This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
I’ve said nothing of vaccine comparison. I simply stated your estimation was way off per the data.
Also, many consider death a career altering event, yes?
I’ve explained the adjustments I made and my goal with the numbers. We are interested in different levels of accuracy and upper/lower bounds. That’s ok
"Harvard researchers looked at data on more than 4 million children ages 5 to 17 and found that in the second year of the COVID-19 pandemic, the fraction of kids who showed up at an emergency room for mental health issues, including depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and suicidality, increased significantly compared to the year before the pandemic started."
"The increase was especially notable among teenage girls who experienced a 22 percent jump in ER visits for mental health challenges."
But, wait, it’s just a nurse PhD, not a real doctor…
But, wait, it’s just a YouTube grift…
But, wait, clearly the data is opaque…
It’s funny Russian roulette was brought up here a couple days ago, because, the Australian government data clearly shows that’s exactly what it was if you took the “vaccine” as a non-high risk person. And, as I suggested, 2600bro’s math was way off.
Note the rates of myocarditis, pericarditis, and chest pain. Not a good look. Thankful for the, finally, transparent W Australian government surveillance though.
Djokovic is a genius and a man of honor.
Just desperate to ignore the recent data from Australia and Denmark that is devastating to the official safe and effective narrative.
But, wait, it’s just a nurse PhD, not a real doctor…
But, wait, it’s just a YouTube grift…
But, wait, clearly the data is opaque…
It’s funny Russian roulette was brought up here a couple days ago, because, the Australian government data clearly shows that’s exactly what it was if you took the “vaccine” as a non-high risk person. And, as I suggested, 2600bro’s math was way off.
Note the rates of myocarditis, pericarditis, and chest pain. Not a good look. Thankful for the, finally, transparent W Australian government surveillance though.
Djokovic is a genius and a man of honor.
Here is yet another study you definitely need to ignore.
The COVID vaccines developed by the likes of Pfizer and Moderna were produced in batches that were sent separately to different regions of the world and, acc...
I’ve explained the adjustments I made and my goal with the numbers. We are interested in different levels of accuracy and upper/lower bounds. That’s ok
I’m still intrigued by your take that omicron was not a significant factor in ending the pandemic.
You never defended that position. Care to take another shot at it?
I didn't say that. I said was a significant factor only because most people had protection from vaccines that improved the breadth and durability of Omicron infection driven immunity.
"Harvard researchers looked at data on more than 4 million children ages 5 to 17 and found that in the second year of the COVID-19 pandemic, the fraction of kids who showed up at an emergency room for mental health issues, including depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and suicidality, increased significantly compared to the year before the pandemic started."
"The increase was especially notable among teenage girls who experienced a 22 percent jump in ER visits for mental health challenges."
ONS excess deaths datahttps://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalespr...
I’m still intrigued by your take that omicron was not a significant factor in ending the pandemic.
You never defended that position. Care to take another shot at it?
I didn't say that. I said was a significant factor only because most people had protection from vaccines that improved the breadth and durability of Omicron infection driven immunity.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
I didn't say that. I said was a significant factor only because most people had protection from vaccines that improved the breadth and durability of Omicron infection driven immunity.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
I didn't say that. I said was a significant factor only because most people had protection from vaccines that improved the breadth and durability of Omicron infection driven immunity.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
70% of the world is vaccinated. That’s why Omicron was a contributor. Omicron infection alone would not have “ended the pandemic,” if not for mass prior vaccination. That’s Harambes point.
I didn't say that. I said was a significant factor only because most people had protection from vaccines that improved the breadth and durability of Omicron infection driven immunity.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
Could you really not tell from the context that I was agreeing that Omicron contributed to population immunity (with the conditional about the vaccines)?
Anyway we clearly agree on most points, maybe not on the necessity of good vaccines for ending the pandemic, but I'm comfortable being alone and correct there.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
Omicron gave immunity; the vaccine does not
Not correct. The vaccine coupled with the omicron variant effectively ended the pandemic.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
Could you really not tell from the context that I was agreeing that Omicron contributed to population immunity (with the conditional about the vaccines)?
Anyway we clearly agree on most points, maybe not on the necessity of good vaccines for ending the pandemic, but I'm comfortable being alone and correct there.
Actually you answered affirmative to my question: “Do you disagree that Omicron was a significant factor in ending the pandemic?” Granted, in addition to your affirmative answer you did mention because of the vaccine…
Since greater immunity was gained from omicron plus vaccine compared to vaccine alone or omicron infection alone, you could surmise correctly that omicron did play a significant role in ending the pandemic.
