Living with Tom must be rubbing off on her, she'll be back to 5 hour marathons and crying for clicks before we know it
Get ready for walking in the second half with plenty of tears and saying "I've put so much into this and deserved a better ending" - yes, 2 or 3 hours of running a week for someone with no kids and who's literal job is running is putting in "so much"
Okay we have reached new levels of runfluencer age stupidity. Truett Hanes admits to eating between 200-300g of Carbs a day in latest video. To the mother freakin gills.
I don’t think you’re wrong here. But what’s the implication? Why does that make you think he’s dirty?
But posting a video about an altitude camp titled "something something training for 3:30" is pretty ridiculous.
Struggling with the site, but looks like she got 3:28:54?
The altitude cr*p was clearly just a weird Asics promo (she's even listed as an Asics athlete here!), but fair play to her if she managed it. I imagine there was tears either way, in true Running Channel fashion.
Yep, looks like she did it. She’s a pretty decent runner - watching her run at her 5km pace she looks efficient. If anything 3:30 is a soft target for someone running 19:xx 5km
As someone said earlier in the thread, Sarah desperately trying to still relate to the 5 hour hobby joggers whilst also attending an altitude camp when her last 3 months of training on Strava has been... poor
Listened to Cole Gibbons on an interview today (easy double podcast) and he actually seems to have a good bit of self reflection done on what went wrong with the London prep. Admitted his milleage was too high, will build up again but cut it from 260k to about 160- 200 with cross training. Said Ben Connor warned him mileage isn’t everything when he split from him before he got injured, although then did say had a conversation with Phil sessman who re emphasised mileage so I think he maybe needs to stop taking too many opinions on board and learn what works for him. Had some weird competing thing going on with RTJ on milleage I think as he seems quite into other YouTubers.
Quite down rational thought, new persons opinion has entered the brain
But posting a video about an altitude camp titled "something something training for 3:30" is pretty ridiculous.
Struggling with the site, but looks like she got 3:28:54?
The altitude cr*p was clearly just a weird Asics promo (she's even listed as an Asics athlete here!), but fair play to her if she managed it. I imagine there was tears either way, in true Running Channel fashion.
It's not a bad result for Sarah in many ways and I don't mind saying it's a better performance than I expected. Well done to her for a PB.
I still stand by previous comments regarding poor training, and the fact that in many ways, 2 years to take 15 mins off a PB as a full time running influencer is a pretty poor return on investment.
Shame to see Jenny from the Physiology of endurance running podcast DNF at Rotterdam.
Just goes to show even sensible and consistent training doesn't guarantee anything in the marathon. Hopefully she can salvage something from the last few months and run some shorter distances as she's been putting in some big volume.
All love for RTJ. Genuinely love his videos. Have to clarify this, because his army of glazers will attack you for pointing out any ounce of criticism. But, maybe he should rethink this body-breaking high mileage, which has prevented him from competing at his full potential in the last 2 marathons. On the other hand, I'm excited that he has shifted towards the Yamagata ekiden, seems like a really exciting race and should be great for his build back up.
Ben Felton is again closing the gap on Callum Elson. Looking at the race yesterday; Callum with the altitude camp gains and living as a pro athlete whilst Ben has been training up his local carriageway whilst being backed by Sports Direct. Ben will soon be beating them Makou athletes, stay tuned.
5.4km in 18:19 at National Road Relays, that can’t be full effort can it?
That’s not bad for the hilly Sutton Park sufferfest! Think she got the 3rd fastest time on the day
I don’t keep up with everything but I think a couple of videos back she was talking about a 3k in late April being her first race back, so I’d guess this was a bit more of a rust-buster than anything. Time aside, I think if she’s keen to get back out racing that’s probably a good sign- prior to the 2025 death spiral she was racing a lot more frequently and seemed to be in a far better spot, just got way too in her own head post-London IMO.
Standard shtick from Flowy, set up the reasons it won’t happen so when it doesn’t happen he can say I really didn’t expect it to happen anyways but don’t worry because next race it will happen, unless it doesn’t. He’s not going under 2:30 because he’s not fit enough and he’s not fit enough because he thinks he knows how to do this better than his coach. Can’t wait for the spring of speed video series.
