You guys don't worry that distance running is speeding up the aging process?

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running. I still do occasional social long runs, but I seldom run for more than six miles. I only race the 400/800 at the national level. However, I lift HARD 3-5 days/week. I'm 74. Here's a photo of me taken earlier this year. Running will keep your heart healthy. Lifting and great nutrition can keep the rest of your body healthy. (I'll probably delete this photo in a few days, but this is what an older healthy runner can look like.)

https://imgur.com/a/GbyrBpH

Wow, are you single by any chance?

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running. I still do occasional social long runs, but I seldom run for more than six miles. I only race the 400/800 at the national level. However, I lift HARD 3-5 days/week. I'm 74. Here's a photo of me taken earlier this year. Running will keep your heart healthy. Lifting and great nutrition can keep the rest of your body healthy. (I'll probably delete this photo in a few days, but this is what an older healthy runner can look like.)

https://imgur.com/a/GbyrBpH

Wow, you look like a walking advertisement for viagra.

jamin wrote:

What would you guess is the age of Seth James DeMoor?

https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/zBB501EOfZLJQrHgRtF-NydBskZrQYMVwsOy3ZTDWv8-1365x2048.jpg

Seth could pass for 60 in that pic. That’s rough.

But that’s the trade off for running 100mpw. It not a good ROI unless you are running in the Olympics. I’ll never understand why someone would run 100mpw. It’s terrible for your body. Especially as we age mami ting muscle should be #1 priority

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running. I still do occasional social long runs, but I seldom run for more than six miles. I only race the 400/800 at the national level. However, I lift HARD 3-5 days/week. I'm 74. Here's a photo of me taken earlier this year. Running will keep your heart healthy. Lifting and great nutrition can keep the rest of your body healthy. (I'll probably delete this photo in a few days, but this is what an older healthy runner can look like.)

imgur.com/a/GbyrBpH

You are hot as f.

Keep rocking those low waist jeans.

I'm not a fan of Seth but that's not a fair pic of him . That's at the end of a tough race and as anyone who has had race pictures taken knows, race pictures aren't exactly flattering. By the end of a race you're dehydrated and everything sags. Look at one of his videos for an accurate representation of how he looks. Idk how old Seth is but based on his actual appearance I'd say late 30's or 40.

There is a study which demonstrates that life expectancy is not tied to genetics as much as lifestyle.

On the other hand, some physical characteristics are inherited.

Like baldness, jowl and wrinkles.

In my case, I always looked younger.

When I was 16 people thought I'm 13.

That was a nightmare.

At 43 people say I'm 36-38.

Yeah, you look like a really fit old guy. But, it looks like you have dentures... you might not look so old if you didn't smile in the picture.

Not necessarily. Older and wiser looking can be beneficial in health care.

Sugary tea, yes, but only once in the morning, once in the late afternoon. All told a fraction of the sugar of the American diet. A bigger culprit in East Africa is actually chewing on sugarcane.

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running

Did they say why?

Distance running isn't really an "effort." Does it do more damage to recover from than, say, weightlifting? Is everything sore the day after a slow 10 miler?

I think it's about the nutrition. Maybe if you invented a special liquid diet you could recover faster.

Bad Wigins wrote:

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running

Did they say why?

Distance running isn't really an "effort." Does it do more damage to recover from than, say, weightlifting? Is everything sore the day after a slow 10 miler?

I think it's about the nutrition. Maybe if you invented a special liquid diet you could recover faster.

It had something to do with short-term stress markers in the blood test. I had done a 14 mile run the previous day starting out to run about 10 miles hard, but I felt good so I did another loop. Apparently, my body wasn't remotely recovered from the previous day's effort. He pointed out that it wasn't healthy to keep my body in such a constant state of stress. Normally, I would have done a hard workout the next day, but I vowed to stop distance running on that day.

Hi @fisky, what is the “anti-aging clinic” you speak of? Like what’s an example place? And what exactly were the tests they did to conclude that the stress from hard running would age you faster?

George Ilie wrote:

There is a study which demonstrates that life expectancy is not tied to genetics as much as lifestyle.

On the other hand, some physical characteristics are inherited.

Like baldness, jowl and wrinkles.

In my case, I always looked younger.

When I was 16 people thought I'm 13.

That was a nightmare.

At 43 people say I'm 36-38.

It's common curtesy to subtract 20% when telling people what age they look, so you probably look approximately your age.

I wonder how many runners have aged since the beginning of this thread. We need pics. Some may have even died.

So objective measures are interesting

-Lots of DNA methylation clocks cost a bunch and not that useful.

-Blood work values

Levine's Phenotypic Age is a biological age test based on 9 common blood biomarkers. It was developed by Morgan Levine, a researcher of Aging at Yale University.

Phenotypic Age can be calculated by plugging in your blood test results into this Excel spreadsheet.

Features

predicts biological age based on 9 common blood biomarkers (see table below)

free

r = 0.94 correlation to chronological age in data population

https://biohackstack.com/posts/levines-phenotypic-age/

Lustgarten uses diet as his main anti ageing quest and measures with Levin's biomarkers

https://youtu.be/hvKogCUOqyA?t=21

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running. I still do occasional social long runs, but I seldom run for more than six miles. I only race the 400/800 at the national level. However, I lift HARD 3-5 days/week. I'm 74. Here's a photo of me taken earlier this year. Running will keep your heart healthy. Lifting and great nutrition can keep the rest of your body healthy. (I'll probably delete this photo in a few days, but this is what an older healthy runner can look like.)

https://imgur.com/a/GbyrBpH

Man...fisky, if I looked like that I'd be the talk of the town & sought after by so many women! Curious: What's your weight in that photo? Do you take any anti-aging supplements like DHEA or melatonin?

Have you heard of Frank Bernardo? Another one of those age-less middle-agers who never took up distance running. He's a fitness guru who does a lot of weight training. He's 60 & easily could pass for early/mid 40s. I think you two guys could clean up on all the hot 40 yr old cougars out there. Lol.

Dahlia wrote:

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running. I still do occasional social long runs, but I seldom run for more than six miles. I only race the 400/800 at the national level. However, I lift HARD 3-5 days/week. I'm 74. Here's a photo of me taken earlier this year. Running will keep your heart healthy. Lifting and great nutrition can keep the rest of your body healthy. (I'll probably delete this photo in a few days, but this is what an older healthy runner can look like.)

imgur.com/a/GbyrBpH

You are hot as f.

Keep rocking those low waist jeans.

I like the toupee.

fisky wrote:

I quit "distance" running in 2000 when medical tests at an anti-aging clinic showed that I was not recovering from my hard training efforts and that over time, it would age me faster than a more moderate approach to running. I still do occasional social long runs, but I seldom run for more than six miles. I only race the 400/800 at the national level. However, I lift HARD 3-5 days/week. I'm 74. Here's a photo of me taken earlier this year. Running will keep your heart healthy. Lifting and great nutrition can keep the rest of your body healthy. (I'll probably delete this photo in a few days, but this is what an older healthy runner can look like.)

https://imgur.com/a/GbyrBpH

You're hot fisky & don't delete! 😍

Nick bare is 31 years of age. He is currently training for a ultra marathon

https://ibb.co/nM5Mr50