There are dead kids and infants from the Hamas attack. Even if they weren’t beheaded, it doesn’t change the fact that Hamas is evil and people who try to make up moral equivalencies or justify their actions are not good people.
People here are being attacked and accused of being anti-semitic just for questioning Bibi's decision to carpet bomb Gaza and starve them out.
there's no carpet bombing going on. Let's be disciplined with facts here.
You just won't answer the question as to whether you support what Israel is doing.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Why not make your stance known?
I've never supported innocent civilians being killed,if civilians have been killed by Israel looking for terrorists then that's sad,but they are clearly being precise in who they are targeting as there are still less Gazans dead than Israelis.
I bring Russia up to show how hypocritical you are.
There are dead kids and infants from the Hamas attack. Even if they weren’t beheaded, it doesn’t change the fact that Hamas is evil and people who try to make up moral equivalencies or justify their actions are not good people.
People here are being attacked and accused of being anti-semitic just for questioning Bibi's decision to carpet bomb Gaza and starve them out.
You're being accused of being anti-semitic because you're clearly anti-semitic.
SMH....ask yourself how is it that Israel controls the flow of water, electricity and goods that pass between the electric fence and wall they built to keep Palestinians in the Gaza?
Go read up on all the battles and conflicts that have happened in the last 75 years.
Ask yourself why Israelis have continued to take land and call themselves "settlers" and not invaders. Israel has murdered tens of thousands. You don't even know what happened in 2021 in Gaza about the thousands that the Israeli killed on the streets of Gaza.
This story of Israel being wronged is the same damn story that invaders always say when the land they invaded and the people they subjugate fight back. They don't like the manner in which they fought back, evrn though they did the same thing in invading the land. They reduce them to savages, barbarians and the last 50 years....terrorists.
May I remind everyone that the United States called Nelson Mandela and the ANC terrorists. They would call Native Americans today terrorists for their actions when they fought back agaisnt their oppressors.
If anyone in their right and sane mind doesn't see what happened to the Palestinians as oppressive....then that word doesn't exist.
What we are witnessing and have witnessed has been going on forever and it's not right.
You just won't answer the question as to whether you support what Israel is doing.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Why not make your stance known?
I've never supported innocent civilians being killed,if civilians have been killed by Israel looking for terrorists then that's sad,but they are clearly being precise in who they are targeting as there are still less Gazans dead than Israelis.
I bring Russia up to show how hypocritical you are.
Israel has shut off electricity, fuel, food, water to 2 million Gazans and is bombing the Hell out of Gaza. They are targeting every single Gazan with this approach. They are announcing this. Why do you think they are not targeting civilians?
Ginamator, would you wholeheartedly agree with the following:
1) Israel has the right to retaliate against Hamas with a vengeance?
2) Hamas are animals. Savages.
You agree with both of those?
You post within 1 min of each other and it's all the same drivel.. come on man
1) Israel has the right to retaliate against Hamas, but not against Palestinian civilians. They are doing much more of the latter than the former.
2) Clearly Hamas are POS terrorists - has anyone here disagreed with that?
Your turn: 1) Do you think Israel is justified in murdering civilians, turning off power to 2 million people and preventing them from getting food, water and shelter?
2) Do you think this response against civilians is in any proportional to what Hamas has done to Israelis? For example, the burning of one Israeli infant = leveling a whole residential building. The direct death toll of Palestinians from the bombings alone is already higher than the Israeli deaths.. we will see about the starvation and number of permanently injured. How many more Palestinians do you want to see death to feel satisfied with the revenge?
Here you are again trying to play the moral equivalency game. Your kind are on the wrong side of history again.
Hamas sucks. they suck for Palestinians and suck for Israel.
the current Israeli govt sucks. still not as bad as Hamas. They do deserve criticism though.
I am for Palestinians and Israelis who want peace. Imo the best hope for peace is to undermine right wing Israelis who support settlements and groups like Hamas. imo the best hope is for a two state solution based on the 1967 lines. I z
am not naive and recognize that won’t end the violence.
Israel left Gaza and that did not end the violet but few Israelis want Israel to reoccupy it.
There are dead kids and infants from the Hamas attack. Even if they weren’t beheaded, it doesn’t change the fact that Hamas is evil and people who try to make up moral equivalencies or justify their actions are not good people.
