The court documents confirm that Pelosi answered the door and then turned around and walked away from the cops and towards Depape.
Which makes no sense at all. Why did Pelosi not stay with the police at the door and tell them to remove Depape from his home immediately???? The story we have been fed is complete bullsh!t.
Pelosi had one hand on the hammer and opened the door with the other hand, the hand he was using to resist Depape’s forearm holding the hammer, which gave Depape the opportunity to wrest the hammer away entirely and hit Pelosi’s head with it even as police were asking them to drop the hammer.
That is what is in the “court documents” and also what’s being reported by mainstream news, not that “Pelosi.. walked away from the cops and towards Depape”.
Thank you for this link. This should answer many of the "questions" on this thread.
But, of course--as has been mentioned in this thread and others--reading and thinking are hard. And actually unnecessary, if "my mind is made up--do not attempt to confuse me with 'facts' and 'logic'!
Go back to The Paper Chase, pettifogger, you're waaaaay out of your depth here -- though fronting "Ivy" is cute. Go Tigers!
Until there's any evidence backing the government story -- and until the Canadian nudist is affored a fraction of the support, and vigorous defense your average 'urban' murderer gets, your banal obfuscations are worthless -- save revealing the usual sh**ib double standard.
We do know Paul Pelosi pled guilty to DUI recently, if that helps your credibility problem.
Ah, thank you for letting us all know that you didn't read the link. (Well, as Mr. Ivy says, reading and thinking are hard!) Good to know where you stand.
Speaking as a lawyer, I find this level of ignorance kind of enjoyable. In any case, kudos to you for being willing to forthrightly advertise your ignorance of criminal procedure in this way.
Of course, a) a great many, maybe a majority, of criminal confessions are made without an attorney present, and b) a confession by itself is generally held to be insufficient to convict.
If you're actually a lawyer you'd know damn well that the confession of a crazy person could easily be thrown out because they're incapable of understanding their Miranda rights.
Pretty sure your statement is true, but it doesn't seem to contradict his a or b. And IIRC Mr. Ivy has previously told us about being a lawyer. I could be wrong.
...but, but , but they were in underpants....but, but a third person opened the door , but, but...they were friends,,,,but, but I demand to see the CCTV its my rights as a common Trumpist.
...all hocus pocus, police are unfunded and lying Dems....I'm closing my ears, can't hear you...nah, nah, nah , nah
Predicted about 20 pages ago that nothing will change Trumpers belief that their conspiracy theories are valid. Police reports, court filings, confessions and even video. Nothing will do it. If this thread goes on for another 20 pages, they will still believe in the conspiracy angle.
Here is another example of this truth: Dan Crenshaw admitted that they all know and knew throughout that the big lie was a complete lie and they were doing this to manipulate the base. Dan Crenshaw is on the right wing team. He is their guy. Yet, this will not penetrate the Trumper's belief that the election was stolen from Trump.
Which makes no sense at all. Why did Pelosi not stay with the police at the door and tell them to remove Depape from his home immediately???? The story we have been fed is complete bullsh!t.
Pelosi had one hand on the hammer and opened the door with the other hand, the hand he was using to resist Depape’s forearm holding the hammer, which gave Depape the opportunity to wrest the hammer away entirely and hit Pelosi’s head with it even as police were asking them to drop the hammer.
That is what is in the “court documents” and also what’s being reported by mainstream news, not that “Pelosi.. walked away from the cops and towards Depape”.
Pelosi had one hand on the hammer and opened the door with the other hand, the hand he was using to resist Depape’s forearm holding the hammer, which gave Depape the opportunity to wrest the hammer away
Pelosi had one hand on the hammer and opened the door with the other hand, the hand he was using to resist Depape’s forearm holding the hammer, which gave Depape the opportunity to wrest the hammer away entirely and hit Pelosi’s head with it even as police were asking them to drop the hammer.
That is what is in the “court documents” and also what’s being reported by mainstream news, not that “Pelosi.. walked away from the cops and towards Depape”.
Pelosi had one hand on the hammer and opened the door with the other hand, the hand he was using to resist Depape’s forearm holding the hammer, which gave Depape the opportunity to wrest the hammer away
Very believable!
No, you're just being crazy for wanting to see video evidence before believing that story. Remember: nobody has ever lied or been wrong ever!
Pelosi had one hand on the hammer and opened the door with the other hand, the hand he was using to resist Depape’s forearm holding the hammer, which gave Depape the opportunity to wrest the hammer away
Very believable!
No, you're just being crazy for wanting to see video evidence before believing that story. Remember: nobody has ever lied or been wrong ever!
"Here's the problem: We don't feel safe...I walk into my pharmacy, and everything is on lockdown because of shoplifters. I'm not going in the subway. People don't feel safe in this town." pic.twitter.com/JUKhxXCk4c
BREAKING: Paul Pelosi opened the door for cops, did not flee or declare emergency, walked back to the attacker in the house, then was ATTACKED!? WHAT!? pic.twitter.com/9YfJiaJX9f
It's still not a correct post. As you know, that NBC reporter mangled his report. He (or his staff) lacked the intellectual ability to correctly summarize and report what he read in the publicly filed Motion To Detain in the DiPape case. That is why NBC later pulled his report.
It's also why you should always go to the actual source (Motion To Detain, linked below) when you can, and not always rely on the media to report from the source correctly. You were advised of this specific media error just one page back in Post Nos. 1345 and 1353. The fact that you are repeating an error made by AdultintheRoom just one page back -- effectively doubling down on his error -- raises serious questions about your maturity, credibility and/or intelligence, Gary Disco.
Normal people don't,It's the same conspiracy right wing losers shouting in to their echo chamber.
Because the nutjobs’ victory and sense of purpose and meaning in their lives rests on proving that Paul Pelosi is an old closeted gay man (not that there’s anything wrong with it even if it were true).
Predicted about 20 pages ago that nothing will change Trumpers belief that their conspiracy theories are valid. Police reports, court filings, confessions and even video. Nothing will do it. If this thread goes on for another 20 pages, they will still believe in the conspiracy angle.
Here is another example of this truth: Dan Crenshaw admitted that they all know and knew throughout that the big lie was a complete lie and they were doing this to manipulate the base. Dan Crenshaw is on the right wing team. He is their guy. Yet, this will not penetrate the Trumper's belief that the election was stolen from Trump.
You do realize that NO ONE on the right with a the ability to think logically actually believes the election was stolen. This is just a playbook move of their political machine to achieve their objective of making the US a one-party state, ie, no longer a democracy. They don't want anyone but themselves governing and will do whatever it takes to make it so.
"Dan Crenshaw is on the right wing team. He is their guy."
Lol. In your world Liz Cheney is on the right wing team, and right wingers lover her too.
Love the endless neocon wars and that sweet sweet CIA playbook.
^^^^^^^^^^^
Amazing what Trumpers have reduced themselves too. Bashing a principled conservative, and a Bronze Star, Purple Heart Navy SEAL veteran who literally gave an eye fighting for America. One of the most disgusting things Trump ever did was encouraging these naive disciples to start insulting US war veterans whenever they crossed him.
It's like this Trumper cult doesn't realize the term "neo-con" was coined by liberals as a derogatory term. I don't think Trumpers even know what a conservative is anymore.
By Annie Karni, Malika Khurana and Stuart A. Thompson
Within hours of the brutal attack last week on Paul Pelosi, Republican officials and media figures began circulating groundless claims — nearly all of them sinister, and many homophobic — about what had happened.
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