This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
DanM, you are the best. COVID conspiracy has made you a remarkable person.
nobody has to "own" you guys
you owned yourselves by injecting yourselves multiple times with a totally-worthless-at-best, fatal-at-worst experimental 'vaccine' for a virus your age bracket had a 99.99+% chance of surviving and that posed minimal adverse events for anyone remotely healthy who followed commonsense protocols (i.e., not what Fauci and clan convinced you was right)
it's really a shame, because now you have to waste every day trying to convince yourselves and us by making dozens of asinine posts asserting you weren't duped and were the smart ones all along listening to 'the experts' literally paid to shill for the product you needlessly injected
the fact that you (a) caved to the injection, and (b) defend your masters so willingly just further proves what you made obvious from the beginning: you're weak
Inherently and undeniably.
Most people have moved on, admitting it was bullsh*t and fear-mongering, but you guys can't admit that (because you're weak) so you squirm about trying to protect your egos as the evidence of your retarded decisionmaking increases daily
lol I can't imagine being so pathetic
but if you're genuinely perplexed, and wondering why you're such obvious losers, here's a guide to your psychology:
Double vaxxed Mrs. DanM is sick with Covid. That's the diagnosis from the physician at the local urgent care clinic. Last night her temperature was 102. She is coughing and miserable. Much sicker than I was during my brief 2-day bout with Omicron in early 2022.
Unvaxxed me is in energetic robust health. I am moving swiftly throughout our abode performing a variety of household chores.
Making fun of your sick wife to own the libs.
DanM, you are the best. COVID conspiracy has made you a remarkable person.
Is he really making fun of her or is he simply pointing out the circumstances? I don’t see that he’s mocking her at all. It’s consistent with what I’m seeing. Google immunological imprinting and immune tolerance.
I guess you guys were right about J&J - It was pulled pretty quickly. Pfizer and Moderna ones still good though yo
If you make an effort to change that with the fda and the regulatory bodies worldwide lemme know. If anything gets released during the advisory meetings to show otherwise, lemme know.
Only copying the abstract here but fascinating paper. Long read.
“Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platforms have been administered. To date, 72.3% of the total population has been injected at least once with a COVID-19 vaccine. As the immunity provided by these vaccines rapidly wanes, their ability to prevent hospitalization and severe disease in individuals with comorbidities has recently been questioned, and increasing evidence has shown that, as with many other vaccines, they do not produce sterilizing immunity, allowing people to suffer frequent re-infections. Additionally, recent investigations have found abnormally high levels of IgG4 in people who were administered two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines. HIV, Malaria, and Pertussis vaccines have also been reported to induce higher-than-normal IgG4 synthesis. Overall, there are three critical factors determining the class switch to IgG4 antibodies: excessive antigen concentration, repeated vaccination, and the type of vaccine used. It has been suggested that an increase in IgG4 levels could have a protecting role by preventing immune over-activation, similar to that occurring during successful allergen-specific immunotherapy by inhibiting IgE-induced effects. However, emerging evidence suggests that the reported increase in IgG4 levels detected after repeated vaccination with the mRNA vaccines may not be a protective mechanism; rather, it constitutes an immune tolerance mechanism to the spike protein that could promote unopposed SARS-CoV2 infection and replication by suppressing natural antiviral responses. Increased IgG4 synthesis due to repeated mRNA vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause autoimmune diseases, and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis in susceptible individuals.”
Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platf...
Only copying the abstract here but fascinating paper. Long read.
“Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platforms have been administered. To date, 72.3% of the total population has been injected at least once with a COVID-19 vaccine. As the immunity provided by these vaccines rapidly wanes, their ability to prevent hospitalization and severe disease in individuals with comorbidities has recently been questioned, and increasing evidence has shown that, as with many other vaccines, they do not produce sterilizing immunity, allowing people to suffer frequent re-infections. Additionally, recent investigations have found abnormally high levels of IgG4 in people who were administered two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines. HIV, Malaria, and Pertussis vaccines have also been reported to induce higher-than-normal IgG4 synthesis. Overall, there are three critical factors determining the class switch to IgG4 antibodies: excessive antigen concentration, repeated vaccination, and the type of vaccine used. It has been suggested that an increase in IgG4 levels could have a protecting role by preventing immune over-activation, similar to that occurring during successful allergen-specific immunotherapy by inhibiting IgE-induced effects. However, emerging evidence suggests that the reported increase in IgG4 levels detected after repeated vaccination with the mRNA vaccines may not be a protective mechanism; rather, it constitutes an immune tolerance mechanism to the spike protein that could promote unopposed SARS-CoV2 infection and replication by suppressing natural antiviral responses. Increased IgG4 synthesis due to repeated mRNA vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause autoimmune diseases, and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis in susceptible individuals.”
