Haverford Runner Leaves Team After Allegation of Sexual Assault, No Charges Brought, Sues to Get Back on Team

Anyone who thinks title 9 things are a black and white situation is a clown. These things are almost always complicated and have tons of intercacy to them.

Intercracy, huh? What a great point.

The Occam's Razor here is that this kid is a tool that nobody likes, and therefore even though there is no actual Title IX claim against him, they don't want him on the team and that's that.

From the additional context (fifth-generation, had his grandma intervene on his behalf), he sounds like a spoiled, whiny crybaby loser and should just move on instead of complaining and crying like a little bxtch.

a ultra-left college with a $70k tuition bill...haverford is liberal af but not left in the slightest. The student body may be full of champagne socialists and people who think Trotsky was cool, but the administration is as neo-lib as it gets

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Funny if you had mentioned the athlete by name you would have defamed him. And your reliance on an Occam’s razor argument shows the strength of your argument in opposition to some solid facts. Why don’t you grow up and accept that this appears to be a collossal failure on behalf of the school and other students.

Funny if you had mentioned the athlete by name you would have defamed him. And your reliance on an Occam’s razor argument shows the strength of your argument in opposition to some solid facts. Why don’t you grow up and accept that this appears to be a collossal failure on behalf of the school and other students. Your argument that they don’t like him actually furthers doe’s point that the other student and school keeps moving the goal posts to justify their poor behavior.

Ok let me put it to you this way. Let’s say the athlete was acting like a jerk. Why wasn’t he booted then? Courts are gonna look at this pattern of facts and say “pretext”. If he was a jerk people are gonna have to come forward and say when, where, what was said and why it wasn’t addressed then.

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Yea I’m sure. But to be honest I don’t know why the captains thought it was a good idea to get involved with this. All your gonna do is end up in a mess of contract law and potential title IXs yourselves. If I were them I would have just let the school deal with it. Rather than get involved.

Well I assume if the guys on the team know so well they will be showing up to court to present their evidence in support of the rape if they don’t I think any jury would side with Mr. Doe. It’s sad that there are people on this thread that love to play with hypotheticals “Oh well she could have decide to not file a complaint…” yea well look at the actual facts and the stated reason by the person who was most affected by this. Also nobody has discussed the part about Tom telling Mr. Doe that he had psychological problems, jeez, I hate to say it but I don’t care how well renound Tom is wtf is that. This situation seems like a nightmare all around, clearly a campaign of harassment.

I’d like to self reflect on how to end Title IX which has turned into an anti male crusade.

Tom Donnelly would beat up every coach in the Centennial Conference easily. You think you can just pick up 120's and curl them? Testosterone Tom will grab 150's. No other coach is that vascular. No other coach can wear the sweat wicking clothing. Tom looks like he should make a living chopping down redwoods and lipping half a can of grizzly, not spending his time at a f*cking Chick fil A window like BVA. You know who won't have a coronary mid 10k? Tom F*cking Donnelly. He can bench press your wife before he lovingly lays her down in dew covered ferns and makes passionate love to her.

first off, this is an academic/court issue now, one assumes. what i read he was in his last semester spring 23 begging to be let back on. kid is probably graduated a year now. IMO his opportunity was to transfer if he wanted to play, he knew he was being told no. he can chase money by lawsuit but good luck with that.

second, those attacking the coaching decision are conflating school discipline with coaching roster control. coach can say, i don't care what the disciplinary committee said, i don't like you, i believe the accusers, i have a duty to protect my kids, and i have a list of women threatening to quit my team if i let you play. "i don't like you" is sufficient.

your resume isn't a shield. i was our HS's best hurdler. i got crossways with the hurdle coach. i became a sprinter that day forward. i don't get to sue and say, but i was 3rd in district as a soph. "but look at my resume."

the arguments based on "captain" are some mix of dated and circular. it strikes me as just a different resume reference. plus methinks if you were crossways with the coach and perhaps your own team, you weren't going to be captain again.

Have you considered the immense emotional and financial toll of not being allowed to run DIII?

how much actual track did he ever run? what i read he was asked off the team in 21. still trying to make the team in 23. haverford cancelled 2020. team had two 2021 meets, and i don't know if he ran any.

setting aside morality, dude was cleared on title IX and by the school. for all of his fighting that was a clean "reputation" bill of health to go to the next college. dude couldn't have run much at all and should have had most or all of 4-5 years left. mix of covid eligibility and redshirt.

transfer. duh.

couple more factual nitpicks.

1-the victim declining to complain/file charges is not the same thing as, didn't happen. and unless it happens out in the open in front of a frat party, "becky ran off disheveled and sobbing after they went into a bedroom together" might be enough to start title IX, but not to get it anywhere, if "becky" refuses to be involved.

2-what i read the other captains -- not the coach -- made the decision, which was backed by the coach.

"Not 100% sure as I was reading quickly but student may deny any sexual activity took place. Very confusing case."

Didn't read the facts. Don't know the facts. Think I'll start a thread!

I think the point is, if there were even the slightest bit of credibility to the accusations the school would have had an obligation to investigate it. Almost all schools have a four-step process for title IX: 1) report 2) complaint 3) investigation 4) finding of responsibility/no responsibility. In this case we did not even get to step 2. If the school had though the athlete had done something wrong, they could have gone to step 2 but opted not to, it was clearly a rumor. Even if the school had made it to step 3 the athlete would have still been allowed to participate until the process had been completed.