2012 Coaching Openings

Yes decision has been made and will be announced very soon but obviously not Saturday or Sunday. If you've been reading the boards youll know who the candidates are as they are accurate.

So who does Butler replace Gauson with?

I have been coaching in the Midwest for over 10 years...I hav never heard of this Gausen guy. My only guess is that this kid is on here promoting himself constantly.

My guess is that at 9:04AM tomorrow (7/23) there will be a whole lot of people wanting out of Penn State. The NCAA is placing "unprecedented" sanctions on them so the fallout will most certainly impact every sport at the school. BAS certainly wants out of Unhappy Valley.

Rocky Light was a MASTER ELITE COACH working at Texas Tech.I guess he would do enough dirty recruiting to please his boss......

a Midwest Coach wrote:

I have been coaching in the Midwest for over 10 years...I hav never heard of this Gausen guy. My only guess is that this kid is on here promoting himself constantly.

Exactly, what has Gausen done?

Why does he need to promote himself, it is not like a future boss of his is on here reading posts and thinks, "Hmmmm I should hire him!" You guys need to relax and stop coach bashing because no one wants to hire you!

You may be right about the sanctions, but Beth just made the hire of the year. Soon to be announced, already on Facebook, Pat Ebel, from Wisconsin-OshKosh for the throws. Pat is one of the premiere throws coaches in the country at any level and a class guy. Big 10 throws just got that much tougher...if you don't know of Pat, his throwers have absolutely dominated D3, I might be off slightly, but the last 6 NCAA champs in women's hammer, in 2011 his women scored 50 points in just shot hammer and discus at the national meet. This guy will get it done, no matter the situation.

This is clearly Gausen guy again. Obviously he wants so badly to be known. Everyone knows other coaches are on here. So he keeps plugging himself so that people have heard his name and assume he is good. Stop promoting yourself. It is too obvious because nobody even knows who you are.

Funny exchange wrote:

Why does he need to promote himself, it is not like a future boss of his is on here reading posts and thinks, "Hmmmm I should hire him!" You guys need to relax and stop coach bashing because no one wants to hire you!

Why do colleges continue to look only at other college coaches when the overwhelming majority of college distance coaches are horrendous? It seems that if you stay in the business long enough you can get hired at a major program. There are 100 HS coaches that are better Than almost all these people. Amazing that job after job goes to these college coaches.

HS coaches get paid better, so they stay in HS ranks. College coaches get paid dirt and continue to drift from job to job until they are getting paid too. Staying at one college job too long is almost a bad thing, makes you look like you can't even get a better job if you tried.

Poor boy wrote:

Why do colleges continue to look only at other college coaches when the overwhelming majority of college distance coaches are horrendous? It seems that if you stay in the business long enough you can get hired at a major program. There are 100 HS coaches that are better Than almost all these people. Amazing that job after job goes to these college coaches.

What you are missing is that 80 of those 100 HS coaches are making far more money in their HS than they would as a distance coach at a mid-major or even at Illinois for example. Lets name someone who would be a great coach at any level. They are normally full-time teachers who have a fair amount of teaching experience and get a supplement for coaching 3 seasons and have summers off where many of them make extra money at camps and in other ways. A college assistant's job is a step for almost all of the guys you are thinking about. Pat Tyson is a great example of the difficulty of the transition and he did it for love of his alma mater.

Poor boy wrote:

Why do colleges continue to look only at other college coaches when the overwhelming majority of college distance coaches are horrendous? It seems that if you stay in the business long enough you can get hired at a major program. There are 100 HS coaches that are better Than almost all these people. Amazing that job after job goes to these college coaches.

What does the public say when a college hires a high school coach, even when he's been successful? Yeah.

Yes, many of the high school coaches I know are far, far better coaches than many college coaches, including a fair number of those who produce top-20 xc finishes. But high school and college coaches are often in it for different things, different reasons.

And besides: I make over $70K per year in a Southern state to teach and to coach xc and track. That's not bad, and I have job security.

Thats bullcrap that there are 100 high school coaches better. Just more BS. Unlike most on this board, I did coach high school and am now a DI coach. There is no comparison. In HS the athletes show up at 3:00pm and they are gone at 5:30pm to their families and you don't have to deal with all their life problems. In college you deal with all of it. Plus at the college level you have to compete against the best of the best each and every week. If one is at the HS level at a big, nice school just based on numbers that school dominates. There have been many examples of high school coaches (Pat Tyson) who went to Kentucky and stunk. Not his fault, just a completely different animal. I would say there are "some" high school coaches that if given the support and time could be excellent at the DI level.

College coaching is not for the faint of heart and no one does it for the money.

It probably takes between 2-5 years if you are lucky after college to get a paid position, after spending those years as a volunteer working just as much as the paid coaches. Then your first year coaching you will probably make between 20-30k a year if you get more than a part time job which is more like 15-16k.

On top of that you are not just coaching. You are a travel agent, a guidance counselor, accountant, recruiter, coach, and much more. It takes a toll physically and mentally on all coaches and is usually more like an 80 hour a week job even if you are a volunteer or only being paid part time.

Coaching college track and field makes teaching high school and coaching look like a wonder job. But we do it because we like make difference in the college kids lives and building the best athletes. These students do not have their parents with them, they are learning to become adults, and usually the first person they call when they have a problem is their coach.

Poor boy wrote:

Why do colleges continue to look only at other college coaches when the overwhelming majority of college distance coaches are horrendous? It seems that if you stay in the business long enough you can get hired at a major program. There are 100 HS coaches that are better Than almost all these people. Amazing that job after job goes to these college coaches.

You sound very dumb. There's a difference in taking a kid that sucks in hs and bringing him to a decent time and taking a kid that is already good in college and trying to make him great while dealing with all the BS that goes on in their lives while in college. HS coaches coach and go home while the majority of the kids go home to their parents. While we have to deal with their classes, social life and athletics. AS a college coach you not only have a MUCH LONGER SEASON but you have to find a way to keep them motivated after they get the scholarship. Most kids work like hell while in hs but as soon as they get that scholarship they lose that eye of the tiger (for a lack of better words). You as a coach have to find a way to get them to keep that in the classroom as well as in on the track. Some HS coaches do a good job but you can never compare a HS coach to a collegiate coach. Its a business when it comes to the NCAA. Coaching is the fun part, the other behind doors crap that you'll never know about is a different beast in itself.

Also, the majority of the time a college coach spends is trying to fix high school coaches mistakes.

You could be a college coach with 5 guys running 15:30. But there is a HUGE difference in taking 5 guys to 15:30 than from taking 5 15:30 guys to 14:00 or faster.

I've done both and they each have their own peculiarities. One thing we could probably all agree upon is that to be good on either level takes a very big time commitment. You also need to have some insight as the internal motivations of kids (yes, I include college athletes in that term).

This next week should shed some light on how the dominoes are falling in college jobs. I'd hate to see the recent events at Penn State chase Beth off as I think she's done a great job with both programs. But, who could blame her-especially if the impending NCAA sanctions make life hard for cc and track.

[quote]Young Throws Coach wrote:

You may be right about the sanctions, but Beth just made the hire of the year. Soon to be announced, already on Facebook, Pat Ebel, from Wisconsin-OshKosh for the throws. Pat is one of the premiere throws coaches in the country at any level and a class guy. Big 10 throws just got that much tougher...if you don't know of Pat, his throwers have absolutely dominated D3, I might be off slightly, but the last 6 NCAA champs in women's hammer, in 2011 his women scored 50 points in just shot hammer and discus at the national meet. This guy will get it done, no matter the situation.[/quo

Hire of the year? Really?