Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Nunner S,

How Trump of you to start calling names and diverting to Obama.

Wake UP America wrote:

its_baddude wrote:

The democrats will oppose anything the republicans put up. Due to politics, they will say that republicans want to raise taxes on the poor and lower taxes on the rich.

You can look up the history of the democrats for last few decades. Same old sh*t.

Using simple logic will tell you that the extra money business will have will have to go somewhere. Thinks will trickle down.

Is this too complicated for you?

There ya go Conundrum, Liberal Judge in the sanctuary city lets illegal go free after killing a lady 2 years ago as she walked on a pier. No, he wasn't shooting at a seal. And look at his past! Yours is probably pretty bad, but his is horrendous. Oh, but that's just one example. That was somebody's daughter dammit! Just keep letting them in, right oh bright one?

What the hell are you talking about? I am posting about the tax cut aimed for the rich.

The article states the opposite of what you are claiming. Let me quote it for you: --- A group of 20 Nobel Prize–winning economists warned last week that a Trump presidency could “jeopardize the foundations of American prosperity and the global economy.” --- I brought this point up to show that Vox is a political left wing rag who is wrong all the time. Why should I believe anything they say?

The wrote:

its_baddude wrote:

Here is what the left wing rag said about a Trump presidency. Do you put this rag in high regards?

https://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/11/10/13575342/president-trump-disaster-wall-street

This is stupid. I never heard ANY economists say Trump would drive the market down. To the contrary.

The only negative the "market" expects is long term deregulation issues a la the housing market collapse.

Way to propose a straw argument

In general yes. Poor people and working class people, by definition, do not invest the money to grow the economy nor they pay the bulk of taxes. They would benefit more from higher wages. How big a tax cut do you want someone who pays 0 taxes to get? Poor people and working class people do not benefit from illegal immigration as it stagnates their wages. They do not benefit from the global economy as the poor people and working people of other countries can perform the same jobs for less. It is in their best interest to vote to control immigration and outsourcing. Democrats used to believe this. Nowadays, the democrats and republicans have move so much to the left that Trump seems like an old democrat. Very strange.

Middle Class Tax Cuts wrote:

its_baddude wrote:

The democrats will oppose anything the republicans put up. Due to politics, they will say that republicans want to raise taxes on the poor and lower taxes on the rich.

You can look up the history of the democrats for last few decades. Same old sh*t.

Using simple logic will tell you that the extra money business will have will have to go somewhere. Thinks will trickle down.

Is this too complicated for you?

So, you're saying that giving the bulk of the tax cuts to companies and wealthy people will benefit middle class folks more than giving all of the tax cuts to middle class folks? Okaayyyyyyy . . .

You shut it down. Nice job, ibd.

There was a recent story about the bun manufacturer raid in which the place was gutted of its illegal staff and now fears paying higher wages. The irony.

its_baddude wrote:

Ok, I'm here to help you out. Please stop posting leftist propaganda. The tax plan is still being worked. The biggest cut will be corporate taxes. Hopefully, that will trickle down in the forms of more jobs (less welfare) and higher wages (more income).

If only there were another time in recent American history where "trickle down" economics was attempted.

Oh, that's right there were two. And both were a total failure for providing meaningful, broad economic benefits. Why would doing the same thing again change anything?

You are helping the Right kick you (and me) in the family jewels. Why do you like it so much?

its_baddude wrote:

I brought this point up to show that Vox is a political left wing rag who is wrong all the time. Why should I believe anything they say?

Good thing Briedbard is right 100% of the time. You can't go wrong with a racist, protectionist content strategy.

Get back to us when you have an original thought.

Flagpole wrote:

The ONLY thing that has happened in the positive for Republicans so far with Trump as President is that the Supreme Court got a conservative judge, and that would have happened no matter what Republican President was in office.

He is a loon with no connection to reality. He aligns himself with extremist right-wing conspiracy theorists, and his is criminal to the nth degree.

Mueller will get him. Tick, tick, tick.

Uh, HELLO!?!?! You forgot Roy Moore.

What political party doesn't want to be associated with a pedo who can't hold a job?

Maybe he'll grab a few pvssies with Donald as a photo opportunity in the oval office while they share racist propaganda. You know, the normal stuff Obama did. Or, was it Hillary? Well, wait... It was so long ago it doesn't matter. I mean, it worked for Flynn and Manafort. It was SO long ago and they were nobodies. So glad that's over.

Damn you so TRIGGERED❗️

President Trump is doing exactly what We The People elected him to do.... Keep the governments hands off our guns and stay the fck out of our way.

