This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
They do not answer your question because if they reply that those countries have a lower median age, then it destroys their insane policy of attempting to give multiple vax doses to everyone regardless of age.
That's BS in any event. Grasping at straws. The massive difference in Covid fatality rate between highly jabb'ed and lowly jabb'ed nations cannot be explained away by throwing that out. There is a massive difference at every age range.
Did you read the article on age adjustment? It is, in fact, entirely explained by population. “At every age range” You are literally making things up. Post data or go home What’s the average age in Uganda vs Italy?
That's BS in any event. Grasping at straws. The massive difference in Covid fatality rate between highly jabb'ed and lowly jabb'ed nations cannot be explained away by throwing that out. There is a massive difference at every age range.
Did you read the article on age adjustment? It is, in fact, entirely explained by population. “At every age range” You are literally making things up. Post data or go home What’s the average age in Uganda vs Italy?
Nitpicking, but from what I've seen and my own back of the envelope calculations it requires both age stratification and consideration of significant under reporting to explain the difference in fatality rate for the African nations.
In any case it's self evidently stupid to point to countries where the median person is dead before the age of 20 as the standard for health care.
They do not answer your question because if they reply that those countries have a lower median age, then it destroys their insane policy of attempting to give multiple vax doses to everyone regardless of age.
They’re younger and less obese, more active with less comorbidities. But you both know the answer, since you answered it yourself.
Vaccines aren’t only supposed to ‘prevent death’. Chickenpox doesn’t kill that many children worldwide, but it does cause significant disability. A vaccine takes care of that.
Heres an example from the military. 500000 infections in active duty personnel x 7 days of minimum isolation for each one who’s sick= 3.5 million days of lost active duty service. That impacts military readiness. A vaccine that’s 80% effective decreases that to 700K days only. Even if ‘they’re not high risk of death’.
Same applies in the healthcare industry. A lot of nurses and MDs taking sick days in the middle of a pandemic isn’t ‘good policy’ because ‘I don’t think I’ll die of Covid’.
Now that the pandemics over, the mandates are all gone. But you can go back to your YouTube videos telling you fascism is around the corner and 9/11 was an inside job.
Nonsense. Chicken Pox is nothing and will not kill or injure in anyway a normal healthy child. I had it when I was young as did my five siblings and virtually every kid on the military base we were living on. More than 1000 kids… zero injuries.
Did you read the article on age adjustment? It is, in fact, entirely explained by population. “At every age range” You are literally making things up. Post data or go home What’s the average age in Uganda vs Italy?
Nitpicking, but from what I've seen and my own back of the envelope calculations it requires both age stratification and consideration of significant under reporting to explain the difference in fatality rate for the African nations.
In any case it's self evidently stupid to point to countries where the median person is dead before the age of 20 as the standard for health care.
The overwhelmingly better outcome of lowly vaxxed nations vs. highly vaxxed nations ends the conversation. All the BS about median ages and claims of nitpicking and undocumented assertions of under reporting and word salads about age stratification cannot make the obvious go away.
What is a median person? R U saying there are nations where 1/2 the people die before age 20? Which ones are those?
Maybe the fact that many of these nations regularly give out ivermectin has something to do with it.
One thing is clear. The actions taken by USA and other nations cost lives, did not save them
Nitpicking, but from what I've seen and my own back of the envelope calculations it requires both age stratification and consideration of significant under reporting to explain the difference in fatality rate for the African nations.
In any case it's self evidently stupid to point to countries where the median person is dead before the age of 20 as the standard for health care.
The overwhelmingly better outcome of lowly vaxxed nations vs. highly vaxxed nations ends the conversation. All the BS about median ages and claims of nitpicking and undocumented assertions of under reporting and word salads about age stratification cannot make the obvious go away.
What is a median person? R U saying there are nations where 1/2 the people die before age 20? Which ones are those?
Maybe the fact that many of these nations regularly give out ivermectin has something to do with it.
One thing is clear. The actions taken by USA and other nations cost lives, did not save them
Those who fell for the official narrative just make stuff up in order to cling to the lie
They’re younger and less obese, more active with less comorbidities. But you both know the answer, since you answered it yourself.
Vaccines aren’t only supposed to ‘prevent death’. Chickenpox doesn’t kill that many children worldwide, but it does cause significant disability. A vaccine takes care of that.
Heres an example from the military. 500000 infections in active duty personnel x 7 days of minimum isolation for each one who’s sick= 3.5 million days of lost active duty service. That impacts military readiness. A vaccine that’s 80% effective decreases that to 700K days only. Even if ‘they’re not high risk of death’.
