Who wins in a marathon? 2008 OT Ryan Hall or 2016 OT Galen Rupp?

mid D guy wrote:

fact checker 230987 wrote:

The only reasons are "I was there that day, it was magical" lol. Your nostalgia isn't worth a damn, you are detached from reality.

The point is not nostalgia, the point are how fast the splits of the last two laps; in particular considering that there is 250ft climbing in each lap. Its is very unlikely that 2016 OT Rupp, as you stated, did not even peak for the race, could have dropped Hall.

BTW yes, Rupp in 2016 beat Keflezighi, a 41 year-old marathoner with a PB of 2:08:37. I love Keflezighi, a great athlete, but he was way past his prime.

People get all uptight about other people's nostalgia when they realize they have no perspective in their youth.

WinnytheBish wrote:

fact checker 230987 wrote:

Who is talking about 2020? In 2016 OT Rupp beat Meb - an olympic marathon silver medalist and who also was 4th in the Olympic marathon in 2012.

In the Olympic Games, Rupp was only 80 seconds behind Kipchoge who had a 2:03:05 PR at the time and who would go on to run 2:01:39 for the world record in 2018. You may also remember Kipchoge for being the first human to run sub 2 in the marathon.

He was also 10 seconds behind Lilesa who has run 2:04 and 59:22 in the half.

Do I have to explain what this thread is about again?

Maybe to yourself? The thread was 2016 Rupp vs. 2008 Hall.

fact checker 230987 wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Who did Rupp beat in 2020? Andi straight from the nursing home and Jake Riley who never was within arms reach of Rupp. Beating Dathan like that is way more impressive. Brian Sell was a good marathoner as well, as good as Jake Riley at least.

Who is talking about 2020? In 2016 OT Rupp beat Meb - an olympic marathon silver medalist and who also was 4th in the Olympic marathon in 2012.

In the Olympic Games, Rupp was only 80 seconds behind Kipchoge who had a 2:03:05 PR at the time and who would go on to run 2:01:39 for the world record in 2018. You may also remember Kipchoge for being the first human to run sub 2 in the marathon.

He was also 10 seconds behind Lilesa who has run 2:04 and 59:22 in the half.

Meb was a silver medalist in 2004. I don't see how that's relevant in 2016 12 years past his prime. Rupp also was illegally wearing super shoes like the rest of the Nike folk. Just because Rupp raced Kipchoge doesn't mean the rest of the field was deep in any way. Also, Sammy Wanjiru was an amazing marathoner and arguably one of the greatest, running 2:06 doing most of the work on a hot day that was insane.

You're using an example of Kipchoge to prove how good Rupp is, even though Rupp didn't beat him. I don't get how that's relevant.

birdbeard wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Do I have to explain what this thread is about again?

Maybe to yourself? The thread was 2016 Rupp vs. 2008 Hall.

Honestly I'm just trying to troll the Rupp people and it's working.

Kipchoge’s sub 2 was a joke as well.

Meb's PR is from 2014. He was very fit in 2016. Ward got 6th in the olympics too.

You can argue that it was the strongest trials ever. 2 Olympic medalists and a 6th place finisher at the olympics and Rupp smoked them with ease. Ward did better at the olympics than Hall

fact checker 230987 wrote:

Meb's PR is from 2014. He was very fit in 2016. Ward got 6th in the olympics too.

You can argue that it was the strongest trials ever. 2 Olympic medalists and a 6th place finisher at the olympics and Rupp smoked them with ease. Ward did better at the olympics than Hall

It was not the strongest trials ever. This must be a joke or you are really ignorant about the subject.

OT Hall beats OT Rupp

OG Rupp beats OG Hall

Pretty straightforward

WinnytheBish wrote:

Meb was a silver medalist in 2004. I don't see how that's relevant in 2016 12 years past his prime. Rupp also was illegally wearing super shoes like the rest of the Nike folk. Just because Rupp raced Kipchoge doesn't mean the rest of the field was deep in any way. Also, Sammy Wanjiru was an amazing marathoner and arguably one of the greatest, running 2:06 doing most of the work on a hot day that was insane.

