Robert Young fakes run across America

Messed up priorities wrote:

swimandbikeandrun wrote:

The for the children line never gets old

What about his own children? He should get a job and support his family.

Rojo should allow Robert Young the opportunity to fill in for Mike Rossi -- $200k if he can run a marathon in 3:11:45 by July 15th.

I guess a little risky though as there is the possibility Robert could run a 3:11 (as opposed to Mike who had 0 chance).

Take those bananas wrote:Rob can shut everyone up by uploading GPS data. It's that simple. Why isn't this happening? One question.

I still don't get how GPS data, which could be from a watch in the RV, proves anything. How does having the GPS data make the questions about the impossible splits in the desert and the RV rolling without a runner disappear?

It's doesn't take a genius to see that CoachKev will never address any of the important/relevant issues. Just more of the 'people are bashing' and 'Robert is suffering' nonsense.

Here's the link for the data, in case anyone missed it:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBkfw48Jv6JlP0gBLP5JbPt6qz5Qfyf105fIXYa_hAk/edit

searcher of answers wrote:

65 pages and it doesn't look like we're any closer to people actually going to meet him. What's the latest?

Good point. I guess the folks who are following this thread and live close to the route, are too busy to follow Rob by car, bike or on foot.

What happened to those ultra guys, who said they would shadow Rob for a week? I predict nobody from LRC is going to make an effort to meet Rob. Asher remains our only eyewitness.

I live too far away in South FL, if Rob made a detour to Ft Laud then I'd hop into my car or bike and follow him.

Regarding his go fund me. No chance of fraud for saying or doing anything about how many percentage goes to charity. However. Every penny that cannot be documented as donated to a recognized charity is taxable as income. Hope they are saving receipts so their accountant can properly file business expenses or otherwise that's a lot of income tax to pay in April.

elephino wrote:

Take those bananas wrote:Rob can shut everyone up by uploading GPS data. It's that simple. Why isn't this happening? One question.

I still don't get how GPS data, which could be from a watch in the RV, proves anything. How does having the GPS data make the questions about the impossible splits in the desert and the RV rolling without a runner disappear?

His watch has a Cadence function

win win wrote:

Messed up priorities wrote:

What about his own children? He should get a job and support his family.

Rojo should allow Robert Young the opportunity to fill in for Mike Rossi -- $200k if he can run a marathon in 3:11:45 by July 15th.

I guess a little risky though as there is the possibility Robert could run a 3:11 (as opposed to Mike who had 0 chance).

I'm pretty confident he could easily run that if he rested up for a few days, he did 25.74M in 2.53 at the end of May. Right now today probably not based on (or his watch did anyway).

"have had a couple real bad days - legs are real sore and hurting and I'm a little mentally beat"

I just watched a video with LA Beast, who is training to walk across America himself later this year, spelling out 'I Eat Poo' on his Nike+ GPS app.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfmKsvOraKc

, starting around the 6min mark.

Somewhat refreshing after all the inspiring children and charity-talk.

All talk, no action wrote:

searcher of answers wrote:

65 pages and it doesn't look like we're any closer to people actually going to meet him. What's the latest?

Good point. I guess the folks who are following this thread and live close to the route, are too busy to follow Rob by car, bike or on foot.

What happened to those ultra guys, who said they would shadow Rob for a week? I predict nobody from LRC is going to make an effort to meet Rob. Asher remains our only eyewitness.

I live too far away in South FL, if Rob made a detour to Ft Laud then I'd hop into my car or bike and follow him.

They are in route, coming from the SE United States. Dont know exactly when they will arrive. I think they might be keeping that to themselves.

searcher of answers wrote:

65 pages and it doesn't look like we're any closer to people actually going to meet him. What's the latest?

It doesn't appear this will be necessary, but I've put in some cash toward the effort just to be sure

Can anyone verify his service in the military? Supposedly he served from age 17-22.5 which would be 1999-2004 ish. It says he served in the Royal Corps of Signals which is part of the British Army. It would be nice to verify so we can understand an accurate timeline of this guy's life.

doesn't take a genius wrote:

Take those bananas wrote:

Hey Kev, apologies for any bashing but there are some of us asking legitimate questions. Rob can shut everyone up by uploading GPS data. It's that simple. Why isn't this happening? One question.

It's doesn't take a genius to see that CoachKev will never address any of the important/relevant issues. Just more of the 'people are bashing' and 'Robert is suffering' nonsense.

Rob is tough, cannot be stopped, and feels no pain. Except for posts on a message board that is. Those make him suffer and prevent him from running. He can run 300+ miles without sleeping, but cannot endure internet conversations of pseudonymous strangers.

It is the weekend, but I'm not going to spend it flying thousands of miles on short notice to go run with a guy in the middle of nowhere. My excuse is, well, I don't want to.

TroLLminator wrote:

searcher of answers wrote:

65 pages and it doesn't look like we're any closer to people actually going to meet him. What's the latest?

It doesn't appear this will be necessary, but I've put in some cash toward the effort just to be sure

If he makes it to Ohio, I'll go check him out for sure.

CoachKev wrote:

Kevlar wrote:

Where's Kev gone?

Rob is suffering in this run, of that there is no doubt, making him suffer more with posts like many of you have done is terrible and you should be ashamed.

