Let's talk Ohio HS XC

Thanks for this! I'm a little surprised SNL isn't a bigger adjustment - that course is smoking fast. And I agree that elite competition sometimes outweighs a few hills, multiple tight turns, or longer grass. Interesting stuff...

Good luck to the Gales in the upcoming weeks!

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I'm going to need to register here even though I told myself I never would. It usually takes me about 6 to 10 tries before my post is accepted because I need to try OhioT&F, Ohio T&F, sometimes with a "." at the end, sometimes with a space. Even if I use the same device it will not always accept my name because "someone else posted using the same name from a different device" 😡

Does anyone know of another website/forum with Ohio XC & T&F info?

This site is a cesspool & I prefer not to register here. I never registered on Yappi because it doesn't seem to have much action. I check Ohio football scores there on Friday night and peruse the XC/T&F forum occasionally but that's about it. I don't think the defunct jjhuddle had much for XC or T&F. Any others?

Going to be interesting to see how Hilliard Davidson's girls stack up against DuPont Manual from Kentucky at the Trinity Invite this week. DuPont handily beat Mason at their home meet last weekend. Should tell us a lot about those 3 teams.

"Coach, what is the context of those percentages?
For instance, what is the "base" course that you're going (+) or (-) from?"

The current "base" is the average course... a carryover from the
Milesplit ranking days. The new MMOC ran close to average on our last
visit. I am working toward Fortress as the basis, but need more
results from days that are at least workable.

As it turns out, the %ages are (neglecting decimal points) pretty close to
"seconds" since 16:40 is 1000 seconds. Use of percentages
allows estimates of the impact for the kids running further back in the pack.

Yes, SNL is very, very fast, but less so if kids get bottlenecked and
have to break rhythm a couple times before heading out to the farm
loop.

I would need to understand the calculation better before commenting on
the "speed ratings".

The best answer I know for the "site" question is to
make this one better. As more people want to discuss in a productive way,
perhaps the knuckleheads, trash-talkers and trolls will get bored and go
elsewhere...

What makes you think it is a cesspool? You can always ignore posts that you disagree with no?

Just because you can step over the cesspool doesn't mean there isn't a cesspool there.

Posts like your suggest that one should never have a problem with anything that they can just ignore. I mean, maybe if someone kills another person I shouldn't care, so long as the victim isn't me. Maybe I should just ignore? What a selfish perspective.

I'm with coach. Too many HS kids talking shz make this thread a bit unbearable at times.

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2023 MSU Spartan Invitational, 09/15/2023 : : my.race|result

2023 MSU Spartan Invitational, 09/15/2023, East Lansing

Link:my.raceresult.com/260726/

1st. Thomas McMahon: 15:05.6

2nd: Sam Ricchiuti: 15:06

I did not see McMahon winning this over Ricchiuti. Thoughts?

Huge congrats to McMahon. I will say that I’m a little skeptical that he did this now, it seems early. Like wouldn’t you wanna reach this form in 6 weeks? He’s gonna have to sustain this all the way until Obetz which isn’t easy. Maybe the times don’t tell the full story either, Ricchuiti could have had a hard week running wise, and McMahon capitalized? Who knows. Whatever the case was it’s a great preformance by both runners. Central Ohio is getting absolutely ridiculous, between Gabelman, Ricchuiti, Smith, and now McMahon?? Those are the 4 best runners in the state. Add in Rudraraju, Day, Guerrera? How many guys from the other regions will place top 10 at states? Central Ohio is gonna have its own state meet at Pickerington a week before the actual state meet

Central Ohio just gets deeper and more insane. Great run by these two. The #3 and #4 runners from Michigan were Footlocker national finalists last year and are the top two guys who'll compete for a state title this fall. Unreal.

And don't forget... Ryan Smith easily ran away from McMahon at Obetz and Pick N, beating him by 20+ seconds both times.

Whoever finishes top 10 in region 3 will be top 15-20 at state.

Yes. Should've just copied your post.

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Central OH invite. Kilbourne rolls at full strength. No real competition.

Carmel 1st

Dublin Coffman 2nd

Mason OH at the Richard Spring invite in Illinois

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14:42 for Kimmel?? Holy... right behind Conway. Wonder how that course typically runs. Seems really, really fast. Ohio boys up front...

Snyder 15:02 (He and Cernansky will battle at Obetz)

Sebaugh 15:10 (Medina has a solid 1-2)

Schroff 15:21 (15:54 last week at Tiffin)

Radruraju 15:22 (is he hurt? didnt run at Tiffin)

Bugner 15:23 (repeat... Medina strong up front)

Did Westerville North not race their varsity runners at the Friendship Invitational? Did they race somewhere else?

It's a pretty fast course but is an honest 5K

Nathan Mountain ran 14:46 there in 2020. Dustin Horter won in 2017 in 15:02, I think. 2017, IIRC, wet race but conditions were OK. Arjun Jha won the year before Horter in 15:21 in a wet & rainy race.

Regardless, Kimmell's time is outstanding & legit. He's a good one.

Also, this weather that we've been having is great. A bit lower temps & low humidity is good for fast times.