This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Your entire argument is attempting the convince people that the CDC has “missed stuff” because you desperately want it to be true. You have no evidence. All you can try to do is sow doubt and hope that people blindly agree. Highly unscientific.
The only doubt is the many-infected antivaxxers facing a lifetime of autoimmune, cardiac, and other health risks. For what? Ignorance and politics. Tragic.
Autoimmune disease suggested by ONE paper without corroboration. Is that how you do science? When does the cardiac stuff start? Covid was so 2021 for the unvaccinated.
I get it, you are a neophyte in this sciency world who cannot uninject himself or think critically with a degree of skepticism. Understood.
As a I said before, researchers and doctors are figuring out that long haul Covid and CFS are the same disease clinically. This book right here is for you and people like you specifically and just how both the CDC and Fauci, separately, mishandled that disease and how placing your faith in these Demi-Gods of science is the real tragedy. Your comments and replies are utterly meaningless until you learn what you don’t know.
Oh good point. CFS is also a fun risk of unvaxxed COVID infection. Looking great for the antivaxxers right now! You guys are serious big brains. But hey, it’s worth it for the unsupported, evidence free, contrarian skepticism you get to brag to people about.
As for me, I’m skeptical that the Earth revolves around the Sun. NASA could be hiding something 🤔 - you never know!!
Autoimmune disease suggested by ONE paper without corroboration. Is that how you do science? When does the cardiac stuff start? Covid was so 2021 for the unvaccinated.
Homie asking for more than one piece of supporting evidence? I pray you never get this intellectually rigorous with your own beliefs. Existential meltdown incoming. P.S the cardiac events HAVE started - there are lots of studies showing excess cardiac deaths among the infected. Of course, vaccination pre-infection is shown to mitigate this. Overall the risk is not huge. I merely point it out because it’s the exact opposite of what the antivaxxers falsely babble about and it’s fun to see them get upset when you bring it up.
Ray Lewis? Wtf? Wait, did his son die of “idiopathic cardiomyopathy” too?
They are famous athletes with questionable legacies due to personal choices
Sarcasm lost on you too, eh? Much is.
Let me get this straight. An elite tennis player, the best who’s ever played his sport, who, appallingly, failed to die or get hospitalized or develop long Covid or develop idiopathic cardiomyopathy or develop autoimmune disease and is playing at the same level he always has, despite, wisely at his age/risk level, not getting a dubious injection is in the same category as an alleged rapist and an alleged accomplice to a murder, both of whom were not the greatest to ever play their respective sports? Got it…
They are famous athletes with questionable legacies due to personal choices
Sarcasm lost on you too, eh? Much is.
Let me get this straight. An elite tennis player, the best who’s ever played his sport, who, appallingly, failed to die or get hospitalized or develop long Covid or develop idiopathic cardiomyopathy or develop autoimmune disease and is playing at the same level he always has, despite, wisely at his age/risk level, not getting a dubious injection is in the same category as an alleged rapist and an alleged accomplice to a murder, both of whom were not the greatest to ever play their respective sports? Got it…
Well that’s your opinion.
Theres no doubt his legacy is forever tarnished in the same way Kobe and Lewis’ are.
History will judge him if the autoimmunity doesn’t get him first. Or maybe his pharmacist will poison him.
Let me get this straight. An elite tennis player, the best who’s ever played his sport, who, appallingly, failed to die or get hospitalized or develop long Covid or develop idiopathic cardiomyopathy or develop autoimmune disease and is playing at the same level he always has, despite, wisely at his age/risk level, not getting a dubious injection is in the same category as an alleged rapist and an alleged accomplice to a murder, both of whom were not the greatest to ever play their respective sports? Got it…
Well that’s your opinion.
Theres no doubt his legacy is forever tarnished in the same way Kobe and Lewis’ are.
History will judge him if the autoimmunity doesn’t get him first. Or maybe his pharmacist will poison him.
Actually, saying his legacy is forever tarnished is your *opinion*. Much to your chagrin, history will remember him as the greatest who ever played the game, who, but for some Machiavellian bureaucrats, would’ve won even more titles. But he’s still going to have the most ever. So you picked a terrible analogy. History will be very kind to Djokovic.
Theres no doubt his legacy is forever tarnished in the same way Kobe and Lewis’ are.
History will judge him if the autoimmunity doesn’t get him first. Or maybe his pharmacist will poison him.
Actually, saying his legacy is forever tarnished is your *opinion*. Much to your chagrin, history will remember him as the greatest who ever played the game, who, but for some Machiavellian bureaucrats, would’ve won even more titles. But he’s still going to have the most ever. So you picked a terrible analogy. History will be very kind to Djokovic.
💉”The VACCINES are causing the LARGEST BLOOD CLOTS we’ve ever seen” [Dr. McCullough]
“My experience with these blood clots are they’re enormously resistant to blood thinners, Wuhan spike protein is inside the blood clots & it’s folding forming what’s called amyloid structures” pic.twitter.com/kh3McXig3A
His legacy is tarnished for knowing there is such a thing as natural immunity.
These vaxx believers are not too solid in their thinking
My heros are those pushing the world forward with new ideas and inventions to make us happier, healthier, and more productive - not some guy that prances around in shorts hitting a fuzzy ball.
A new report citing U.S. government sources says three scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China were among the first people to have been infected by COVID-19. The Substack article, co-authored by Matt Taibbi, Michael Schellenberger and Alex Gutenag, says the findings are "significant new evidence" that "strengthens the case that the SARS-CoV-2 virus accidentally escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology." "According to multiple U.S. government officials interviewed as part of a lengthy investigation by Public and Racket, the first people infected by the virus, ‘patients zero,’ included Ben Hu, a researcher who led the WIV’s ‘gain-of-function' research on SARS-like coronaviruses, which increases the infectiousness of viruses," the article reads. "Sources within the U.S. government say that three of the earliest people to become infected with SARS-CoV-2 were Ben Hu, Yu Ping, and Yan Zhu. All were members of the Wuhan lab suspected to have leaked the pandemic virus," it adds.