ton of interesting details."
So despite the super stars having their own social media accounts, huge following, their coach has to explain in an interview what's going on?! Why then having those social media accounts?? What is the problem saying "Hey guys, I got Covid, I won't be racing until a little later. Stay tuned, big things are in the works!" ?!
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Safan Hassan vs. Faith Kipyegon; Steve Ovett vs. Sebastian Coe; Allyson Felix vs. Victoria Campbell, Justin Gatlin vs. Usain Bolt, Jeremy Wariner vs. Lashawn Merritt; Daniel Komen and Haile Gebrselassie and Kenenise Bikele . . . one against the other against the records. The runner vs. the record vs. the stop watch.
Our sport is all about the matchups.
Coe and Ovett raced against each other several times in total, and four of them were Olympic finals.
Bobby Kersee just gave a lengthy interview with the Orange Country Register and shared a ton of interesting details.
-Claims McLaughlin-Levrone irritated her hamstring and that's why she is out of the LA meet -Says Mu got COVID a week ago and it threw her off her game -SML will run flat 400 at USAs, Mu will run 1500
He also thinks Mu could double in the 800/1500 at the '24 Olympics:
"The 800/1500 or 400/800 has been done and I think Athing has that ability and I think if the schedule allows it, it would be nice to see for a woman to double the 8 and 15 at a very high level with the potential to gold medal in both."
Also says SML and Mu won't race each other in a 400.
"'No, no, no,' Kersee when asked about the potential 400 matchup. 'No. They train (together) enough. Racing them together is not needed. Particularly for me. … It would not make any sense for me to put them together.'"
What do you guys think? I wonder how much of having Mu do the 800/1500 is making sure she doesn't race Sydney in the 400. Mu was more of a 400/800 runner in college (she set the NCAA 400 record!) and her 1500 pb is only 4:16. Plus Kersee has no history coaching the 1500. Doesn't make any sense to me to put Mu in the 1500. Heck, I'm not even sure she'll make the US final in that event.
Wow, a lot of interesting news, and in fact the news about Mu is sort of shocking. BK, a famous sprint coach has a woman who is surely a 48-49 sec 400 meter runner, and a runner to boot who’s shown little to nothing at 1500, and a runner that seems borderline interested in the sport (ie not too interested in putting in the miles to train for the 1500) YET he’s suggesting he’s going to coach her up to contend for the 1500 Olympic gold? Mu is WAY more likely to win gold in the 400 than beat Kipyegon in the 1500. That’s NEVER going to happen unless Kipyegon is out. The whole thing sounds absurd. I hope the sole motivation for this idea is NOT just keeping Syd and Mu from stepping on each other’s toes. Why can’t they race at the 400? Aren’t Fisher and Teare going to race at 5000? Aren’t Hoare and Yared going to race a 1500??
This is disturbing news, Mu could medal in the 400/800 if the schedule lines up correctly. She is not an 1500 meter runner nor does she show the interest in doing the training it takes to run 3:56 at least. Too bad she got sick again, she will have her hands full with Hodgkinson and Moraa.
Syd will have stiff competition with Femke Bol especially if she is not 100%.
I do not think is it a good idea for Syd and Athing to train together as fans will never see them in the same race, a 400 meter race with Syd, Athing and Femke Bol would be exciting for the fans.
Time will tell, looks like we will not see much of these two this year in the Diamond League races.
Tbh this all sounds bizarre and if true Mu has made a massive mistake going to this coach. She has WAY more potential at 400 than 1500, everyone in athletics knows that. So a switch would only be to avoid racing his other star which is dumb beyond words.
As for the 1500 remember when Laura Muir was running 3.55 and missing a medal? Is Mu really going to go sub 3.55?
Bobby Kersee just gave a lengthy interview with the Orange Country Register and shared a ton of interesting details.
-Claims McLaughlin-Levrone irritated her hamstring and that's why she is out of the LA meet -Says Mu got COVID a week ago and it threw her off her game -SML will run flat 400 at USAs, Mu will run 1500
He also thinks Mu could double in the 800/1500 at the '24 Olympics:
"The 800/1500 or 400/800 has been done and I think Athing has that ability and I think if the schedule allows it, it would be nice to see for a woman to double the 8 and 15 at a very high level with the potential to gold medal in both."
Also says SML and Mu won't race each other in a 400.
"'No, no, no,' Kersee when asked about the potential 400 matchup. 'No. They train (together) enough. Racing them together is not needed. Particularly for me. … It would not make any sense for me to put them together.'"
What do you guys think? I wonder how much of having Mu do the 800/1500 is making sure she doesn't race Sydney in the 400. Mu was more of a 400/800 runner in college (she set the NCAA 400 record!) and her 1500 pb is only 4:16. Plus Kersee has no history coaching the 1500. Doesn't make any sense to me to put Mu in the 1500. Heck, I'm not even sure she'll make the US final in that event.
To echo some other folks on here, I will no longer be rooting for Mu. Shame, really - she grew up in Trenton, which is right around the corner from me, with an incredible personal story - first generation American from immigrant parents who escaped violence in their home country, and worked her butt off to become one of the best 800m runners in history. I know no one cares if some rando dude on the Internet is disillusioned with her, but I think a lot of people think similarly to me - it’s a slap in the face to the sport that she’s probably going to race 2x this year.
I wonder how Mu will sleep tonight now that you are no longer rooting for her!
Safan Hassan vs. Faith Kipyegon; Steve Ovett vs. Sebastian Coe; Allyson Felix vs. Victoria Campbell, Justin Gatlin vs. Usain Bolt, Jeremy Wariner vs. Lashawn Merritt; Daniel Komen and Haile Gebrselassie and Kenenise Bikele . . . one against the other against the records. The runner vs. the record vs. the stop watch.
Our sport is all about the matchups.
Coe and Ovett raced against each other several times in total, and four of them were Olympic finals.
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