You have a second rate mind. This is not over and in the end there are no winners here. You want babies to be born but you don’t care about them at all after that.
That's just about the worst argument ever.
"Better off dead, instead of a tough life"
That's as bad as the "convenience" story.
Not dead, rather not born. Only an extreme minority would contend that a zygote, about half of which fail to implant in the uterus, is a fully formed person.
They support it enough. We’ll see if they come out and vote in the fall and in 2024.
I think there will be a backlash against the GOP, but I’m not confident it’ll be enough in the solidly red states to make an impact.
I’m very pessimistic and don’t see how the desires of the majority of American voters will be realized going forward.
I'm glad we don't have majority rule in the constitutional republic that is the United (not so much) States of America. Unfortunately, those who want to fundamentally change the United States of America desire to do away with the constitutional republic.
Not dead, rather not born. Only an extreme minority would contend that a zygote, about half of which fail to implant in the uterus, is a fully formed person.
The zygote then travels down the fallopian tube to the uterus. As it travels, its cells rapidly divide and it becomes a blastocyst. Once in the uterus, the blastocyst must implant in the lining in order to obtain the nourishment it needs to grow and survive. The embryonic period of development lasts from two weeks after conception through the eighth week, during which time the organism is known as an embryo.1 At the ninth week post-conception, the fetal period begins. From this point until birth, the organism is known as a fetus.
Abortions are performed on embryos, not zygotes, no?
I 100% believe that children resulting from rape are as deserving of protection as every other human is. I just don’t think that stopping abortions that result from rape will ever come to fruition in todays world full of uneducated people who don’t care for the rights of babies.
Yet every day you eat meat from a slaughtered animal that had higher cognitive ability and feelings than a 20 week fetus.
The Libertarian Party also have policies like decriminalizing drugs, sex work and gambling, are pro-gay marriage, pro-trans rights, support ending restrictions on immigration, are anti-capital punishment and have even proposed removing powers from the police to use excessive force.
Libertarianism originated with Marxists who viewed state enforcement of private property as being restrictive to liberty. It was then reinvented by right wingers advocating for freedom from government involvement in the economy and society.
More recently, right wingers in general now describe themselves as libertarian even if they don't subscribe to any socially liberal policies.
You can be right-wing or left-wing libertarian. Look up the political compass.
A leaked draft with 5 republican votes means this is final. Republicans are going to get to own this political decision from now until November. Democrats will be running on expanding the court to rescind this political ruling.
If the Democrats try to make this a major campaign issue for them it will be a disaster, which probably means they'll do it because they are so out of touch. Except in heavily progressive area's and in the MSM most American's are not going to care strongly about abortion now being a state level policy, which is what it should be based on the constitution, rather than federal government policy. The people who are going to go bonkers over this would never vote Republican under any circumstance. The Americans who are up for grabs in elections care way more about the economy, inflation, and what latest nonsense is being inserted into the schools. A swing voter in Virginia will not be influenced by whether Texas can now make abortion illegal in Texas.
Nope, and you don't get to intentionally kill me for needing a kidney either.
Do you understand that your death is end result of this scenario? My kidney is the only one in the world that can save your life. If I don’t give it to you in this scenario, you will not live.
Thank god that situation is nothing like a mother carrying a child, otherwise we would be in real trouble.
In all seriousness, whats wrong with letting states restrict or allow abortions how they see fit?
blue states already ban guns (which is CLEARLY STATED in the constitution as a RIGHT). I can't buy certain weapons here in NY and I CANNOT for the life of me own and carry one in NYC.
A red state wants to ban abortions is an issue for liberals?
the constitution does not clearly state that personal gun ownership/carrying is a right. No state bans guns
MSM headline: If abortion is banned, gay marriage could go next.
As if gay marriage is as important as life and death!
Gay marriage isn’t going anywhere. The public would never support removing it.
The public doesn't support banning abortion either. A vocal minority of extremista can impose it's opinion in a democracy. These loons will ban homosexual sex and restore slavery if they can.
From the wikipedia legalized abortion and crime effect website
"In 2020 a study by Donohue and Levitt was published in American Law and Economics Review to review the predictions of the original 2001 paper. Overall the authors concluded that the predictions did hold up with strong effects.[22] "We estimate that crime fell roughly 20% between 1997 and 2014 due to legalized abortion. The cumulative impact of legalized abortion on crime is roughly 45%, accounting for a very substantial portion of the roughly 50-55% overall decline from the peak of crime in the early 1990s." Levitt discusses this paper and the background and history of the original paper (including its criticisms) in an episode of the Freakonomics podcast."
