Hey man, he has the GOAT honorable mention Andy Murray on his side, so what left to argue???
And the GOAT’s former coach, which Harambe wasn’t even aware of. lol.
Now that he knows, I’m sure he’ll say Murray became his coach to catch him doping or that they parted ways because Djokovic couldn’t dope with him around or some other ridiculous claim. Lol
What? None of that nonsense. Murray accusing him of doping is all the evidence I need. It’s credible.
Hey man, he has the GOAT honorable mention Andy Murray on his side, so what left to argue???
And the GOAT’s former coach, which Harambe wasn’t even aware of. lol.
Now that he knows, I’m sure he’ll say Murray became his coach to catch him doping or that they parted ways because Djokovic couldn’t dope with him around or some other ridiculous claim. Lol
That’s a great point. The guy who accused Djokovic of doping joined his team a mere nine months ago so he could, what, taint his own legacy, lol?🤡🤡🤦♂️
And the GOAT’s former coach, which Harambe wasn’t even aware of. lol.
Now that he knows, I’m sure he’ll say Murray became his coach to catch him doping or that they parted ways because Djokovic couldn’t dope with him around or some other ridiculous claim. Lol
What? None of that nonsense. Murray accusing him of doping is all the evidence I need. It’s credible.
Do you have proof (a foreign concept for gorillas apparently) that Djokovic’s former coach accused him of doping?
Fed fan, but 2017-early 2018 was a a curious change for Fed’s trajectory.
Let’s face it, we’re all Federer fans.
But we also understand greatness when we see it. Amazing there are only three players over age 29 in the world’s top 40 currently and only one over age 34. Sheer GOATness.
And the GOAT’s former coach, which Harambe wasn’t even aware of. lol.
Now that he knows, I’m sure he’ll say Murray became his coach to catch him doping or that they parted ways because Djokovic couldn’t dope with him around or some other ridiculous claim. Lol
That’s a great point. The guy who accused Djokovic of doping joined his team a mere nine months ago so he could, what, taint his own legacy, lol?🤡🤡🤦♂️
Reads like Harambe logic.
Gorilla logic says that Murray is so anti-doping that he wanted to be a part of a doper’s team. lol
Like you said, for a guy who has been a champion of anti-doping his entire career, it’s a great look for his anti-doping legacy.
Fed fan, but 2017-early 2018 was a a curious change for Fed’s trajectory.
Let’s face it, we’re all Federer fans.
But we also understand greatness when we see it. Amazing there are only three players over age 29 in the world’s top 40 currently and only one over age 34. Sheer GOATness.
True. I’m intelligent enough to admit that despite his greatness and elegant form that Fed is not the GOAT. That moniker can only belong to Djokovic. Logic, reason and facts bear this out.
Some people are very determined to ignore logic, reason and facts and say Djoker is not the GOAT. They seem to have ulterior motives. Curious.
1) the doping accusation is corrorborated by respected tour pros. Think about running. We’d give that weight, no?
Djokovic's GOAT status is corroborated by respected tour pros. You walked right into that one. lol
An accusation made without any proof, even if repeated by experts, doesn't magically make it true or grant it "weight". Its still an unsubstantiated accusation.
Harambe wrote:
2) Half of Chokervics wins came against Kyrgios and the like. That’s a weak era.
BS. As already stated, Kyrgios doesn't define an era. Playing Nadal 60 times is the most prolific head-to-head in tennis history, is against another GOAT contender AND he's got the edge. Fed, 50 times - the other contender for GOAT status and again, he's got the edge. Half a dozen factually based data have been presented which demonstrate Djokovic's career as taking place during the strongest era in tennis history.
Harambe wrote:
3) Chokervic suffered to an “unexplained illness” ...
Something which is "unexplained" cannot be used as an explanation. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction.
1-3 are all unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, everything you said is subjective - its all about you. Its tied to your identity/ego and emotional in nature. This explains your inability to be swayed by facts and data and your emotional reactions. You hate Djokovic because he has done something which contradicts your identity and we all know what that is. You got jabbed, he didn't. You call him "Chokervic" to make you feel better about yourself. It demonstrates its a problem you have not a chink in a debate over who's the GOAT.
1) the doping accusation is corrorborated by respected tour pros. Think about running. We’d give that weight, no?
