Niels Laros 17, year old Dutch kid runs 1:46.30

Nah it was an old east german record from the 70s by Olympic and world bronze medallist Hansjörg Kunze

Very impressive, almost nine seconds ahead of Lex's 17 year old time this year. Only a second back of German's age 18 indoor time at Ok State. Laros is faster than every American middle distance runner at 17 in history with 1:46.3/3:39/7:48. The 800m and 3000m are better than the American hs records, the 3k by a lot, and the 1500m is about equal to Jim Ryun's Olympic trials performance in 1964 at 17, which is the best age 17 time, I believe.

10 PBs (and 2 SB) in that race out of 14 finishers.

So many guys are still in such good shape in mid September. I don’t believe that there are any meets left (except for Bellinzona tomorrow). Guys will be leaving great fitness on the table. It’s so difficult to bring up your fitness to PB levels…. It’s unfortunate that they will not get another chance.

For Laros, it doesn’t matter. He has many years ahead of him.

IAAF points 2017 give:

1134 for 1:46.3 800m

1127 for 7:48.0 3000m

1120 for 3:39.0 1500m

https://caltaf.com/pointscalc/calc.html

Jakob Ingebrigtsen at 16 1:49.40/3:39.92/3:56.29/8:00.01/8:26.81 ST/13:35.84

The Steeple (at age 16!) is worth 1140 IAAF points, better than any of Laros's age 17 performances.

Jakob Ingebrigtsen at 17 -/3:31.18/3:52.28/- (7:56.74i)/13:17.06

3:31.18 is worth 1228 IAAF points.

He next ran an 800m pr at 19, 1:46.44, and next ran an outdoor 3k at 19, two days before his 20th birthday, in 7:27.05.

Needless to say, Laros is doing fantastic for his age. There's every reason to think he'll be among the world elite in three years, though obviously, he'll require a big leap at 1500 and 3k to do so. He certainly has the makings of the 800/1500 abilities of the best of the 1980s.

2nd fastest U20 at only aged 17. Do you think he might be doping?

Off course Ingebrigtsen has an incredible talent, will probably be one of the greatest ever. Laros has got something to prove. But take note that Jakob ran most of the times mentioned above in summer season when was almost 18 (September kid). Niels (April) has still about 7 months left, unfortunately mainly xc and indoor season. maybe some track meetings (?) in March / April. But whatever, his development is spectacular.

Off course Ingebrigtsen has an incredible talent, will probably be one of the greatest ever. Laros has got something to prove. But take note that Jakob ran most of the times mentioned above in summer season when was almost 18 (September kid). Niels (April) has still about 7 months left, unfortunately mainly xc and indoor season. maybe some track meetings (?) in March / April. But whatever, his development is spectacular.

- What do you think are the chances he might be doping?

With performances like that at age only 17 does it raise the possibility he is doping?

In my opinion very small. Although one cannot be sure of any athlete in the world I also think it’s very, very unfair (at least) to speculate if there’s no direct clue at all. Off course his recent development is spectacular but not totally strange looking to his past and results as a youngster. Not as one of those many overtrained prodigies who burn out early and don’t make it. But as smart boy surrounded with the right trainers and a good running family. Also his body looks very well-equipped for the middle distance. This season he intensified training. Last spring joined the national squad on an altitude training camp in South Africa for the first time and recently moved to the national sports centre (Papendal). It seems to pay off and he now probably is at the start of a great career.
No mercy for the cheaters but so far this boy has done nothing wrong. So, instead of speculating and gossiping, you could also try to enjoy. Some do have real talent.

Nice