You're using an example of Kipchoge to prove how good Rupp is, even though Rupp didn't beat him. I don't get how that's relevant.

you are uneducated. Meb was 4th in the Olympics in 2012. Meb won the 2014 Boston Marathon. Meb was 4th at the NYC marathon in 2014. Meb was 8th in Boston in 2015. Meb ran his PR in 2014. Meb was old but he was in his prime.

Beating Meb is a hell of a lot more impressive than beating Ritz or Sell. Meb stopped to use the bathroom 7 times in Rio (and fell down at the end) and still placed 33rd out of 150+ runners.

I think i am starting to see the issue...

I get your point for Rupp...

But did you even -watch- Hall?

george oscar bluth wrote:

OT Hall beats OT Rupp

OG Rupp beats OG Hall

Pretty straightforward

Yep.

Again, he beat Meb using unreleased cheater shoes along with all of the top Nike athletes. Since he only won by a little over a minute, I'd say that was the only difference maker.

WinnytheBish wrote:

george oscar bluth wrote:

OT Hall beats OT Rupp

OG Rupp beats OG Hall

Pretty straightforward

Yep.

Oh I get it, you have brain damage. Sorry about being mean before, I didn't realize you are handicapped.

What you are saying is the equivalent of giving the Olympic Gold medal to a moron who sprints the last 400 all out to win his semifinal by 5 seconds when the top 4 auto-qualify. Then he gets crushed in the final but you still claim he is better than the true champion.

fact checker 230987 wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Yep.

Oh I get it, you have brain damage. Sorry about being mean before, I didn't realize you are handicapped.

What you are saying is the equivalent of giving the Olympic Gold medal to a moron who sprints the last 400 all out to win his semifinal by 5 seconds when the top 4 auto-qualify. Then he gets crushed in the final but you still claim he is better than the true champion.

That is not the argument. You really do not track discussions very well...

Well, isn't that true? If someone sets a WR or AR or OR or CR in heat, aren't they technically the fastest even if they finish DFL in the final?

fact checker 230987 wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Yep.

Oh I get it, you have brain damage. Sorry about being mean before, I didn't realize you are handicapped.

What you are saying is the equivalent of giving the Olympic Gold medal to a moron who sprints the last 400 all out to win his semifinal by 5 seconds when the top 4 auto-qualify. Then he gets crushed in the final but you still claim he is better than the true champion.

fact checker 230987 wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Yep.

Oh I get it, you have brain damage. Sorry about being mean before, I didn't realize you are handicapped.

What you are saying is the equivalent of giving the Olympic Gold medal to a moron who sprints the last 400 all out to win his semifinal by 5 seconds when the top 4 auto-qualify. Then he gets crushed in the final but you still claim he is better than the true champion.

Nah. Brain damage is assuming people with a different opinion than you have brain damage.

I'm not even going to acknowledge the ridiculous "comparison" you provided.

WinnytheBish wrote:

fact checker 230987 wrote:

Oh I get it, you have brain damage. Sorry about being mean before, I didn't realize you are handicapped.

What you are saying is the equivalent of giving the Olympic Gold medal to a moron who sprints the last 400 all out to win his semifinal by 5 seconds when the top 4 auto-qualify. Then he gets crushed in the final but you still claim he is better than the true champion.

Nah. Brain damage is assuming people with a different opinion than you have brain damage.

I'm not even going to acknowledge the ridiculous "comparison" you provided.

Youre still trying to convince people that OT Hall is superior to OT Rupp? Lol.

A valiant effort, little boy. Keep trying.

fact checker 230987 wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Yep.

Oh I get it, you have brain damage. Sorry about being mean before, I didn't realize you are handicapped.

What you are saying is the equivalent of giving the Olympic Gold medal to a moron who sprints the last 400 all out to win his semifinal by 5 seconds when the top 4 auto-qualify. Then he gets crushed in the final but you still claim he is better than the true champion.

No, I’m comparing each of their marathons head-to-head. OT and OG.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

Nah. Brain damage is assuming people with a different opinion than you have brain damage.

I'm not even going to acknowledge the ridiculous "comparison" you provided.

Youre still trying to convince people that OT Hall is superior to OT Rupp? Lol.

A valiant effort, little boy. Keep trying.

I don't have to convince people since only like 3 people think Rupp was better, fully grown adult male.

Looks like the consensus says Hall. Hall is the winner.