The Trials and Tribulations of Running YouTubers

xel wrote:

FOD Runner wrote:

Thanks, he’s offered his time once a month so it’ll hopefully be monthly and we would love to get some guests in along the way, some maybe from the original thread and others that we think will be interesting. In the mean time, I’ll get plenty of other guests on 👍

The subtitles need to stay sadly but I’ll change them from karaoke font 😂

Crazy idea: reach out to Floberg and get him on NSM (with James's help).

Don't downvote me just yet. I also reflexively groan at thought of tainting a good part of running with the bad.

But you can do only so much preaching to the choir before the only way to make a difference is to engage with a new audience, especially one that has a totally different mindset. I honestly think it would be a public service.

Send a polite e-mail saying you think he's the type of runner who stands to benefit, give some examples, wish him luck at Boston, and ask him to consider it for his training post-Boston.

PS: For the record, I was the author of the post by "flailberg" a few pages back. I didn't have my login info at the time. I know no one cares but I don't like hiding behind anonymity.

bruv wrote:

xel wrote:

Crazy idea: reach out to Floberg and get him on NSM (with James's help).

Don't downvote me just yet. I also reflexively groan at thought of tainting a good part of running with the bad.

But you can do only so much preaching to the choir before the only way to make a difference is to engage with a new audience, especially one that has a totally different mindset. I honestly think it would be a public service.

Send a polite e-mail saying you think he's the type of runner who stands to benefit, give some examples, wish him luck at Boston, and ask him to consider it for his training post-Boston.

PS: For the record, I was the author of the post by "flailberg" a few pages back. I didn't have my login info at the time. I know no one cares but I don't like hiding behind anonymity.

Sure, have him on the pod, but I don’t want someone to start hawking the people’s training program when they are already overcharging people for their lack of expertise. Something tells me he’d never try it because his ego wouldn’t be able to stomach being told what to do. He already ignores what his coach says.

jetty b wrote:

good podcast FOD wrote:

If they did this regular, it would turn into the best running podcast in the UK I would imagine. Sirpoc brings a hell of a lot to the table. He's also in a position unlike the influencers, where he has written a highly praised credible running book, seems to be selling fantastically well so I doubt needs to push anything. Very relatable also for a number of reasons, but he's also well into his 40s now and I would imagine a good inspiration to guys like me around the same age.

I don't know what people make from self published books, but it may have even sold 5 figues or close in terms of sales and will sell for years, because it's just a fantastic book with a lot great things included.

I definitely enjoyed that podcast and they seem like the most normal people you will find.

Andy is quite open and I'm sure he will tell us if it'll be a regular thing perhaps even here. He's always pretty open which is why I think people like him.

Sirpoc is just a normal guy. I met him down at Battersea at the British masters 5k champs they spoke about and couldn't have been nicer. Didn't want to even talk about himself was just asking me how my face had gone.

But he's also a fantastic training brain and miles ahead of the curve when it comes to training over all the hobby joggers making content. If fod can make it regular with him it's probably gold. Fod knows how all this works. Not that his channel isn't already pretty good but this could be a fork to enter the podcast market which is pretty big. Personally I think all the best pods have two regulars who are the glue and then guests from time to time.

Beyond wrote:

gossip monger wrote:

His latest video came up in my feed earlier, so real good content. Wants to practice as much race day stuff as he can for a big workout: kit, shoes, gels - refuses to do a proper carb load beforehand for unclear reasons.

Spend a good few minutes at the start talking about being the person you want future you to be, if you 'tap out'in sessions you'll tap out in races and that's not who he wants to be. Fast forward to the recovery before his last rep - no injury, not particularly fatigued looking and he's decided to cut the distance short, I might call that tapping out

Not sure how Mo has even come to the conclusion that he can run a 2:30 in the first place. His PBs 5k-Half indicate more like 2:35, hes not getting in a lot of volume, and his last attempt at a 2:30 in Chicago resulted in a big blowup. Hes drinking whatever same crazy influencer Koolaid as Floberg

Ozzi Batt-Man wrote:

Soft geezer wrote:

Must be the same Koolaid that Russ Cook aka "hardest geezer" is drinking - initial goal was sub 2:30 before he did an instagram reel to address all the 'haters' before readjusting to 2:35. Nothing on his strava indicates he is any where near that shape.

Strange to see Danny Mills of all people fighting his corner in the comments - implying that you can't underestimate a tough mentality (this might be true), and somehow making it comparable to his son who runs 200km+ weeks and is obsessive over the 1%s, he of all people should know you also can't skip the training and 'tough out' a 2:30..

Yet his adoring fans still lap it up, and no questions will be asked when we inevitably runs ~2:50 or so.

Wow, you’re not wrong about his Strava. I do not follow him, but looking at his recent activities, all his easy run paces are very slow for a 2:30–2:35 marathoner. He has also managed to spend over three hours running not even 27 km (albeit hilly). My Strava feed includes people aiming for similar times who are running for 2.5 hours and covering 38–40 km, and not on completely flat routes either.

Ozzi Batt-Man wrote:

Soft geezer wrote:

Must be the same Koolaid that Russ Cook aka "hardest geezer" is drinking - initial goal was sub 2:30 before he did an instagram reel to address all the 'haters' before readjusting to 2:35. Nothing on his strava indicates he is any where near that shape.

Strange to see Danny Mills of all people fighting his corner in the comments - implying that you can't underestimate a tough mentality (this might be true), and somehow making it comparable to his son who runs 200km+ weeks and is obsessive over the 1%s, he of all people should know you also can't skip the training and 'tough out' a 2:30..

Yet his adoring fans still lap it up, and no questions will be asked when we inevitably runs ~2:50 or so.

Wow, you’re not wrong about his Strava. I do not follow him, but looking at his recent activities, all his easy run paces are very slow for a 2:30–2:35 marathoner. He has also managed to spend over three hours running not even 27 km (albeit hilly). My Strava feed includes people aiming for similar times who are running for 2.5 hours and covering 38–40 km, and not on completely flat routes either.