Only copying the abstract here but fascinating paper. Long read.
“Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platforms have been administered. To date, 72.3% of the total population has been injected at least once with a COVID-19 vaccine. As the immunity provided by these vaccines rapidly wanes, their ability to prevent hospitalization and severe disease in individuals with comorbidities has recently been questioned, and increasing evidence has shown that, as with many other vaccines, they do not produce sterilizing immunity, allowing people to suffer frequent re-infections. Additionally, recent investigations have found abnormally high levels of IgG4 in people who were administered two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines. HIV, Malaria, and Pertussis vaccines have also been reported to induce higher-than-normal IgG4 synthesis. Overall, there are three critical factors determining the class switch to IgG4 antibodies: excessive antigen concentration, repeated vaccination, and the type of vaccine used. It has been suggested that an increase in IgG4 levels could have a protecting role by preventing immune over-activation, similar to that occurring during successful allergen-specific immunotherapy by inhibiting IgE-induced effects. However, emerging evidence suggests that the reported increase in IgG4 levels detected after repeated vaccination with the mRNA vaccines may not be a protective mechanism; rather, it constitutes an immune tolerance mechanism to the spike protein that could promote unopposed SARS-CoV2 infection and replication by suppressing natural antiviral responses. Increased IgG4 synthesis due to repeated mRNA vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause autoimmune diseases, and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis in susceptible individuals.”
Only copying the abstract here but fascinating paper. Long read.
“Less than a year after the global emergence of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2, a novel vaccine platform based on mRNA technology was introduced to the market. Globally, around 13.38 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses of diverse platforms have been administered. To date, 72.3% of the total population has been injected at least once with a COVID-19 vaccine. As the immunity provided by these vaccines rapidly wanes, their ability to prevent hospitalization and severe disease in individuals with comorbidities has recently been questioned, and increasing evidence has shown that, as with many other vaccines, they do not produce sterilizing immunity, allowing people to suffer frequent re-infections. Additionally, recent investigations have found abnormally high levels of IgG4 in people who were administered two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines. HIV, Malaria, and Pertussis vaccines have also been reported to induce higher-than-normal IgG4 synthesis. Overall, there are three critical factors determining the class switch to IgG4 antibodies: excessive antigen concentration, repeated vaccination, and the type of vaccine used. It has been suggested that an increase in IgG4 levels could have a protecting role by preventing immune over-activation, similar to that occurring during successful allergen-specific immunotherapy by inhibiting IgE-induced effects. However, emerging evidence suggests that the reported increase in IgG4 levels detected after repeated vaccination with the mRNA vaccines may not be a protective mechanism; rather, it constitutes an immune tolerance mechanism to the spike protein that could promote unopposed SARS-CoV2 infection and replication by suppressing natural antiviral responses. Increased IgG4 synthesis due to repeated mRNA vaccination with high antigen concentrations may also cause autoimmune diseases, and promote cancer growth and autoimmune myocarditis in susceptible individuals.”
Here’s a review by a crank in a predatory pay-to-play fake journal with no data and just speculative musing. This sh*t is so boring and tired.
This is a mainstream node. No data and every single scientific journal cross referenced not legitimate? You really have lost the plot. Specifically what do you debunk and specifically why?
Me thinks you just outted yourself. Yelling and screaming and saying this sh*t is so boring and tired like it gives you both authority or credibility, when it does neither. You are the crank. You have a PhD in virology specifically? Didn’t think so. If it’s so boring & tired, then you are gone, right?
Go get your wife some soup bro! We got this covered.
so when will you be getting your booster?
Point. match. the idiots can’t answer that question. no matter how gung ho. the answer is never. all the big talkers are just as finished with the make believe vaccine as the smart ones were that stayed away to begin with. but, they gotta live with it now
Here’s a review by a crank in a predatory pay-to-play fake journal with no data and just speculative musing. This sh*t is so boring and tired.
This is a mainstream node. No data and every single scientific journal cross referenced not legitimate? You really have lost the plot. Specifically what do you debunk and specifically why?
Me thinks you just outted yourself. Yelling and screaming and saying this sh*t is so boring and tired like it gives you both authority or credibility, when it does neither. You are the crank. You have a PhD in virology specifically? Didn’t think so. If it’s so boring & tired, then you are gone, right?
Sure bro, I have a PhD in Virology, but I don’t need it to know that posting reviews is meaningless to your case. I can read Janeway if I wanna learn about IgG4 I don’t need a someone desperate for some citations to try and tie it to COVID vaccines.