Let the man run

Phillip_Hampton wrote:

Here's the link for the data, in case anyone missed it:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBkfw48Jv6JlP0gBLP5JbPt6qz5Qfyf105fIXYa_hAk/edit

On page 33 I listed all of the race results I could see for him. There were 10 marathons listed not 3 (though the 3:07 in London was the quickest)

win win wrote:

Rojo should allow Robert Young the opportunity to fill in for Mike Rossi -- $200k if he can run a marathon in 3:11:45 by July 15th.

I guess a little risky though as there is the possibility Robert could run a 3:11 (as opposed to Mike who had 0 chance).

Please read the thread before posting. He has a verified time at the 2015 London Marathon in 3:07 which includes race photos and complete 5K splits. There seems to be nothing questionable about that race. And he ran that while competing in Race Across USA 2015 by flying to London and back. His 3 marathons in London and Brighton can be verified, even though there is much that is flat false in his website, wikipedia page, and book.

read before posting wrote:

win win wrote:

Rojo should allow Robert Young the opportunity to fill in for Mike Rossi -- $200k if he can run a marathon in 3:11:45 by July 15th.

I guess a little risky though as there is the possibility Robert could run a 3:11 (as opposed to Mike who had 0 chance).

Please read the thread before posting. He has a verified time at the 2015 London Marathon in 3:07 which includes race photos and complete 5K splits. There seems to be nothing questionable about that race. And he ran that while competing in Race Across USA 2015 by flying to London and back. His 3 marathons in London and Brighton can be verified, even though there is much that is flat false in his website, wikipedia page, and book.

I meant run a 3:11 by July 15th. I assume he is rather beat up currently and I doubt a 3:11 (for someone with a 3:07 (or is it 2:41 PB)) would be a given.

Of course, if he's like Mike in other ways, the likely brutal temps between now and July 15th might make it more likely he could run a 3:11.

Kevlar wrote:

Kev -

Please answer:

1. Do you think his 40 mile efforts at sub 7 min mile pace through the desert are genuine?

2. Why have they stopped since this thread started?

3. What do you now think about his pro cycling career?

4. What do you think about his marathon and half marathon pbs vanishing from his website?

5. You're not there either. Is your mind open to the POSSIBILITY he has lied and cheated?

1. I have no idea as i'm not there but I do think its very possible.

2. Why has what stopped? If you mean Rob running he still is and he is very tired. the heat is crazy and he has run a lot of miles. There is a huge amount of respect now on Ultra list for what he is doing and this is coming from respected athletes not people who hide behind keyboards.

3. I have no idea but I think this looks very much like Rob at the back of the pack if you increase the size of the pic. I have asked for more evidence direct and will post when i get more

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4. I would estimate that they are looking into the full details. I know at London when he ran 3.07 he stopped and was interviewed for around 15-20 minutes and I think ti was by lucozade but I will get this clarified and a link to show the interview if this is possible. If you take 15 mins off this 3.07 then his probability of running 2.41 is highly probable

5.My mind is very open to this possibility. I do know a bit more than many of the doubters on here AND I have run with him on a few occasions.

I say let him continue running and get people on the ground running with him. Surely the original poster who put the various VERY suspect videos on here will be only maybe 100 miles away and could go along and view or run with Rob now.

It's very sad to see so many haters and people saying things that they have no evidence at all or reason to say. There is shed loads of speculation and no concrete evidence. I am trying to provide concrete evcidence and not hyperbole.

Ironically the poster who called him self aperrson is not Andy Persson at all. This fraud account posted that he had spoken to Rob's Fiance Joanna and this never happened as I spoke to Joanna about this today.

If people want to pretend to be someone they are not then how can anyone believe anything on this or other threads. People need to be transparent and not hide behind aliases or BS names. At least i am being genuine and have no agenda other than to support someone I trust and believe in.

I have run with Rob. I have donated to his various charities and contributed a tiny amount when he was in deep financial trouble on his race across America.

I can assure you all that he has NEVER taken any money from any of his charities and to say so is not only a downright lie but it could get those who say this into trouble. I will get full disclosure on this from the various charities and post here when I have it.

Rob has had some supporters financially at home in the UK and has also received some sponsorship money but I can tell you he is not making any decent money or even any money worth talking about. He is constantly on the breadline.

His book sales will help a little but believe me when I tell you that he will probably earn in the region of £1.00 per book until that book has sold at least 2 reprints and then it will increase to maybe the princely sum of £2.00 a book. (This last statement on the book sales alone is my estimation and belief and is not a hard fact)

If you want to really hurt Rob and make him suffer then why don't you let him complete the challenge as running with this level of scrutiny for the remaining distance will be very intense. However defaming his character and saying he has stolen money is slanderous.

I agree there seem to be inconsistencies with some of his times but Rob has run hundreds of races in his time and whilst times are important to many they don't really have that much of a bearing for him. As we get more information I will post here.

I will happily answer any questions that I have answers to and if I don't have an answer I will endeavour to find it for you all as long as it is relevant and not just some dumb ass statement of malice.

In the mean time please let him run and go and join him for a run but keep the really nasty stuff for the really nasty people who deserve it. This is just a guy running across a country, it's not life or death. If he does beat the record then there will be plenty of people who will be on his case to prove every aspect of this.