Your assertion could be correct if we were discussing the US or Europe. However, we have to remember this was a pandemic.
It is quite short-sighted to believe omicron did not have a significant impact on ending the pandemic.
70% of the world is vaccinated. That’s why Omicron was a contributor. Omicron infection alone would not have “ended the pandemic,” if not for mass prior vaccination. That’s Harambes point.
Lemme tell ya - its a great feeling to have robust durable unsullied protection like the type I gained from a mild 2 day omicron illness in early 2022 - and ZERO "vaccines". No worrying about ending up like Bob Wachter. Lotta good his 4 doses of mRNA goop did him. Dreadfully sick from Covid and passing out in the shower. Hurts to look at him.
7) The neurosurgeons stitched the back of my scalp, while an ENT-plastics chief resident did the intricate stitching of my forehead. Luckily, at my age a few scars don't bother me much, and I believe my wife likes me for reasons other than my previously seamless brow. (12/22) pic.twitter.com/l9qTzUn50a
Study shows fourth dose of Pfizer COVID vaccine wanes faster than third - 24MAY2022
A study from Israel published today in BMJ shows that the effectiveness of a fourth dose of Pfizer-BioNTech's mRNA COVID vaccine waned faster than a third dose in adults ages 60 and older.
The study took place over 10 weeks beginning in January 2022, and compared outcomes of 69,623 adults with three doses of Pfizer with 27,876 adults who received four doses. The study was conducted when Omicron was the dominant strain in Israel.
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Could you really not tell from the context that I was agreeing that Omicron contributed to population immunity (with the conditional about the vaccines)?
Anyway we clearly agree on most points, maybe not on the necessity of good vaccines for ending the pandemic, but I'm comfortable being alone and correct there.
70% of the world is vaccinated. That’s why Omicron was a contributor. Omicron infection alone would not have “ended the pandemic,” if not for mass prior vaccination. That’s Harambes point.
Lemme tell ya - its a great feeling to have robust durable unsullied protection like the type I gained from a mild 2 day omicron illness in early 2022 - and ZERO "vaccines". No worrying about ending up like Bob Wachter. Lotta good his 4 doses of mRNA goop did him. Dreadfully sick from Covid and passing out in the shower. Hurts to look at him.
Study shows fourth dose of Pfizer COVID vaccine wanes faster than third - 24MAY2022
A study from Israel published today in BMJ shows that the effectiveness of a fourth dose of Pfizer-BioNTech's mRNA COVID vaccine waned faster than a third dose in adults ages 60 and older.
The study took place over 10 weeks beginning in January 2022, and compared outcomes of 69,623 adults with three doses of Pfizer with 27,876 adults who received four doses. The study was conducted when Omicron was the dominant strain in Israel.
Gleefully posting injuries unrelated to the vaccine.
Nothing but desperation and malicious brain-rot. Tragic, Dan, just tragic.
Lemme tell ya - its a great feeling to have robust durable unsullied protection like the type I gained from a mild 2 day omicron illness in early 2022 - and ZERO "vaccines". No worrying about ending up like Bob Wachter. Lotta good his 4 doses of mRNA goop did him. Dreadfully sick from Covid and passing out in the shower. Hurts to look at him.
Study shows fourth dose of Pfizer COVID vaccine wanes faster than third - 24MAY2022
A study from Israel published today in BMJ shows that the effectiveness of a fourth dose of Pfizer-BioNTech's mRNA COVID vaccine waned faster than a third dose in adults ages 60 and older.
The study took place over 10 weeks beginning in January 2022, and compared outcomes of 69,623 adults with three doses of Pfizer with 27,876 adults who received four doses. The study was conducted when Omicron was the dominant strain in Israel.
Gleefully posting injuries unrelated to the vaccine.
Nothing but desperation and malicious brain-rot. Tragic, Dan, just tragic.
Enjoying when old people fall in the shower to own the libs?
Over and over on this thread, I've said, "Show us the data."
In discussing excess heart deaths, Dr. John Campbell expresses a similar frustration with the lack of data from the US on heart deaths. I've clipped the video to start at 9:07 when he comments, "The United States, for example, is rubbish, absolute rubbish, at collecting federal data."
Nearly 100,000 more deaths involving heart conditions and stroke than usual since pandemic beganhttps://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/news-from-the-bhf/news-arch...