You libbbtwats co-dependent on the federal Government and trying to elect candidates running on the “disarm and enslave platform “ will never get it. As a result you will perpetually make the same mistake and are destined for a life of “BUTTHURT.”

That is exactly how The American Citizen likes the libbbtwat- butthurt and DECIMATED❗️

???❗️❗️❗️

The economy has been expanding. Businesses are currently cash rich. Investors have been making good money for the past year. Tax cuts for the rich and businesses are NOT NEEDED at all. Cash and incentive to invest is already there. This is the time to start paying down national debt. This tax bill is hypocritical and contrary to fiscal conservatism. It's foolish.

Conundrum wrote:

Middle Class Tax Cuts wrote:

So, you're saying that giving the bulk of the tax cuts to companies and wealthy people will benefit middle class folks more than giving all of the tax cuts to middle class folks? Okaayyyyyyy . . .

He somehow he believes that. It doesn't make economic sense. The middle class spends any extra money they have. That creates demand. If business meets that demand they make profit. It's trickle up.

Now it's easier if businesses are just given money through increased tax breaks, but if the middle gets the money, businesses will still do well, but they will have to earn it through expanding business to meet increased demand.

its_baddude wrote:

The biggest cut will be corporate taxes. Hopefully, that will trickle down in the forms of more jobs (less welfare) and higher wages (more income

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

that's cute

corporations will look for out you, have faith

haha,

and they'll pass the savings on to their customers too, I promise

haha,

and not just to shareholders, cross my heart

its_baddude wrote:

The tax cuts are constrained by the filibuster rule. So the republicans have to play games.

Who would filibuster tax cuts for the middle class? When has this happened?

its_baddude wrote:

The tax cuts are constrained by the filibuster rule. So the republicans have to play games. This explains most of the issues and the weird numbers.

It's not the filibuster rule causing the games, it's the Byrd Rule.

If they create a law through budget reconciliation that materially increases the deficit (like this plan), then it would have to be written to expire within 10 years.

So to conform with this rule, they decided to make any tax cuts to individuals temporary but keep the corporate tax cuts permanent.

Furthermore, they front-ended the individual tax cuts so they look in 2018 but get progressively worse for regular people.

The whole idea of this tax plan is to get a win now and say they did something, even though it's minor help and short term.

its_baddude wrote:

Using simple logic will tell you that the extra money business will have will have to go somewhere. Things will trickle down.

I think that's a big problem with Republicans. They can only use simple logic. Can't figure out complex issues and macro economics.

But to address your statement:

The extra money business will have will have to go somewhere.

It will go to dividends.

It will go to executive bonuses.

It will be retained by companies to bolster their balance sheet and push up share values for people with extra money to invest.

Since big companies currently have large profits and tons of money in the bank already, there is no evidence that giving them more money would lead to any actual spending, hiring or wage increases.

Flynn charged

I'll use a Fox link so people will believe it

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/01/michael-flynn-charged-in-special-counsels-russia-investigation.html

Middle Class Tax Cuts wrote:

It's funny how every big tax cut is touted as a tax cut for the middle class. If they wanted to help the middle class why not just pass a simple tax cut reducing taxes by 10% on those earning between $30k and $150k. You know - the middle class.

You are correct.

Too many people get all up in arms about taxes when it is really silly to do so. It's just an emotional issue, and it's pretty easy to have it not bother you at all...just decide that taxes are inevitable and that you will buy what you can with the money you take home.

The ONLY reason to get upset about taxes is if you don't think we are being taxed enough because you are concerned about the national debt and the deficit. Or, I suppose you could be upset if the poor or working class are being taxed too much. The reason the "middle class" is brought up all the time is because that is the largest group, and so both sides want to appeal to them.

Yea just what I want to do, throw more of my hard earned money at the government who has a lousy record of spending in a fiscally responsible manner, and squanders a large chunk of it. The more money it gets, the more it spends, the more it wants and more boated it becomes. The government needs to be on a strict diet, as it is morbidly obese.

OOPS...........for all the meticulous spell checkers, bloated, not boated.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Yea just what I want to do, throw more of my hard earned money at the government who has a lousy record of spending in a fiscally responsible manner, and squanders a large chunk of it. The more money it gets, the more it spends, the more it wants and more boated it becomes. The government needs to be on a strict diet, as it is morbidly obese.

OOPS...........for all the meticulous spell checkers, bloated, not boated.

I'm not saying that you SHOULD be upset that we aren't taxed enough, only that that is the only valid option with regard to taxes. I actually do NOT hold that position, but at the same time I don't get upset about paying taxes.