Djokovic's GOAT status is corroborated by respected tour pros. You walked right into that one. lol
An accusation made without any proof, even if repeated by experts, doesn't magically make it true or grant it "weight". Its still an unsubstantiated accusation.
Harambe wrote:
2) Half of Chokervics wins came against Kyrgios and the like. That’s a weak era.
BS. As already stated, Kyrgios doesn't define an era. Playing Nadal 60 times is the most prolific head-to-head in tennis history, is against another GOAT contender AND he's got the edge. Fed, 50 times - the other contender for GOAT status and again, he's got the edge. Half a dozen factually based data have been presented which demonstrate Djokovic's career as taking place during the strongest era in tennis history.
Harambe wrote:
3) Chokervic suffered to an “unexplained illness” ...
Something which is "unexplained" cannot be used as an explanation. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction.
1-3 are all unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, everything you said is subjective - it’s all about you. It’s tied to your identity/ego and emotional in nature. This explains your inability to be swayed by facts and data and your emotional reactions. You hate Djokovic because he has done something which contradicts your identity and we all know what that is. You got jabbed, he didn't. You call him "Chokervic" to make you feel better about yourself. It demonstrates it’s a problem you have not a chink in a debate over who's the GOAT.
Now that’s a novella worth reading. lol
Nonsense about “subjective opinion” forthcoming. :)
1) the doping accusation is corrorborated by respected tour pros. Think about running. We’d give that weight, no?
Djokovic's GOAT status is corroborated by respected tour pros. You walked right into that one. lol
An accusation made without any proof, even if repeated by experts, doesn't magically make it true or grant it "weight". Its still an unsubstantiated accusation.
Harambe wrote:
2) Half of Chokervics wins came against Kyrgios and the like. That’s a weak era.
BS. As already stated, Kyrgios doesn't define an era. Playing Nadal 60 times is the most prolific head-to-head in tennis history, is against another GOAT contender AND he's got the edge. Fed, 50 times - the other contender for GOAT status and again, he's got the edge. Half a dozen factually based data have been presented which demonstrate Djokovic's career as taking place during the strongest era in tennis history.
Harambe wrote:
3) Chokervic suffered to an “unexplained illness” ...
Something which is "unexplained" cannot be used as an explanation. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction.
1-3 are all unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, everything you said is subjective - its all about you. Its tied to your identity/ego and emotional in nature. This explains your inability to be swayed by facts and data and your emotional reactions. You hate Djokovic because he has done something which contradicts your identity and we all know what that is. You got jabbed, he didn't. You call him "Chokervic" to make you feel better about yourself. It demonstrates its a problem you have not a chink in a debate over who's the GOAT.
1) the doping accusation is corrorborated by respected tour pros. Think about running. We’d give that weight, no?
Djokovic's GOAT status is corroborated by respected tour pros. You walked right into that one. lol
An accusation made without any proof, even if repeated by experts, doesn't magically make it true or grant it "weight". Its still an unsubstantiated accusation.
Harambe wrote:
2) Half of Chokervics wins came against Kyrgios and the like. That’s a weak era.
BS. As already stated, Kyrgios doesn't define an era. Playing Nadal 60 times is the most prolific head-to-head in tennis history, is against another GOAT contender AND he's got the edge. Fed, 50 times - the other contender for GOAT status and again, he's got the edge. Half a dozen factually based data have been presented which demonstrate Djokovic's career as taking place during the strongest era in tennis history.
Harambe wrote:
3) Chokervic suffered to an “unexplained illness” ...
Something which is "unexplained" cannot be used as an explanation. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction.
1-3 are all unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, everything you said is subjective - its all about you. Its tied to your identity/ego and emotional in nature. This explains your inability to be swayed by facts and data and your emotional reactions. You hate Djokovic because he has done something which contradicts your identity and we all know what that is. You got jabbed, he didn't. You call him "Chokervic" to make you feel better about yourself. It demonstrates its a problem you have not a chink in a debate over who's the GOAT.
Chokervic had the luxury of playing against Fed and Nadal in the latter part of their career.
Then he cleaned up in a legendarily weak era against Kyrgios and crew.
He made the most of his hand, but it’s not a GOAT gauntlet.
