Roe v Wade just got overturned official thread

Senator from CT and he is correct.

Let’s be 100% clear. If Republicans win control of the House, Senate and White House two years from now, they will pass a national abortion ban. And no matter where you live, no matter how pro-choice your state is, women and doctors will be locked up for practicing health care.

..only question is if the Rs eliminate the filibuster to get it done.

Oh, right - the political leaders who respected established law can be blamed for the actions of a soon-to-be prosecuted insurrectionist leader who didn't.

Dems had 50 years and in that period they controlled the senate, house, and presidency for multiple years. How come they didnt pass a law making abortion legal?

I'm sure the red states that don't allow abortion will have no problem coughing up the extra hundred million $ or so, per year, for the new welfare, AFDC, and unemployment claims from unwed mothers that will result in their state. Of course, it will increase every year while a new year's batch of unwed mothers file claims. It should level off at some billions of never-ending new state expenses after 20 years or so.

I don't really know much about the healthcare costs that will be incurred, but I would imagine unwed mothers (who tend to be poor) will end up at the county hospital needing care they can't pay for. The average pregnancy cost is roughly $13,000, more for pre and post natal, so another 5,000 of those a year for your state is only $65,000,000 for the government to cough up.

That's such a small price to pay! You did plan on your state income taxes going up to pay for all this, right? Maybe the federal government will bail you out (that is, the blue states.)

But your state can always budget for some new law enforcement to go after deadbeat dads more seriously. Otherwise the cost to the state budget will be rather alarming. Oh, wait, more law enforcement costs tax dollars.

How about bringing back "shotgun weddings"? I always thought those were cute in the cartoons when I was a kid! If dad won't hold the shotgun, maybe the police will do it for him? A court order to get married might work!

You "pro-lifers" did have a plan for all of these expenses, right? Unwed mothers are only assumed to cost the government at least $112 billion nationwide in 2008. You want another few hundred thousand pregnancies and babies a year, with an unwilling parent, most of them young and broke-- so you have a realistic plan for making sure they and their mothers are well taken care of, right? I want to hear it!

While we're taking control of people's bodies, how about mandatory DNA databases for all men in order to find dad, and mandatory vasectomies for deadbeat dads? That should help!

people really don't understand the filibuster. They just don't. example.

Time for the democrats with the help of Collins and Murkowski to end the filibuster and pass legislation enshrining access to abortion. Next step is to make abortion rights the foundational issue for the mid terms and hope this moves the needle to have the senate majority continue. This is the only hope to preserve this right. If the Republicans gain control of congress, you can bet they will do the same, end the filibuster, and ban abortion at the Federal level. State by state protections are in grave jeopardy. There is no reason to trust McConnell and his claim that he will continue the filibuster.

Correct. Young adults ages 18-29 support legal abortion 74% to 25%. For ages 30-49, support is 62% to 37%. 84% of people between 18-35 support gay marriage. Support for legal contraception is surely close to 99%.

Republicans cannot afford to leave these issues to the states. A significant majority of the people responsible for the lion's share of economic productivity in this country do not want to live in Christofascist states. Businesses will avoid Republican states if they know they will have a hard time attracting a competent workforce. The only way to avoid this is to level the playing field by dragging ALL of the states back into the 18th century.

Perfect example of pro-choice. Good for her.

Like Republicans haven't had abortions before. SMH

You're right. He helped Trump get elected and Trump appointed apostles for the Right to the SC. So while he loses the war in Ukraine Putin nonetheless still wins by sowing further division in the US. Go Vlad. Truly, the Impaler.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. However AFDC stopped existing over 20 years ago. Today its TANF and it only lasts for a maximum of 60 months.

There isn't a pro-life argument. It's solely religious. Republicans don't believe in this stuff other than in the case of pregnancy. I look forward to you donating your kidney to me if I need one, because you know, I have to right to life so you HAVE to give me that life.

Anti-abortion activists don't oppose or protest at fertility technology or fertility centers. Usually 6-12 embryos are created but only 1 is implanted into the womb. What do you think happens to the rest?

This ruling justifies throwing out the right to privacy which isn't in the constitution. Massive government surveillance is now legitimized.

This is a bad political result for Republicans.

They were once able to campaign on trying to overturn Roe.
Now they need to campaign defending it.

They never really wanted this result.

The filibuster isn't real. The fact of the matter is that Democrats could pass a law that codifies Roe v Wade today. Everybody knows it. The only thing stopping them is that a handful of the people in their own party refuse to do it, even though we all know that Republicans, who have proven one thousand times over that they have ZERO respect for "institutional norms," will happily override the filibuster if it suits them in the future.

The Democrats' refusal to put as much public pressure on the Manchinema moles as possible is their biggest failing. Appeasement has clearly not worked. It is long past time to call their bluff. They need to be told to toe the line or be stripped of off all their committee assignments and DNC fundraising. Let them try to survive as Independents or Republicans in the M.A.G.A. party. I would rather hand Mitch McConnell the Senate majority now than spend another 6 months listening to Dems whine about not being able to do anything when they control all three branches of government. "Aw shucks, Just vote harder next November!" isn't a message anyone wants to hear. These feckless, old aholes don't have an ounce of fight in them and those of us who still have most of our lives ahead of us have had enough of their BS.

My wife went to her OBGYN after the Roe opinion leaked. She asked about getting her tubes tied in case TX bans birth control. Her OBGYN said that since the Roe opinion leaked, they have been scheduling tubal ligations nonstop. I think we are going to see a very big increase in the number of women opting for sterilization at a young age because the prospect of going through child birth without the option of having an abortion if there are complications and the prospect of having to go out of state to find an abortion provider for an unwanted pregnancy are going to cause a lot of when to just say to hell with having kids and opt out permanently from having a family.