No matter how you feel about abortion, if you’re intelligent and honest you should agree that Roe was a flagrantly terrible decision. It located a “right to abortion,” which is not in the Constitution, within the “right to privacy,” which is also not in the Constitution.
As a born and raised American living in Europe for a long time now, my standard of living ia higher and my freedoms are better protected in Europe than in in the us.
That because the United States continues to militarily occupy Western Europe almost 80 years after liberating it and continues to pay for much of the defense of Western Europe. If you like Europe so much, perhaps you would welcome the United States pulling its forces out (a good way to prevent abortion BTW) and letting an enlightened Europe deal with Russia on its own.
i support this because it might stop all the liberals from flooding my red state. stay in california please! stop moving here!
blue states already ban guns (which is CLEARLY STATED in the constitution as a RIGHT). I can't buy certain weapons here in NY and I CANNOT for the life of me own and carry one in NYC.
This decision was only a matter of time after Republicans successfully packed the court. It's only the beginning. At the moment, conservatives want us to believe that we're moving towards two Americas based on states rights: Blue America and Jeebus Land, where abortion and gay sex are illegal and all the public schools begin by saying a prayer to the Christian lord. But this would be economically untenable for red states. The majority of Americans do not want to be ruled by Christofascists. No large employer is going to locate to a Jeebus state if they can help it; they won't be able to attract enough workers. As soon as Republicans have the ability to do so, they will even the playing field by writing their wack-ass brand of Christianity into federal law. They will happily override the filibuster in the Senate to do it. There will be no blue state safe havens if they can help it.
Oh, and w/r/t the leak: It obviously came from Thomas, who has been outed as a Trump political operative by his wife, to ensure that nobody in the majority changes their mind and sides with Roberts.
Do you understand that your death is end result of this scenario? My kidney is the only one in the world that can save your life. If I don’t give it to you in this scenario, you will not live.
Thank god that situation is nothing like a mother carrying a child, otherwise we would be in real trouble.
It’s actually the exact same situation. The fetus requires the mothers body. If I required a kidney, under the reasoning that my mom is responsible for my life, then I could take my mothers kidney against her will. After all, she’s the one that had sex and is thus responsible for my growth, including access to her bodily functions to make this happen.
This decision was only a matter of time after Republicans successfully packed the court. It's only the beginning. At the moment, conservatives want us to believe that we're moving towards two Americas based on states rights: Blue America and Jeebus Land, where abortion and gay sex are illegal and all the public schools begin by saying a prayer to the Christian lord. But this would be economically untenable for red states. The majority of Americans do not want to be ruled by Christofascists. No large employer is going to locate to a Jeebus state if they can help it; they won't be able to attract enough workers. As soon as Republicans have the ability to do so, they will even the playing field by writing their wack-ass brand of Christianity into federal law. They will happily override the filibuster in the Senate to do it. There will be no blue state safe havens if they can help it.
I could tell you were an idiot but thanks for making my point.
The Libertarian Party also have policies like decriminalizing drugs, sex work and gambling, are pro-gay marriage, pro-trans rights, support ending restrictions on immigration, are anti-capital punishment and have even proposed removing powers from the police to use excessive force.
Libertarianism originated with Marxists who viewed state enforcement of private property as being restrictive to liberty. It was then reinvented by right wingers advocating for freedom from government involvement in the economy and society.
More recently, right wingers in general now describe themselves as libertarian even if they don't subscribe to any socially liberal policies.
You can be right-wing or left-wing libertarian. Look up the political compass.
No you really can't be left wing Libertarian. Obviously almost no one fits perfectly in one political box so a lot of people on both sides on the aisle share views with Libertarians on specific issues. You see a lot of people from both the left and right claiming to be Libertarian now because they are so disgusted with the two main parties. But everything the left pushes for as far as bigger government, reduced freedoms, the bureaucratic state flies directly in the face of Libertarian ideology. A true Libertarian is highly in favor of individual freedoms and small government. You may see issues like abortion where most on the left and libertarians agree but overall Libertarians generally share a much closer world view with strong conservatives.