GRANT FISHER WAS ROBBED

That's factually incorrect. Krop was not passing. He was ahead of Fisher the entire time from about 650 meters out.

Did you not watch Teare's race as USA's? My man passed the entire field on the outside in the last 100.

Thanks for posting. That makes it pretty clear that Grant was cut off, actually. Looks like Grant moved inward to try to avoid collision, but so much so that he was directly over the rail

I agree that Krop was not passing, though. He was moving back to the rail after making a failed bid to pass Ingebrigtsen. At the same time, Grant had been gearing up to pass Krop on the inside and got cut off. Following that, Grant may have been clipped from behind as he slowed to make space. Mo Ahmed was accelerating directly behind Grant right at the moment he slowed

I was there as well, and saw what took place. Your comments are accurate.

I looked and reviewed the race several times and your comments are accurate.

Terrible outcome for Grant.

Yes, I believe he would have been in the medals.

He was in his wind-up stage when he was cut in on by the Kenyan runner Krop who ended up second.

Grant Fisher will have opportunity again at world championship events and Olympics.

Cant understand why there are jealous and hater posters about Grant Fisher other than some people have major psychological inadequacies that they want to tear down those that achieve.

He got cut off plain and simple.

Krop was on inside of lane 2 and As soon as JI moved away he tried to slide directly in front of Fisher. He cut way to the rail and did not have quite enough room, without breaking the rules, to do so without impeding Fisher.

Should got DQ'd. But they didn't protest, did they?

Time for a Letsrun poll to see how many people think he would have ended up in the medals if he hadn't been cut off

Fisher positioned himself so poorly, not to mention it is certainly far from debatable that he would be able to medal. Hope he learns from this.

It happened way too far behind the finish line for anyone to reasonable say he would would medal. Within 10m of the finish line - completely different story.

He could have avoided that situation... Fisher should just try to learn from this.

If you need to be doing too much maneuvering with 150 to go in a 5k you are wrong. You can't jeopardize your forward momentum in a race like that. Poor tactics.

Credibility check. To what competitive level have or did you achieve?

What hasn't been said yet is that Fisher was hanging in Krops blind spot, the same blind spot that you have when driving a car. Fisher was behind and to the left of Krop, and Krop head and eyes were looking ahead through the curve. He never saw Fisher when he couldn't pass Ingebrigtsen and tucked in instead. Just like when driving, don't hang out too long in someone's blind spot. Unlike a public road, people aren't required to signal lane changes track. Similar to car racing, you need your wits.

If you don't think that's a blind spot, look straight ahead and hold your arms up out to the side. Your hands disappear from view at that point, and Fisher was considerably farther back from Krop's field of view.

I'll add that Krop didn't intentionally cut off Fisher. No one uses their legs on the back part of their stride to cut into someone. That would be asking to trip yourself. He clearly didn't see Fisher. Fisher could/should have anticipated that, being in Krop's blind spot and it being on a curve with Ingebrigtsen leaving the curb open by pulling away. Of course someone would move to the curb. Even if he couldn't predict everything, he should feel uneasy when running in someone's blind spot, just like I feel uneasy driving through another car's blind spot.

Racing track not in lanes is a messy thing that requires wits. If you really want DQs for every little perceived infraction strictly, you'd have to DQ a significant fraction of the field in every competitive track race ever run. People are cutting each other off right from the start of races getting position. That's just the nature of racing. People trying to get to the same spots, each with limited reaction time, different determination, moving on instinct. Raevyn Rogers admits that she isn't that aware of how she ends up where she is in an 800, she gets bounce around so much. That goes for half the field. It's messy, but more exciting than racing in lanes.

You know what runners say about finishes. Don't look back. Krop didn't look back.

I thought Fisher ran well and was in good position.
Many people have medaled but sticking to the rail.
Krop cut in without having the space and caused the stumble, as Fisher was maintaining his pace.

But even if Krop was DQed, that wouldn’t give Fisher a medal.

The no call was appropriate, but I have seen less called a DQ on this stage.

Agree with your points.

Your last two sentences undoubtedly went through Grant Fishers mind and his coaches. Being the classy guy that he is he didn’t pursue the DQ process.

However, having raced Kenyans (granted a long time ago) they tended to be spastic racers at times and at times dirty from a North Americans perspective. Fast forward to now and my first hand observations and experience, way back when, are still the same based on what I see.

I know such a statement will cause some to down vote but thems the facts if you have had international racing experience.

Find an example of someone in a pro meet being DQed for less in a pro track meet. Good luck you can’t. Grant was in a dangerous spot and riskily tried to move up on the inside of a runner in front of him who had other ideas independent of Grants position. He didn’t give Krop a hand on his back to let him know he was there and he didn’t get side to side with Krop. He was cut off from his inside move but it was not close to a DQ. He’ll learn from it and go wide or make sure he establishes position inside.

Perhaps Krops’ “other ideas” knowing he couldn’t go with Jacob while positioned outside lane one was to drop down to the inside rail for a shorter route and he didn’t give a hoot if he cut off another runner (Grant) in the process.

Sure Grant will learn from this and other racing experiences he will have on the international stage. No doubt, he is a smart guy and a smart runner. He ran his race perfectly. Had Krop not cut in on him he would have medaled. The unpredictability of other runners will be something Grant learns from.

Nevertheless, I stand by my observations of the race (having been right there) and my opinions previously stated.

And I’ll add: In a full out sprint arms a pumping you don’t put a hand on a persons shoulder to let them know you are there. That only happens during the race when the pace is slower and there is opportunity for such.