LetsRun anti-doping challenge #1 - What can the sport do to clean itself up?

wejo · 2022-10-25T12:14:44-04:00

LetsRun.com poster Chen Huang came up with this idea and deserves all the credit.The idea is for everyone to post their ideas on what the sport can do to improve its anti-doping efforts. The ideas can be large or small.You post your idea, others vote on it with the upvote and downvote system, and we try and come up with a few of the best ideas to submit to the AIU or USADA or WADA. We are going to allow discussion of the ideas in this thread (originally the thought was to only let ideas be submitted with upvotes and downvotes) but the focus is on people submitting their ideas. Thoughtful discussion though hopefully will help people refine their proposals.We're making it registered users only and we are giving Chen a LetsRun shirt for coming up with this and hopefully others will have great ideas that we can reward as well.***More from Chen on how he came up with this: If you take a look at all the doping-related threads we have, they all end up the same: one group of people are saying "everyone is doping" or "all kenyans are dirty" and then another group of guys will comment on how racists the first group are. Those threads are ok but super boring to be honest. I am really interested to see how many of those guys actually care to share some ideas to improve the situation. Of course, by "ideas" I meant those that at least have some legit reasoning and thus a chance to be implemented. If any of the ideas ever get adopted by a major race or WA, guys who "come up with" the ideas are allowed to shamelessly claim their credits and are rewarded with a letsrun shirt for bragging rights or you could put them into letsrun's Hall of Fame or something.****Ok start posting and maybe you could be the first one in the LetsRun Hall of Fame:)

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3 years ago 11/03/2022 3:21am EDT

re: Coevett

A top Kenyan official has admitted that Kenya is close to being banned from athletics. It's an interesting article and I posted it here because the thread from UKAthleticsCoach titled 'Time to ban Kenya' has been deleted, and the two Kipchoge threads have been completely rekrunnered. The Brojos should be aware that a lot of threads discussing the doping problem in Kenya get deleted by their mods. The article also indicates why so many Kenyans are getting popped for triamcinolone acetonide.

"But there's an attempt to evade detection by using a substance that can be used therapeutically with the right medical excuse," he added.
"Fortunately with our intelligence, in assistance with our local partner in ADAK, we've managed to get on top of this quickly and discovered what was going on."

sports.yahoo.com

Kenyan athletics mired in new doping scandal

Kenya's athletics reputation is once again taking a pummelling after the suspension this year of an unusually large number of long distance runners for suspected doping.

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3 years ago 11/04/2022 5:23am EDT

UK Athletics published a list of proposals a few years ago, and many of them have been listed in this thread.

athleticsweekly.com

UKA calls for "radical reform" with manifesto for clean athletics - AW

Resetting world records and longer bans for drug cheats among suggestions made by the national governing body

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athleticsweekly.com

UK Athletics launches 'Clean Athletics' brand - AW

National governing body's chairman Ed Warner says there is concern that "the pace of change remains too slow"

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3 years ago 11/04/2022 7:09am EDT

re: Coevett

Coevett wrote:
UK Athletics published a list of proposals a few years ago, and many of them have been listed in this thread.
Link:athleticsweekly.com/featured/uka-calls...
Link:athleticsweekly.com/featured/uk-athlet...

I think it's worthwhile mentioning that when these came out Neil Black and Barry Fudge were still at UKA, so somewhat hypocritical.

3 years ago 11/04/2022 7:22am EDT

re: wejo

It won't catch new drugs that they don't have to test for, but it will work for other drugs. Testing at random times means that they won't have the time to remove drugs from their system - EPO, for example, clears in three days.

3 years ago 11/04/2022 9:28am EDT

re: Temp Oh

Temp Oh wrote:
I think it's worthwhile mentioning that when these came out Neil Black and Barry Fudge were still at UKA, so somewhat hypocritical.

They also recommended "greater transparency", while at the same time discouraging the athletes from being transparent and publishing their blood values.

UK Sport should mandate all lottery-funded athletes in Great Britain to have their tests available on a public register maintained by UKAD

LOL - that was in January 2016!

And of course "resetting the clock on world records for a new era" never happened.

3 years ago 11/08/2022 4:26am EST

casual obsever wrote:
+1
If the letsrun mods would stop deleting posts that prove the pro-doper crowd wrong (for thread derailing, lol), that would go a long way in exposing the extent of doping. But apparently that's against letsrun policy. Let's just all put our heads into the sand.

They have just deleted two more threads discussing Kenyan doping that were on the first page.

3 years ago 11/08/2022 6:41am EST

re: Coevett

Coevett wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
+1
If the letsrun mods would stop deleting posts that prove the pro-doper crowd wrong (for thread derailing, lol), that would go a long way in exposing the extent of doping. But apparently that's against letsrun policy. Let's just all put our heads into the sand.
They have just deleted two more threads discussing Kenyan doping that were on the first page.

Yes, I see that. Kenyan doping is out of control but the mods would prefer we not acknowledge that. There isn't much hope of "cleaning up the sport" when denial of the problem is the preferred attitude. But it suits some here.

3 years ago 11/10/2022 12:05pm EST

re: wejo

3 years ago 12/07/2022 2:37pm EST

re: wejo

Has a winner been declared?

3 years ago 12/07/2022 3:38pm EST

re: Coevett

Coevett wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
+1
If the letsrun mods would stop deleting posts that prove the pro-doper crowd wrong (for thread derailing, lol), that would go a long way in exposing the extent of doping. But apparently that's against letsrun policy. Let's just all put our heads into the sand.
They have just deleted two more threads discussing Kenyan doping that were on the first page.

Thanks to PhDoping's thread bump, I just noticed that they deleted my post that you cited, but not your answer.

Your post was deleted.
Reason provided:
Factually Incorrect

ROFL

3 years ago 12/07/2022 5:23pm EST

re: PhDoping

PhDoping wrote:
Has a winner been declared?

I would like to know what the LetsRun anti-doping challenge #2 is going to be.

3 years ago 12/10/2022 7:54am EST

re: Coevett

Coevett wrote:
I would like to know what the LetsRun anti-doping challenge #2 is going to be.

I think it should be to stop the LetsRun mods from deleting Kenyan related doping threads.

3 years ago 12/10/2022 11:42am EST

re: Coevett

I think the first major step towards cleaning up the sport is to add the Kenyans to the Russians on the banned list.

3 years ago 12/10/2022 12:01pm EST

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
I think the first major step towards cleaning up the sport is to add the Kenyans to the Russians on the banned list.

The first major step towards cleaning up the forum is to add Armstronglivs and Coevett to the banned list.

3 years ago 12/10/2022 12:05pm EST

re: Kathy2

Kathy2 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I think the first major step towards cleaning up the sport is to add the Kenyans to the Russians on the banned list.
The first major step towards cleaning up the forum is to add Armstronglivs and Coevett to the banned list.

So you aren't concerned about the epidemic of actual doping in the sport - denial suits you better?

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