No! He assures us he's a realist about his fitness. And he truly believes he can run 2:29 in Boston.
Seriously though, I think he's right to think positive thoughts at this point. It's good to think positive thoughts and have genuine confidence that you can execute the race plan... as long as the race plan is realistic. The problem is he's not thinking positive thoughts; he's thinking delusional thoughts.
If I were him I'd target 2:35 pace and plan to have a fast finish. The last 5mi are ~200' net downhill. Many people's quads are destroyed from earlier downhills and they spike their lactate/HR on Heartbreak Hill, so they can't take advantage of the fast finish (also the race starts at 10am so it can be pretty warm for the last 10k, though it won't be warm this year). That's his fate if he is on pace for 2:29 through 21mi.
Alternatively, he can experience true authenticity by admitting that he overtrained in March and has misunderstood how his workouts relate to race performances ever since he's gotten into sub 2:35 shape. Admit that he was about to make the same mistake again by believing in a 2:29. And then say that the new goal is to get through 21mi on 2:35 pace and try to run the last 5.2mi at 2:29 pace to finish in a high 2:33. That'd be a win that he can carry forward to a fast fall marathon.
The most hilarious reality would be that he reads this thread and the actual thing holding him back is his pride preventing him from taking our advice. The fact is that LRC, despite all its trolling and cynicism, is home to the highest concentration of people who actually love running and will genuinely celebrate and respect anyone's good performance (as long as they're not doping). Embrace us, Eric. Negative split a 2:33 in Boston and then humble yourself before NSM to run a sub 2:30 this Fall.
Ben Felton is again closing the gap on Callum Elson. Looking at the race yesterday; Callum with the altitude camp gains and living as a pro athlete whilst Ben has been training up his local carriageway whilst being backed by Sports Direct. Ben will soon be beating them Makou athletes, stay tuned.
Ben does yearly kenia training camps. No idea who the other guy is.
Standard shtick from Flowy, set up the reasons it won’t happen so when it doesn’t happen he can say I really didn’t expect it to happen anyways but don’t worry because next race it will happen, unless it doesn’t. He’s not going under 2:30 because he’s not fit enough and he’s not fit enough because he thinks he knows how to do this better than his coach. Can’t wait for the spring of speed video series.
No! He assures us he's a realist about his fitness. And he truly believes he can run 2:29 in Boston.
Seriously though, I think he's right to think positive thoughts at this point. It's good to think positive thoughts and have genuine confidence that you can execute the race plan... as long as the race plan is realistic. The problem is he's not thinking positive thoughts; he's thinking delusional thoughts.
If I were him I'd target 2:35 pace and plan to have a fast finish. The last 5mi are ~200' net downhill. Many people's quads are destroyed from earlier downhills and they spike their lactate/HR on Heartbreak Hill, so they can't take advantage of the fast finish (also the race starts at 10am so it can be pretty warm for the last 10k, though it won't be warm this year). That's his fate if he is on pace for 2:29 through 21mi.
Alternatively, he can experience true authenticity by admitting that he overtrained in March and has misunderstood how his workouts relate to race performances ever since he's gotten into sub 2:35 shape. Admit that he was about to make the same mistake again by believing in a 2:29. And then say that the new goal is to get through 21mi on 2:35 pace and try to run the last 5.2mi at 2:29 pace to finish in a high 2:33. That'd be a win that he can carry forward to a fast fall marathon.
The most hilarious reality would be that he reads this thread and the actual thing holding him back is his pride preventing him from taking our advice. The fact is that LRC, despite all its trolling and cynicism, is home to the highest concentration of people who actually love running and will genuinely celebrate and respect anyone's good performance (as long as they're not doping). Embrace us, Eric. Negative split a 2:33 in Boston and then humble yourself before NSM to run a sub 2:30 this Fall.
