This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Read an interesting piece that explained why conspiracy believers are becoming more prevalent despite knowledge becoming more abundant.
Conspiracy believers are scared of things that they don't understand. And they like it to be explained to them in a manner that makes them feel not stupid for not knowing stuff. Conspiracy stuff makes them feel smart and above others. It hits all the feels.
It is much easier to watch a 14 minute youtube video that tells you what to think than to educate yourself on a topic by perhaps obtaining a degree.
This is sadly true.
There is also the component that when times are confusing, simple answers are reassuring. "It's a conspiracy against people like me" is simpler than the complexities of a changing world.
Read an interesting piece that explained why conspiracy believers are becoming more prevalent despite knowledge becoming more abundant.
Conspiracy believers are scared of things that they don't understand. And they like it to be explained to them in a manner that makes them feel not stupid for not knowing stuff. Conspiracy stuff makes them feel smart and above others. It hits all the feels.
It is much easier to watch a 14 minute youtube video that tells you what to think than to educate yourself on a topic by perhaps obtaining a degree.
This is sadly true.
There is also the component that when times are confusing, simple answers are reassuring. "It's a conspiracy against people like me" is simpler than the complexities of a changing world.
Exactly. That point was touched on. Uncertainty produces anxiety. A conspiracy theory soothes that. Complex and not understood becomes simplistic with conspiracy. Covid produced plenty of anxiety so it was ripe for conspiracy.
People also have anxiety of changing demographics in the US. The solution of course is seized on by the right wingers. Immigrants are coming to rape you and steal from you. "Only I can fix it for you".
I know that using reported deaths and non-age-adjusted data is like saying you should move to aircraft carrier when you’re 85 instead of a nursing home because people on aircraft carriers have much lower rates of cancer than those in nursing homes.
How about Israel and Palestine? Same place. 71.15% and 1,329 vs. 38.34% and 1,087.
Picked US but all others at random.
I don't think crying excess deaths and age adjustments can change this stark picture...the jab does not make you safer
The vax mob mafia are a pathetic and confused gang. They scream about data that is not age adjusted, yet the illustrious CDC says 6-month old babies should be injected with the experimental mRNA goop. The overwhelming majority of Americans now see through the charade, only 17% having taken the latest "booster".
After 1213 days of Covid madness and 934 days of "vaccine" availability, their plight would be hysterical if it wasn't so sad. Many highly educated people among them, their brains fried by relentless propaganda. Such a pity.
I can't help but think something is terribly wrong. I am NOT the only unvaxxed person to experience this. About 4 weeks ago, 3 multi-vaxxed people close to me came down with awful colds. Heavily congested and coughing relentlessly. They suffered for about 15 days.
However, unvaxxed me remained healthy and well.
Collect enough anecdotes and they ain't anecdotes no more.
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I've seen some bad parenting, but this is a new low. Allegedly, Jada Pinkett Smith introduced her children to psychedelics. This is a perfect example of how ...
I do love when all the people who say, "Trust the science! Give your kid the Covid jab! The science says so," are the same people who are like, "Woo, woo, crystals! The crystals will heal you, they have healing properties. And also, I like plant medicine. Which plants? I don't care, I just go into my front yard and take a bite out of a tree."
How about Israel and Palestine? Same place. 71.15% and 1,329 vs. 38.34% and 1,087.
Picked US but all others at random.
I don't think crying excess deaths and age adjustments can change this stark picture...the jab does not make you safer
The vax mob mafia are a pathetic and confused gang. They scream about data that is not age adjusted, yet the illustrious CDC says 6-month old babies should be injected with the experimental mRNA goop. The overwhelming majority of Americans now see through the charade, only 17% having taken the latest "booster".
After 1213 days of Covid madness and 934 days of "vaccine" availability, their plight would be hysterical if it wasn't so sad. Many highly educated people among them, their brains fried by relentless propaganda. Such a pity.
The numbers are overwhelming. The highly vaxxed nations suffered far more Covid deaths than the lowly vaxxed. This causes the pro vaxxers to cry out about age and excess deaths - yet they don't even look at that data. Purely an emotional response.
For 2 1/2 years, we've been told the vaccine is "safe and effective." Now, that daily vaccinations have dropped so low that the CDC no longer provides a chart to show them, reports of vaccine damage are beginning to surface from the medical establishment. Excerpts follow with bold added.
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“You see one or two patients and you wonder if it’s a coincidence,” Dr. Anne Louise Oaklander, a neurologist and researcher at Harvard Medical School, told Science. “But by the time you’ve seen 10, 20 [patients],” she said, “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”
Symptoms of long vax can mimic those of long COVID: headaches, intense fatigue and abnormal heart rate and blood pressure. Patients are also telling their doctors about tingling, electric shock–like sensations, burning pain and blood circulation issues that appear weeks, days or even hours after receiving the COVID-19 shot. Other patients have symptoms resembling those of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, or POTS, including weakness, swings in heart rate and blood pressure, fatigue and brain fog.
Doctors “may want to take seriously the concept [of] a vaccine side effect.” - Peter Marks, FDA
“I’m persuaded that there’s something going on” with these side effects," - Dr. Harlan Krumholz, a cardiologist at Yale University.
“As researchers study links between COVID-19 vaccines and uncommon side effects, they have found a slight increase in the number of people who have experienced postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) following vaccination,” the National Institutes of Health stated in a December 2022 report.
