Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

These right wing crackers know Trump is a racist. Fake outrage. #IloveJamele

Pookie Washington wrote:

I'm a little confused. What's the problem with Jamele Hill saying Trump is a White Supremacist? That's not an opinion, it's a fact!!! Do I really have to go down the list?

Housing discrimination lawsuits, Central Park Five, BIRTHER, BIRTHER, BIRTHER, Mexicans are murderers and rapists, Judge can't be fair because he is Mexican, Charlottesville, very fine people marching with the Klan....did I mention he is a BIRTHER? What does he have to do say I hate ni$gers? Donald Trump is a racist......no doubt about it.

I love ESPN.

DiscoGary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

And you seem to misunderstand how capitalism actually works in practice.

The scenario you present only plays out when there is tremendous competition and transparent pricing. Otherwise, nobody wants to be the first one to lower prices.

Like I said, it's on a case by case basis. Just lowering taxes or reducing regulation has no net effect on consumer prices unless other conditions dictate a price war. And when was the last time you saw an actual price war?

Government policies on these matters tend to be very blunt instruments that rarely have the desired effect. If your goal is to reduce consumer prices then pro-competition and anti-trust policies are better suited to the task.

Any free market is a constant price war.

I'm guessing you made a B in high school economics and never went to college or held a job in a large company. Study up a bit on how prices are actually set in the real world.

Start your course of study with the term "efficient markets". The first thing you will find is that real markets are rarely efficient.

Lower taxes can lower prices in some cases. In other cases, lower taxes actually increase consumer prices because companies use the extra capital to buy out (or drive out) their competition.

DiscoGary wrote:.

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...You don't seem to understand the role that competition plays in free markets. If the cost of business goes down across the board for all companies, those who do not lower their prices will lose market share to those who do. So in general, yes, lowering taxes and removing onerous regulations will lower costs to end customers.

The real myth is that companies can over charge their customers without consequence.

You argument is like a Jr. High physics student arguing that a piece of lint will fall at the same speed as a rock ... it's true only in a vacuum but not in the real world environment (ie, with air).

Likewise, your argument assumes that perfect free markets exist, or that they are even remotely close to being perfect. Like wind resistance you have to consider many markets have only a small number of suppliers, high barriers to entry, etc. Despite your assertions above you seem to not have grasped the reality of markets.

Fat hurts wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Any free market is a constant price war.

I'm guessing you made a B in high school economics and never went to college or held a job in a large company. Study up a bit on how prices are actually set in the real world.

Start your course of study with the term "efficient markets". The first thing you will find is that real markets are rarely efficient.

Lower taxes can lower prices in some cases. In other cases, lower taxes actually increase consumer prices because companies use the extra capital to buy out (or drive out) their competition.

Mr. Disco has indeed worked for a major company, GE. He was one of their glorified CT scanner mechanics. He's a LEGEND in Lake Co., IL.

FREE MARKET!!

Yup, you speak the truth. Most overall ratings are still below 40 though. Crazy polarity.

Evangelicals are head over heels in love with Trump. Your average Apple Bee southern and midwestern whites love him too. He's a TV character for a TV generation. People who believe they and Trump speak "frankly" because they cant understand nuance or anything complicated. He'll do well when any threat comes from the outside. Be it Hurricaines, terrorists, N Korea, etc.

sensual sandra wrote:

Baldy wrote:

You argument is like a Jr. High physics student arguing that a piece of lint will fall at the same speed as a rock ... it's true only in a vacuum but not in the real world environment (ie, with air).

Likewise, your argument assumes that perfect free markets exist, or that they are even remotely close to being perfect. Like wind resistance you have to consider many markets have only a small number of suppliers, high barriers to entry, etc. Despite your assertions above you seem to not have grasped the reality of markets.

FREE MARKET!!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article173059891.html

It's a good thing Trump is getting rid of all those needless regulations...

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Also ask Putin, who bitch slapped him

Wait... You mean the same one that called Trump his wife?

Have I offended the Dear Leader?

HgH wrote:

Evangelicals are head over heels in love with Trump.

I wouldn't say that's true. I'd say some evangelicals like and support Trump.

Many evangelical churches are really just Republican churches that pay a little bit of lip service to Christian ideals. These churches will support anyone with an R by his name.

But there are many prominent evangelical leaders who see Trump for what he is and have been against his anti-Christian ways from the start.

This president has no ideology.

There really is nothing he believes on other than himself.

He lined up with the Republicans because he thought his rhetoric would win them over, and it did.

Now he's perfectly fine going against them if it makes him more popular.

He really doesn't care about building a wall, but he does like talking about it, though.

Apparently he made a deal with the Democrats to push back wall building but give more funding to boarder security in exchange for making DACA the law by legislation.

That was last night.

Then this morning he tweets that the deal wasn't done.

What's up with this guy?

foo wrote:

sensual sandra wrote:

FREE MARKET!!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article173059891.html

It's a good thing Trump is getting rid of all those needless regulations...

Regulations have nothing to do with it, this is negligence on the part of the owners/administrators pure and simple.

The rest of the worlds populace that I'm referring to (and I believe you) is Europe. They have become accustomed to government handouts to the Nth degree. Many of them are now teetering on bankruptcy...........does Greece come to mind? They have also done a great job with their immigration policies. And their taxes are so low everyone wants to move there. And as one who has worked in the healthcare field my entire life, don't try and lecture me on healthcare. You'll be bring a knife to a gunfight. Want a cardiac bypass? Try and get one in Canada, the UK or maybe Africa if you think their system is so much better.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Want a cardiac bypass? Try and get one in Canada, the UK or maybe Africa if you think their system is so much better.

20,000 coronary bypass operations are done in the UK each year.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Want a cardiac bypass? Try and get one in Canada, the UK or maybe Africa if you think their system is so much better.

20,000 coronary bypass operations are done in the UK each year.

Thats great. Sounds like they need to exercise more, eat a low fat diet and quit smoking so much.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Jeff Wigand wrote:

20,000 coronary bypass operations are done in the UK each year.

Thats great. Sounds like they need to exercise more, eat a low fat diet and quit smoking so much.

It also sounds like there isn't any problem performing those operations.

Jeff Wigand wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Thats great. Sounds like they need to exercise more, eat a low fat diet and quit smoking so much.

It also sounds like there isn't any problem performing those operations.

Well that depends. Depends on the numbers performed, relative to the number that should be performed. Now given that the number of bypasses per capita performed in the UK is a fraction of that seen in the US, it appears that perhaps many that really need them don't get them. Or perhaps that the only option for them is a less costly alternative, IE coronary angioplasty (dubious long term benefit) or cardiac medication that just delay's the inevitable. Now thats not to say that CABG is a panacea, its not. But in combination with diet, smoking cessation and exercise its quite effective.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

foo wrote:

It's a good thing Trump is getting rid of all those needless regulations...

Regulations have nothing to do with it, this is negligence on the part of the owners/administrators pure and simple.

Regulations do have a lot to do with it. Without regulations it's very hard to go into court and prosecute for violating the legal standard of care.

TRUMP CONCEDES .......NO WALL!!

Fat hurts wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Regulations have nothing to do with it, this is negligence on the part of the owners/administrators pure and simple.

Regulations do have a lot to do with it. Without regulations it's very hard to go into court and prosecute for violating the legal standard of care.

My point is that the regs are already in place, both at the federal and state level. Whatever Trump is going to do, it will have no impact on those types of regs. And even if he relaxed the federal regs that govern the environment of care in a SNF, which is unlikely, the state regs are typically more stringent anyway. So the original premise of the post is false.