Floberg is not overtrained. He's poorly trained and his workouts are poorly executed but I don't think he's "overtrained" in the traditional sense
No! He assures us he's a realist about his fitness. And he truly believes he can run 2:29 in Boston.
Seriously though, I think he's right to think positive thoughts at this point. It's good to think positive thoughts and have genuine confidence that you can execute the race plan... as long as the race plan is realistic. The problem is he's not thinking positive thoughts; he's thinking delusional thoughts.
If I were him I'd target 2:35 pace and plan to have a fast finish. The last 5mi are ~200' net downhill. Many people's quads are destroyed from earlier downhills and they spike their lactate/HR on Heartbreak Hill, so they can't take advantage of the fast finish (also the race starts at 10am so it can be pretty warm for the last 10k, though it won't be warm this year). That's his fate if he is on pace for 2:29 through 21mi.
Alternatively, he can experience true authenticity by admitting that he overtrained in March and has misunderstood how his workouts relate to race performances ever since he's gotten into sub 2:35 shape. Admit that he was about to make the same mistake again by believing in a 2:29. And then say that the new goal is to get through 21mi on 2:35 pace and try to run the last 5.2mi at 2:29 pace to finish in a high 2:33. That'd be a win that he can carry forward to a fast fall marathon.
The most hilarious reality would be that he reads this thread and the actual thing holding him back is his pride preventing him from taking our advice. The fact is that LRC, despite all its trolling and cynicism, is home to the highest concentration of people who actually love running and will genuinely celebrate and respect anyone's good performance (as long as they're not doping). Embrace us, Eric. Negative split a 2:33 in Boston and then humble yourself before NSM to run a sub 2:30 this Fall.
Floberg is not overtrained. He's poorly trained and his workouts are poorly executed but I don't think he's "overtrained" in the traditional sense
You're right.
Specifically, I think if you look at his last 6 weeks, he has repeatedly gone too hard in a workout and then forced his next workout before he's ready, resulting in a sloppy / poorly executed workout (except on the treadmill he's usually ok). The next time he's feeling good for a workout, he promptly overdoes it again and the cycle continues.
He's not chronically overtrained and he doesn't have overtraining syndrome. But he's also not doing functional overtraining -> supercompensation properly. He just has a habit of overdoing workouts, both when he's feeling good and when he's not.
One other thing that was slightly odd about Sarah's marathon. Appears to have run in the Superblast 3's.
I get that the trip was paid by ASICS, but one of their racier shoes would surely have been a better choice. Reckon she cost herself a couple of minutes at least by not wearing something lighter and faster.
Okay we have reached new levels of runfluencer age stupidity. Truett Hanes admits to eating between 200-300g of Carbs a day in latest video. To the mother freakin gills.
I don’t think you’re wrong here. But what’s the implication? Why does that make you think he’s dirty?
Jeans in marathons , physique....and associated with the gym bro bare brigade only in running to sell supplements to new runners. They are trying to branch out from gym bro to gym bro running.
I was flicking through YouTube running documentaries and found surrender . I thought I'd give it a watch, but something felt way off. It was a back yard ultra doc , but all the runners were running topless and musclebound. Where were the skinny runners to win this thing .
My Spidey senses were right. Turns out was a Nick Bare documentary, there was Truett and all the other gym bros pretending they were actually ultra running round Nicks farm / ranch. Garbage but fascinating at the same time . Not an actual runner in sight , just Nick and the Gym bros being ultra .....and you too can be like them if you buy the supplements the winner takes on bpn 😂.
Dealers in nonsense that see money, they couldn't give a toss about it and will cheat their way to results to sell supplements like they do in their other "fitness industry" gigs. That's why TH can't be trusted, and any of the other gym bros with a sideline to sell you
Mans ego going through a roof a little. Like he actually thinks he can catch the elites :D upping the easy pace to 4:15 to match his coaches easy pace (now badly injured). Not sure if thats a smartest move. great results lately but he should not get carried away. Might not be sustainable in the long term.
Michael Ottesen is one of the most likable runners on YouTube. He works full time, a family man and still is running in the pro field Boston. Some of these egotistical influencers could learn a thing from him.