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For those of us with an open mind it has been obvious for a couple of years that vaccine adverse events are occuring. Since the CDC refuses to provide data showing newly diagnosed cases of conditions linked to the vaccine by week by vaccination status, I will continue to assume the CDC is withholding this information because it would NOT support their allegation (not fact, allegation) that the vaccine is safe and effective.
For 2 1/2 years, we've been told the vaccine is "safe and effective." Now, that daily vaccinations have dropped so low that the CDC no longer provides a chart to show them, reports of vaccine damage are beginning to surface from the medical establishment. Excerpts follow with bold added.
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“You see one or two patients and you wonder if it’s a coincidence,” Dr. Anne Louise Oaklander, a neurologist and researcher at Harvard Medical School, told Science. “But by the time you’ve seen 10, 20 [patients],” she said, “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”
Symptoms of long vax can mimic those of long COVID: headaches, intense fatigue and abnormal heart rate and blood pressure. Patients are also telling their doctors about tingling, electric shock–like sensations, burning pain and blood circulation issues that appear weeks, days or even hours after receiving the COVID-19 shot. Other patients have symptoms resembling those of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, or POTS, including weakness, swings in heart rate and blood pressure, fatigue and brain fog.
Doctors “may want to take seriously the concept [of] a vaccine side effect.” - Peter Marks, FDA
“I’m persuaded that there’s something going on” with these side effects," - Dr. Harlan Krumholz, a cardiologist at Yale University.
“As researchers study links between COVID-19 vaccines and uncommon side effects, they have found a slight increase in the number of people who have experienced postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) following vaccination,” the National Institutes of Health stated in a December 2022 report.
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For those of us with an open mind it has been obvious for a couple of years that vaccine adverse events are occuring. Since the CDC refuses to provide data showing newly diagnosed cases of conditions linked to the vaccine by week by vaccination status, I will continue to assume the CDC is withholding this information because it would NOT support their allegation (not fact, allegation) that the vaccine is safe and effective.
Follow the link at the bottom this article and scroll through a hundred or so comments that readers have made. You'll find case after case of people reporting adverse events. I think adverse events have been far more common than the CDC will admit. Here's a few...
I have a family member who had a 'mini' stroke at the age of 25 days after getting a booster.
My friend took the vaccine an hour later was in hospital because her heart rate shot through the roof. Then she got covid, and they told her to take the second shot. Again she wound up in the hospital, high blood pressure and breathing problems which still continue. Despite the health problems occurring immediately after both shots, the doctor named her a “long covid” case, and she was enrolled in studies about long covid.
I am a medical provider. Within twenty minutes after the first moderna vaccine I experienced tingling and lost feeling in my hands and feet and could not breathe. I did not want to admit that it was happening so took several benedryl (for the first time in my life as a mature adult) and suffered for about an hour. Was pressured to get the second vaccine and same thing happened. Now have symptoms of POTS and random anxiety. Two, active, healthy colleagues felt similarly.
My perfectly healthy boss died 3 days post-vaccination. Several of my residents developed rashes, shingles, one resident lost the use of his legs the very next day. I also found one resident dead in his bed 2 days after taking it.
The CDC would have us believe that all of these people area lying or they are wrong. I ask instead, "Where is their financial incentive?" I have read thousands of similar reports! These commenters have no financial incentive to make things up. The CDC and the medical establishment have massive financial incentives to misrepresent the facts.
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Fastboy will be very busy during the next pandemic as a pharmacist. DanM come visit me lol!!!!
Would you fill a paxlovid prescription for DanM if he was crying and begging for it?
Every Paxlovid story I have seen is about multi-vaxxed people who became sick. The mRNA goop did not prevent severe illness and Paxlovid did not prevent them from getting sick again after they stopped taking it.
Please provide a link to a story about an unvaxxed person who took Paxlovid.
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For 2 1/2 years, we've been told the vaccine is "safe and effective." Now, that daily vaccinations have dropped so low that the CDC no longer provides a chart to show them, reports of vaccine damage are beginning to surface from the medical establishment. Excerpts follow with bold added.
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“You see one or two patients and you wonder if it’s a coincidence,” Dr. Anne Louise Oaklander, a neurologist and researcher at Harvard Medical School, told Science. “But by the time you’ve seen 10, 20 [patients],” she said, “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”
Symptoms of long vax can mimic those of long COVID: headaches, intense fatigue and abnormal heart rate and blood pressure. Patients are also telling their doctors about tingling, electric shock–like sensations, burning pain and blood circulation issues that appear weeks, days or even hours after receiving the COVID-19 shot. Other patients have symptoms resembling those of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, or POTS, including weakness, swings in heart rate and blood pressure, fatigue and brain fog.
Doctors “may want to take seriously the concept [of] a vaccine side effect.” - Peter Marks, FDA
“I’m persuaded that there’s something going on” with these side effects," - Dr. Harlan Krumholz, a cardiologist at Yale University.
“As researchers study links between COVID-19 vaccines and uncommon side effects, they have found a slight increase in the number of people who have experienced postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) following vaccination,” the National Institutes of Health stated in a December 2022 report.
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For those of us with an open mind it has been obvious for a couple of years that vaccine adverse events are occuring. Since the CDC refuses to provide data showing newly diagnosed cases of conditions linked to the vaccine by week by vaccination status, I will continue to assume the CDC is withholding this information because it would NOT support their allegation (not fact, allegation) that the vaccine is safe and effective.
Doctors are the worst at turning anecdotes and confirmation bias into somber warnings. They are not trained as scientists and it shows. They also LOVE attention. This explains the above.
Let's stick with the real studies.
The reason the vaccine rates have dropped so slow is because...... they work and everyone with a brain has completed the full course.