People here are being attacked and accused of being anti-semitic just for questioning Bibi's decision to carpet bomb Gaza and starve them out.
Possibly Naive Guy, here. While I fully assume that Israel sometimes gets strikes wrong, and perhaps sometimes show too little concern for civilian causalities, I also assume that they're quite similar to the U.S. and other U.S. allies who put a good deal of sincere and rigorous effort into avoiding such things. Does anyone have clear evidence to the contrary? Something that would come close to justifying the use of a phrase like "carpet bombing?"
Never said that whereas you happily supported Russia doing EXACTLY the same as you arebsaying israel are doing.
Why is it OK for Russia to kill 30k in Bahkmut,but not ok for Israel to kill less Gazans than Israelis?
I remember Newname saying that it was time for Russia to "take the gloves off".
He conveniently won't remember that though since it doesn't fit his current narrative.
Talk about a liar.
I noted that Russia was about to take the gloves off after going into Ukraine quite softly -- compare to what US did to Iraq from the jump.
Yes, your lies are disgusting.
And meant to distract from the question at hand. Do you support the actions Israel are taking? For you, the question might be do you know want actions Israel are taking.
I've never supported innocent civilians being killed,if civilians have been killed by Israel looking for terrorists then that's sad,but they are clearly being precise in who they are targeting as there are still less Gazans dead than Israelis.
I bring Russia up to show how hypocritical you are.
Israel has shut off electricity, fuel, food, water to 2 million Gazans and is bombing the Hell out of Gaza. They are targeting every single Gazan with this approach. They are announcing this. Why do you think they are not targeting civilians?
Why do you think Hamas should be allowed to hide behind civilians?
Hamas WANTS Palestinians to die more than anyone else on the planet.
There are dead kids and infants from the Hamas attack. Even if they weren’t beheaded, it doesn’t change the fact that Hamas is evil and people who try to make up moral equivalencies or justify their actions are not good people.
People here are being attacked and accused of being anti-semitic just for questioning Bibi's decision to carpet bomb Gaza and starve them out.
You’re being accused of being anti-Semitic because you are anti-Semitic. Threads like these always expose the anti-semites, bigots, racists, homophones, transphobes, etc. They just can help it.
I remember Newname saying that it was time for Russia to "take the gloves off".
He conveniently won't remember that though since it doesn't fit his current narrative.
Talk about a liar.
I noted that Russia was about to take the gloves off after going into Ukraine quite softly -- compare to what US did to Iraq from the jump.
Yes, your lies are disgusting.
And meant to distract from the question at hand. Do you support the actions Israel are taking? For you, the question might be do you know want actions Israel are taking.
No. You supported Russia targeting civilians. You predicted Ukraine would be wiped off the map. And you were quite smug and self-satisfied about that prediction.
People here are being attacked and accused of being anti-semitic just for questioning Bibi's decision to carpet bomb Gaza and starve them out.
there's no carpet bombing going on. Let's be disciplined with facts here.
fair point.. to correct myself, at least through Monday morning, they had dropped about 2k bombs (more than 1k tons worth). Haven't seen stats on the last few days
People here are being attacked and accused of being anti-semitic just for questioning Bibi's decision to carpet bomb Gaza and starve them out.
You’re being accused of being anti-Semitic because you are anti-Semitic. Threads like these always expose the anti-semites, bigots, racists, homophones, transphobes, etc. They just can help it.
You post within 1 min of each other and it's all the same drivel.. come on man
1) Israel has the right to retaliate against Hamas, but not against Palestinian civilians. They are doing much more of the latter than the former.
2) Clearly Hamas are POS terrorists - has anyone here disagreed with that?
Your turn: 1) Do you think Israel is justified in murdering civilians, turning off power to 2 million people and preventing them from getting food, water and shelter?
2) Do you think this response against civilians is in any proportional to what Hamas has done to Israelis? For example, the burning of one Israeli infant = leveling a whole residential building. The direct death toll of Palestinians from the bombings alone is already higher than the Israeli deaths.. we will see about the starvation and number of permanently injured. How many more Palestinians do you want to see death to feel satisfied with the revenge?
Here you are again trying to play the moral equivalency game. Your kind are on the wrong side of history again.
Kudos to you for admitting Hamas are POS terrorists. Has anyone disagreed with that? Sure, NewName is calling Hamas "the good guys."