I find your attempts at providing evidence boring and tired. That’s not trying to establish authority. That’s just how I feel. You have scraps of data and ideas. Nothing comprehensive or convincing. Anyone with half a brain dan generate 1000 plausible biological theories for any speculative outcome. Thats not useful nor does it keep me awake.
Point. match. the idiots can’t answer that question. no matter how gung ho. the answer is never. all the big talkers are just as finished with the make believe vaccine as the smart ones were that stayed away to begin with. but, they gotta live with it now
I have been boosted already? Dumb question. Stupider reply.
I like when you and DG come over from the Trump thread. Always good for a laugh.
The COVID vaccines have saved 300k American lives.
This is a mainstream node. No data and every single scientific journal cross referenced not legitimate? You really have lost the plot. Specifically what do you debunk and specifically why?
Me thinks you just outted yourself. Yelling and screaming and saying this sh*t is so boring and tired like it gives you both authority or credibility, when it does neither. You are the crank. You have a PhD in virology specifically? Didn’t think so. If it’s so boring & tired, then you are gone, right?
Sure bro, I have a PhD in Virology, but I don’t need it to know that posting reviews is meaningless to your case. I can read Janeway if I wanna learn about IgG4 I don’t need a someone desperate for some citations to try and tie it to COVID vaccines.
I find your attempts at providing evidence boring and tired. That’s not trying to establish authority. That’s just how I feel. You have scraps of data and ideas. Nothing comprehensive or convincing. Anyone with half a brain dan generate 1000 plausible biological theories for any speculative outcome. Thats not useful nor does it keep me awake.
The poster posted a paper that you quickly said was garbage without providing a defense. Would you like a second chance to specifically defend your position?
Point. match. the idiots can’t answer that question. no matter how gung ho. the answer is never. all the big talkers are just as finished with the make believe vaccine as the smart ones were that stayed away to begin with. but, they gotta live with it now
I have been boosted already? Dumb question. Stupider reply.
I like when you and DG come over from the Trump thread. Always good for a laugh.
The COVID vaccines have saved 300k American lives.
You have to keep getting boosted. When was your most booster? When is your next one?
I have been boosted already? Dumb question. Stupider reply.
I like when you and DG come over from the Trump thread. Always good for a laugh.
The COVID vaccines have saved 300k American lives.
You have to keep getting boosted. When was your most booster? When is your next one?
These freaks try to have it both ways. On one hand, they try saying the vax does not stay in your system forever and then, in their next breath, say dumb stuff like this fool that he has already been boosted, as if there is no need for another.
the proof is in the pudding. if you aren’t still getting boosted then you don’t believe in it any longer. you just cannot handle being taken by Fauci n company. there is no proof that the vax saved a single life, let alone untold millions
You have to keep getting boosted. When was your most booster? When is your next one?
These freaks try to have it both ways. On one hand, they try saying the vax does not stay in your system forever and then, in their next breath, say dumb stuff like this fool that he has already been boosted, as if there is no need for another.
the proof is in the pudding. if you aren’t still getting boosted then you don’t believe in it any longer. you just cannot handle being taken by Fauci n company. there is no proof that the vax saved a single life, let alone untold millions
Curious as to whether people like him are still getting their regular jab shots (called boosters) as directed.
Sure bro, I have a PhD in Virology, but I don’t need it to know that posting reviews is meaningless to your case. I can read Janeway if I wanna learn about IgG4 I don’t need a someone desperate for some citations to try and tie it to COVID vaccines.
I find your attempts at providing evidence boring and tired. That’s not trying to establish authority. That’s just how I feel. You have scraps of data and ideas. Nothing comprehensive or convincing. Anyone with half a brain dan generate 1000 plausible biological theories for any speculative outcome. Thats not useful nor does it keep me awake.
The poster posted a paper that you quickly said was garbage without providing a defense. Would you like a second chance to specifically defend your position?
A review article isn’t a research paper. It has no data. It’s just musing about possibilities. They have a time and place; for surveying knowledge in a field. But it certainly isn’t an example of good evidence or data to support to a theory.
These freaks try to have it both ways. On one hand, they try saying the vax does not stay in your system forever and then, in their next breath, say dumb stuff like this fool that he has already been boosted, as if there is no need for another.
the proof is in the pudding. if you aren’t still getting boosted then you don’t believe in it any longer. you just cannot handle being taken by Fauci n company. there is no proof that the vax saved a single life, let alone untold millions
Curious as to whether people like him are still getting their regular jab shots (called boosters) as directed.
Lol all the CDC says is you need ONE updated dose, not per year, just ONE.
That could be 3 or 4 total shots as long as one is the updated vaccine. You realize many vaccines required 3-3 doses? You pretty much just posted to show the COVID vaccine is just like every one vaccine - thanks!
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