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mc hammer wrote:
Signed with Wake Forest.
WHY?!?!?
All this is sooo confusing for a high school runner.
What does any one think of just sticking to daneils running formula 800m training plan?
How about listen to your coach?
C
knower of things wrote:
How about listen to your coach?
Coach doesn't care, generic "run 30 mins, ect"
There are better 700 programs than Daniels but keep it simple so Daniels might be the way for you to go
Better 800 than
I've looked up 400 metres PR for all sub-1:44 800 metres men. All have PRs between 44.25 & 47.25. According to my research, I've only found two sub-1:44 men whom are sub-45 second men: Alberto Juantorena & Mark Everett. David Rudisha is a 45.0+ man, as far as I know. As does the 1:46 man, I know fast guys too. To be a sub-1:44 man, to run sub-47.25 400 metres, one needs neuromuscular coordination to run sub-22.5 200 metres speed.
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Same, this deserves a bump since it is base phase for many collegiate and high school runners (including myself).
What do you guys think of my current base phase schedule? Where could I do more/less of something? What should I add? Basically how does my training align with someone shooting for 1:52 by the end of May.
Here's this week.
M: 4-6 miles easy, 6-8x100m strides (12-14 sec), pull-ups, bench, core work, bounding, skipping and jump rope
T: 3-4 miles, dynamic drills, 12x70m hill sprints at max effort (while staying relaxed) with 2:30 rest, 2 miles
W: mile warm up, 30 min, up-tempo run (approx 7:30 down to 5:20 pace gradually), lunges, hang cleans, Romanian deadlifts, box jumps
T: 6 miles easy
F: 3 mile warm up, 5x800 In 2:30 with 2:00 rest, 1.5 mile cool down
S: 7 miles easy
S: 13 mile LR, starts off slow with a few miles in 7:45+ and then gradually works down to averaging around 6:00 pace for the last 4-6 miles, 6-8x100m strides (12.5-14sec)
Around 45-47 miles this week
Thoughts?
If you could handle 60-65MPW you would slow down less in the last lap. I would add doubles. Down weeks when needed. Other than that it looks very good.
Thanks for the input man! Yeah my coach I and I are actually planning on working me up to 60 MPW for the last month and a half or so of base training and then going 55ish through indoor and the early part of outdoor and then dropping to 35-45 for the rest of the season. I have considered doing doubles, I've always heard not to use them until you are at 70 MPW but I see a lot of middle distance guys doing them at less than that because it aids in recovery without extra stress as well as providing extra aerobic benefit. Thanks again!
Splits Guy wrote, in part:
"..someone shooting for 1:52 by the end of May"
Man, this is the sub 1:50 thread! Don't bring that weak 1:52 stuff here! (Sarcasm alert!)
What are your current times for 800, 1500, 5k?
Hey...
I pretty much agree with what you said. I was the top 800 guy at a western school at 1:44. I had three teammates that ran the 400 under 44, so I had good workout partners. We did a 3 mile tempo workout at 4:25, 4:15, and 3:59 in our taper that year.
I was also benching 350 for 10 reps and squatting 175 for 20 reps during the tapering phase. I had 32 inch thighs!
My flying 100 meter was 9.7, I had considered being a sprinter after that one!
Anyways I ran between 80-100 miles per week in my buildup. We did 6 X the mile with 200 jogs between. I think all of my miles were under 4:10. That was pretty average for me. We also did flying 200s inside 20 seconds when we ran them. Those were uphill. When we had downhill we could often break 18!
Our jump rope workout were tougher than anything. We used to do them double Dutch style.
These shoes the best wrote:
Hey...
I pretty much agree with what you said. I was the top 800 guy at a western school at 1:44. I had three teammates that ran the 400 under 44, so I had good workout partners. We did a 3 mile tempo workout at 4:25, 4:15, and 3:59 in our taper that year.
I was also benching 350 for 10 reps and squatting 175 for 20 reps during the tapering phase. I had 32 inch thighs!
My flying 100 meter was 9.7, I had considered being a sprinter after that one!
Anyways I ran between 80-100 miles per week in my buildup. We did 6 X the mile with 200 jogs between. I think all of my miles were under 4:10. That was pretty average for me. We also did flying 200s inside 20 seconds when we ran them. Those were uphill. When we had downhill we could often break 18!
Our jump rope workout were tougher than anything. We used to do them double Dutch style.
3 sub 44 guys.
As in 3 of the 14 guys who have ever run sub 44 all time across the world?
Where 9 are Americans all time, and there have only been 5 sub 44 guys in America in the same ten year period once, and 3/5 of them were at your school and trained with you?
Who are you?
BullSlacker wrote:
These shoes the best wrote:Hey...
I pretty much agree with what you said. I was the top 800 guy at a western school at 1:44. I had three teammates that ran the 400 under 44, so I had good workout partners. We did a 3 mile tempo workout at 4:25, 4:15, and 3:59 in our taper that year.
I was also benching 350 for 10 reps and squatting 175 for 20 reps during the tapering phase. I had 32 inch thighs!
My flying 100 meter was 9.7, I had considered being a sprinter after that one!
Anyways I ran between 80-100 miles per week in my buildup. We did 6 X the mile with 200 jogs between. I think all of my miles were under 4:10. That was pretty average for me. We also did flying 200s inside 20 seconds when we ran them. Those were uphill. When we had downhill we could often break 18!
Our jump rope workout were tougher than anything. We used to do them double Dutch style.
3 sub 44 guys.
As in 3 of the 14 guys who have ever run sub 44 all time across the world?
Where 9 are Americans all time, and there have only been 5 sub 44 guys in America in the same ten year period once, and 3/5 of them were at your school and trained with you?
Who are you?
I just read the rest of your post, where you were running flying 100s in 9.7 and uphill 200m reps in under 20s, and I worked out who you are.
A bullshitter.
exactly a bullshitter.
Bump!! Read the first few pages of this.
Bunp
This makes perfect sense.