The unexplained illness is obviously long COVID lol. He’s been forthcoming about all his other sicknesses in his career but THIS one, with all the hallmarks of long COVID, he is shy about.
I simply cannot believe on letsrun, where we’ve seen doping scandal after doping scandal, you guys are trotting out “with no positive test or no proof he’s not a doper!!!!!”
You guys either don’t run, or don’t care, but if you follow the sport at all - and why else would you post here - you’d understand the standards of suspicion and how often those suspicions are validated.
I laugh every time I see you all tear your hair out because I don’t agree with your subjective opinion. It’s like 3rd graders fighting over Superman vs Batman on the playground. But you guys are ostensibly adults??
I simply cannot believe on letsrun, where we’ve seen doping scandal after doping scandal, you guys are trotting out “with no positive test or no proof he’s not a doper!!!!!”
You guys either don’t run, or don’t care, but if you follow the sport at all - and why else would you post here - you’d understand the standards of suspicion and how often those suspicions are validated.
Why did Chokervics coach so stridently defend him? Oh yeah, because they feel the heat.
Literally nobody is *actually* saying Djokovic didn’t dope. They are simply saying you have no evidence besides hearsay and everyone else is under the same level of suspicion, including Federer with his “second wind.”
Djokovic's GOAT status is corroborated by respected tour pros. You walked right into that one. lol
An accusation made without any proof, even if repeated by experts, doesn't magically make it true or grant it "weight". Its still an unsubstantiated accusation.
BS. As already stated, Kyrgios doesn't define an era. Playing Nadal 60 times is the most prolific head-to-head in tennis history, is against another GOAT contender AND he's got the edge. Fed, 50 times - the other contender for GOAT status and again, he's got the edge. Half a dozen factually based data have been presented which demonstrate Djokovic's career as taking place during the strongest era in tennis history.
Something which is "unexplained" cannot be used as an explanation. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction.
1-3 are all unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, everything you said is subjective - its all about you. Its tied to your identity/ego and emotional in nature. This explains your inability to be swayed by facts and data and your emotional reactions. You hate Djokovic because he has done something which contradicts your identity and we all know what that is. You got jabbed, he didn't. You call him "Chokervic" to make you feel better about yourself. It demonstrates its a problem you have not a chink in a debate over who's the GOAT.
Chokervic had the luxury of playing against Fed and Nadal in the latter part of their career.
Nadal and Djokovic are literally not even a full year apart in age 🙄
Yet one of them is still playing and ranked #6 in the world with a pretty recent Olympic gold. The unvaccinated one.
Djokovic's GOAT status is corroborated by respected tour pros. You walked right into that one. lol
An accusation made without any proof, even if repeated by experts, doesn't magically make it true or grant it "weight". Its still an unsubstantiated accusation.
BS. As already stated, Kyrgios doesn't define an era. Playing Nadal 60 times is the most prolific head-to-head in tennis history, is against another GOAT contender AND he's got the edge. Fed, 50 times - the other contender for GOAT status and again, he's got the edge. Half a dozen factually based data have been presented which demonstrate Djokovic's career as taking place during the strongest era in tennis history.
Something which is "unexplained" cannot be used as an explanation. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction.
1-3 are all unsubstantiated accusations. I agree, everything you said is subjective - it’s all about you. It’s tied to your identity/ego and emotional in nature. This explains your inability to be swayed by facts and data and your emotional reactions. You hate Djokovic because he has done something which contradicts your identity and we all know what that is. You got jabbed, he didn't. You call him "Chokervic" to make you feel better about yourself. It demonstrates it’s a problem you have not a chink in a debate over who's the GOAT.
The unexplained illness is obviously long COVID lol. He’s been forthcoming about all his other sicknesses in his career but THIS one, with all the hallmarks of long COVID, he is shy about.
Obviously, lmao. No positive Covid test, no abnormal immunological or inflammatory biomarkers, no vestibular abnormalities, no POTS/dysautonomia, no extreme post-exertional malaise. Still beating most of the top ranked players, including #3 Zverev, making grand slam semis, and winning Olympic medals, but not quite at the level he used to be at, especially against proven dopers like the Italian. It’s almost as if though…. he's aging!!!??? Holy crap, stop the presses… it’s revelatory.
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