Has anyone else noticed they talk about dirty stuff on their podcast a bit? David has talked about his internet search history a bit. Is he another Nick Willis?
Has anyone else noticed they talk about dirty stuff on their podcast a bit? David has talked about his internet search history a bit. Is he another Nick Willis?
Has anyone else noticed they talk about dirty stuff on their podcast a bit? David has talked about his internet search history a bit. Is he another Nick Willis?
Would it surprise anyone if they had an onlyfans?
All the time. Coupla incels who eventually found each other and need to let the world know about it at every turn.
Has anyone else noticed they talk about dirty stuff on their podcast a bit? David has talked about his internet search history a bit. Is he another Nick Willis?
Considering that many people on here think there is no way they possibly have time to give the athletes that they coach enough attention, I don't get how you think they have time for all of this random stuff that you have no evidence of them partaking in...
I do have a personal relationship with him and have experienced very different things than the people who hate him on the internet. There are lots of athletes and people in general who have had great experiences with him. Those ones just aren’t the ones posting on threads like this for the most part. It definitely sounds like we had very different experiences with him, but I think both of them are valid and real experiences.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, there is no reason to really doubt their coaching when it comes to elite athletes. SWAP elites are killing it with recent results and there are numerous examples of athletes talking about David and Megan helping them problem solve to work through injury and nutrition problems that are common in the sport.
Just to take one example, Tara Dower's transition from the AT FKT to winning a Golden Ticket in a fast and extremely competitive 100k desert race less than 5 months later is remarkable. Her YOY improvement at Black Canyon was ~54 minutes. Her post race podcast interviews repeatedly mentioned the ways Megan helped her with that transition and it seemed entirely genuine to me.
The criticisms are almost entirely around the social media marketing of their coaching to lower tier athletes, and the lack of personal attention those athletes receive due to the sheer numbers. This is where most of their income comes from so it will continue to be the point of contention.
The criticisms are almost entirely around the social media marketing of their coaching to lower tier athletes, and the lack of personal attention those athletes receive due to the sheer numbers. This is where most of their income comes from so it will continue to be the point of contention.
I'd argue another point of contention is that they are horrible human beings :)
I do have a personal relationship with him and have experienced very different things than the people who hate him on the internet. There are lots of athletes and people in general who have had great experiences with him. Those ones just aren’t the ones posting on threads like this for the most part. It definitely sounds like we had very different experiences with him, but I think both of them are valid and real experiences.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, there is no reason to really doubt their coaching when it comes to elite athletes. SWAP elites are killing it with recent results and there are numerous examples of athletes talking about David and Megan helping them problem solve to work through injury and nutrition problems that are common in the sport.
Just to take one example, Tara Dower's transition from the AT FKT to winning a Golden Ticket in a fast and extremely competitive 100k desert race less than 5 months later is remarkable. Her YOY improvement at Black Canyon was ~54 minutes. Her post race podcast interviews repeatedly mentioned the ways Megan helped her with that transition and it seemed entirely genuine to me.
The criticisms are almost entirely around the social media marketing of their coaching to lower tier athletes, and the lack of personal attention those athletes receive due to the sheer numbers. This is where most of their income comes from so it will continue to be the point of contention.
They pay attention to those with pull and sway in the community. Athlete brand managers (i.e. The Feed) and talented, faster runners with larger social media followings.
I do know a few former SWAPers that were quite fast and got very injured under the Roches. They didn't have much of a social media following, so probably less attention.
The Roches are interested in "good optics" and power networking. It's why they'd take on an elite or BIPOC runner or brand athlete manager for "FREE" or at a discount. They don't need more money. It's more about gaining power and attention.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, there is no reason to really doubt their coaching when it comes to elite athletes. SWAP elites are killing it with recent results and there are numerous examples of athletes talking about David and Megan helping them problem solve to work through injury and nutrition problems that are common in the sport.
Just to take one example, Tara Dower's transition from the AT FKT to winning a Golden Ticket in a fast and extremely competitive 100k desert race less than 5 months later is remarkable. Her YOY improvement at Black Canyon was ~54 minutes. Her post race podcast interviews repeatedly mentioned the ways Megan helped her with that transition and it seemed entirely genuine to me.
The criticisms are almost entirely around the social media marketing of their coaching to lower tier athletes, and the lack of personal attention those athletes receive due to the sheer numbers. This is where most of their income comes from so it will continue to be the point of contention.
They pay attention to those with pull and sway in the community. Athlete brand managers (i.e. The Feed) and talented, faster runners with larger social media followings.
I do know a few former SWAPers that were quite fast and got very injured under the Roches. They didn't have much of a social media following, so probably less attention.
The Roches are interested in "good optics" and power networking. It's why they'd take on an elite or BIPOC runner or brand athlete manager for "FREE" or at a discount. They don't need more money. It's more about gaining power and attention.
4 miles steady, 16 x 1 min on/1 min easy, 2 miles steady! Rawdogging it without bicarb since I didn’t think it could happen today. I think I knocked it out of the park mentally given the context 🙏 SO FUN TO GRIND! | Strava
At least he used his 745 for the data source this time
He knows he’s being watched
He mentioned on his latest podcast that he is aware of this thread and says that he has never looked at it. He just can’t stop lying. I guess his chatbot alter ego doesn’t count?