Same applies in the healthcare industry. A lot of nurses and MDs taking sick days in the middle of a pandemic isn’t ‘good policy’ because ‘I don’t think I’ll die of Covid’.
Now that the pandemics over, the mandates are all gone. But you can go back to your YouTube videos telling you fascism is around the corner and 9/11 was an inside job.
Nonsense. Chicken Pox is nothing and will not kill or injure in anyway a normal healthy child. I had it when I was young as did my five siblings and virtually every kid on the military base we were living on. More than 1000 kids… zero injuries.
Roughly 10k kids were hospitalized (0.25% of cases) by chickenpox each year pre vaccine.
Shingles also sucks and 1-4% of people with shingles are hospitalized.
You’re welcome to roll the dice with your children but I suspect they will resent you.
Nitpicking, but from what I've seen and my own back of the envelope calculations it requires both age stratification and consideration of significant under reporting to explain the difference in fatality rate for the African nations.
In any case it's self evidently stupid to point to countries where the median person is dead before the age of 20 as the standard for health care.
The overwhelmingly better outcome of lowly vaxxed nations vs. highly vaxxed nations ends the conversation. All the BS about median ages and claims of nitpicking and undocumented assertions of under reporting and word salads about age stratification cannot make the obvious go away.
What is a median person? R U saying there are nations where 1/2 the people die before age 20? Which ones are those?
Maybe the fact that many of these nations regularly give out ivermectin has something to do with it.
One thing is clear. The actions taken by USA and other nations cost lives, did not save them
The average person is under 17 year olds in Nigeria. In the US 37, in Italy 47.
Comparing then without adjustment is hilariously stupid…
Nonsense. Chicken Pox is nothing and will not kill or injure in anyway a normal healthy child. I had it when I was young as did my five siblings and virtually every kid on the military base we were living on. More than 1000 kids… zero injuries.
Roughly 10k kids were hospitalized (0.25% of cases) by chickenpox each year pre vaccine.
Shingles also sucks and 1-4% of people with shingles are hospitalized.
You’re welcome to roll the dice with your children but I suspect they will resent you.
Giving your kids infectious diseases with known long term effects to own the libs
USA non-covid deaths in the younger age groups, 2020 – 2021Years mostly completehttps://www.soa.org/4a55a7/globalassets/assets/files/resources/research-repor...
Where is the claim that more young people have been dying from heart issue since 2021 than were dying from them in prior years debunked? I can't find it
I have been vaccinated 5 times. Last one was 10 months ago. I have been cycling 150 to 180 miles a week and running around 35 miles a week. Nothing compared to what I have been doing. Now I can barely walk from being dizzy. I went out to the Alamo in Newnan, Georgia. Last two days I have had a fever and all the other symptoms of covid. Just got back to Texas a few hours ago and tested positive for covid. Bummer.
The overwhelmingly better outcome of lowly vaxxed nations vs. highly vaxxed nations ends the conversation. All the BS about median ages and claims of nitpicking and undocumented assertions of under reporting and word salads about age stratification cannot make the obvious go away.
What is a median person? R U saying there are nations where 1/2 the people die before age 20? Which ones are those?
Maybe the fact that many of these nations regularly give out ivermectin has something to do with it.
One thing is clear. The actions taken by USA and other nations cost lives, did not save them
The average person is under 17 year olds in Nigeria. In the US 37, in Italy 47.
Comparing then without adjustment is hilariously stupid…
So basically antivaxxers are still being antivaxxers. Got it, the universe is still in balance!
This article contains the current number of confirmed COVID-19 deaths per population by country. It also has cumulative death totals by country. For these numbers over time see the tables, graphs, and maps at COVID-19 pandemi...
This article is a list of countries by median age. Methodology The median age is the index that divides the entire population into two numerically equal age groups, one younger than that age and the other older than that age....
It's been said before and is worth reiterating... the unvaxxed Amish came through Covid just fine. In fact they were back up and running full throttle in their businesses and farms by May, 2020. There are around 400,000 Amish scattered throughout the States. That is a large sample. If there were mass disproportionate deaths among the Amish, the New York Times would have been gleefully dancing on their graves in article after article after article.
Btw, the rate of autism among the unvaxxed Amish is so low that it is hard to find. Food for thought (for those capable of thought).
It's been said before and is worth reiterating... the unvaxxed Amish came through Covid just fine. In fact they were back up and running full throttle in their businesses and farms by May, 2020. There are around 400,000 Amish scattered throughout the States. That is a large sample. If there were mass disproportionate deaths among the Amish, . . .
Why do you think this is worth reiterating when you've been shown data that Amish certainly were dying during the covid waves of 2020-21 at about the rate one would expect?
